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Old 01-22-2014, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by West Peterson
Sounds like a case where the messenger was being shot.
The reason I would like to know if this is an OEM exact replacement is because if it is, I'll keep it for future "judging." Otherwise, I'll sell it back to the store for $20.
The OEM batteries were Vartas a company owned by Johnson Controls, after sitting on lots for years some of these batteries died and were replaced with Mopar batteries. This is probably a first or second generation replacement. The Varta is not available in North America, although the identical looking battery with different labeling can be found.
The original batteries came with handles, I still have one on the shelf from my 2005 car.

The original is a VARTA available in Europe; with the following specs: 74 Ah, 680A EN (700A SAE), RC 150min. Mopar part # 48-70, Cat. # 48. From the VARTA catalog this makes it the Blue Dynamic model, #574 012 068.
This battery looks exactly like the Interstate Mega-Tron Plus #MTP-H6
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Depends on what color a 05098850AA (cover) is. Mine is red. The parts book lists a BA048690EX for the replacement battery but I do not know what the original was (can be a difference between OEM and SR).

Apparently the factory is concerned about the potential for a short hence the cover. It is odd to see this late a battery without side terminals.

Is a bit moot since the owner's manual specifically refers to "Maintenance-Free Battery" and doubt that AGM is considered that.

The bible is usually an assembly manual but have not seen one for the Crossfire. Karman may have one.
 
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Old 01-22-2014, 03:27 PM
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I've posted this on the Technical site, but for those following this thread, I've reproduced the VARTA tag. For anyone who has one of the original looking batteries but with a different tag, this is an exact reproduction. I did this for those interested in having an exact correct-looking engine compartment for future restoration in an original-judged class.

Since this site won't let me post a photo more than once, you'll have to go to this thread, and see post #156.

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...tml#post777751
 

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Actually there is a way but you have to speak geek.

 
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Old 01-23-2014, 08:07 AM
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I always skipped that class...
 
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Well, stick around and keep reading padgett's posts and you'll have a graduate degree in geek, as well as a complete acronym dictionary.
BTW: I used to work for a little outfit in Dayton called NCR, did 40 years with them.
Now I work for an even smaller Dayton outfit : Teradata
 

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Back in the '90s I had an NCR 3150 laptop (probably still have) and that was a nice little machine. Once of the first with a color display and removable hard drives.
 
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Originally Posted by ala_xfire
Well, stick around and keep reading padgett's posts and you'll have a graduate degree in geek, as well as a complete acronym dictionary.
BTW: I used to work for a little outfit in Dayton called NCR, did 40 years with them.
Now I work for an even smaller Dayton outfit : Teradata
Mind you Padgetts pic of the label appears to be from a battery in Gullivers travels. I guess it would be OK on a CinemaScope screen.
I do not bother to answer Padgetts posts some times as I do not get the acronym and its meaning. I much prefer straight talk, old fashioned WYSIWYG. LOL

 
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... and you can thank NCR for today's electric starters in automobiles. In 1912, Engineers Charles Kettering and Edward Deeds started their own company (Delco) using the technology they developed for cash register motors, and transferred it the automobile self-starter. Until that time, electric and steam cars were much more common on the road than the gas-engined car.
 
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Yep, most don't know that DELCO is for Dayton ELectric COmpany.
 
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errr I believe that is Dayton Engineering Laboratory Co. later merged with Remy Electric of Anderson, Indiana. As a GMI student back in the last century (before it became the Kettering Institute) I was sponsored by Delco-Remy and spent the off six weeks in Anderson. I rented a house next to the Acre and used to park cars on the back side of the lot.

SCCCI used to have autocrosses there.
 
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errr - I believe you are correct on that.

Delco Electronics Corporation was the automotive electronics design and manufacturing subsidiary of General Motors based in Kokomo, Indiana. The name Delco came from the Dayton Engineering Laboratories Co., founded in Dayton, Ohio by Charles Kettering and Edward A. Deeds in 1909.[1] Delco was responsible for several innovations in automobile electric systems, including the first reliable battery ignition system and the first practical automobile self starter.
 

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