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Old 06-21-2006, 02:04 PM
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Has anyone else noticed that even though you have the ESP button turned off , that your car still feels like its working??

Just for kicks was thinking trying to pull the fuse for ESP (looks to be 17/18). Has anyone tried pulling the fuses and seeing what happens?

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yea even though you push that little button the traction control never fully disengages. it just lets you push it a little harder before getting in the way but it's still there to end the fun.
 
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Originally Posted by BluSRT69
yea even though you push that little button the traction control never fully disengages. it just lets you push it a little harder before getting in the way but it's still there to end the fun.
Have you ever tried to pull fuses 17 & 18? These are for the ESP.

Seemed last time at the track even though I'd push the ESP button off - could leave the line higher but would start to spin and engine would bog.

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nope never tried the fuses.
 
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That button turns off the traction control, not the ESP. ESP stays on all the time.
 
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Old 06-24-2006, 11:20 PM
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That button turns off the traction control, not the ESP. ESP stays on all the time.
Maybe I'm getting confused then. After pushing the button (light goes on the IP), you can still feel the spark/tires being adjusted if they start to break loose. Is there anyway around this?

Trying to leave the starting line while hazing the tires, yet its cutting back the torque due to tire slip. Any ideas?

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Default Re: ESP really off, when button pushed

Originally Posted by SRT6 Coupe
Have you ever tried to pull fuses 17 & 18? These are for the ESP.

Seemed last time at the track even though I'd push the ESP button off - could leave the line higher but would start to spin and engine would bog.

Thanks!
yeah i was thinking about doing that a couple weeks ago. i'm sure i'll do it some time so i'll post back up on what happens.
 
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Originally Posted by SRT6 Coupe
Have you ever tried to pull fuses 17 & 18? These are for the ESP.

Seemed last time at the track even though I'd push the ESP button off - could leave the line higher but would start to spin and engine would bog.

Thanks!
You'll have to start pulling fuses. The purpose of that switch is to allow some wheel spin so you can free the car from mud/snow. ESP will always kick in and spoil the fun if it detects the car is starting to slide sideways.
 
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Default Re: ESP really off, when button pushed

The ESP is not completely off when "the button is pushed." On my mercedes there is a way to COMPLETELY turn of the esp... It is called "dyno mode." Besides turning off the esp it also disables the pseudo differential and ABS. (This is not common knowledge among any dealers).
 
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Here's how I did it in my mercedes:

1. To start, the key must be removed from the ignition.
2. Insert the key and turn to position 1.
3. Immediately press and hold the trip odometer reset button until the instrument cluster beeps. There is no visual message, only an audio beep. Be patient, this takes around 40 seconds.
4. Press the lower menu button (it looks like two sheets of paper, the one with the writing in the background behind the blank one)
5. Press the up arrow button on the steering wheel.
6. Press the "+" sign to disable the Traction System (turn "ON" test mode).
7. Start the engine, the traction system is now disabled.

To return to normal, remove the key and restart the engine. The traction control warning should no longer be in the cluster. If it is, shut the engine off and remove the key again. Then insert the key and turn to position 1. Note that the DYNO test screen is displayed immediately. Push the "-" button to enable the traction system (turn "OFF" test mode).

NOTE: When you first turn the key to position 1, ESP DYNO Test screen pops up, then after 1-2 seconds it may disappear while faults are displayed. If you weren't fast enough in pressing the "-" button before codes were displayed, just wait until all codes cycle by, then the ESP DYNO Test screen will reappear.
 
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Old 06-27-2006, 10:59 AM
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We've known about that process for a little while. It was also published in Motor Trend when they did the review of the SLK55.
What I'd like to know is the meaning of fully modded on a C320. Renntech blower? Suspension mods? What is it?
 
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Default Re: ESP really off, when button pushed

Originally Posted by feets
We've known about that process for a little while. It was also published in Motor Trend when they did the review of the SLK55. What I'd like to know is the meaning of fully modded on a C320. Renntech blower? Suspension mods? What is it?
"fully modded" means i was to lazy to type.
Its pretty exaggerated though...
Factory Xenon w/ eurospec rainbow signal bulbs
Yellow HI Fog lights
Clear corners
Tinted tail lights
Underdrive pulleys
Amg sway bars
Red brake calipers w brembo rotors
Porterfield brake pads
H&R rear spacers
Custom silver Instrument cluster insert
Custom JL audio sub enclosure w/ alpine amp
...and during snowboard season, a BIG @SS roof box =)

 
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Old 06-28-2006, 10:36 AM
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Default Re: ESP really off, when button pushed

Sounds like you've got more accessories than performance mods. Shouldn't that be Fully Accessorized?
 
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Default Re: ESP really off, when button pushed

did i mention my curb feelers?
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Old 06-29-2006, 05:50 PM
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Default Re: ESP really off, when button pushed

Sorry, but I am a die hard gearhead. I think of mods as performance mods instead of appearance goodies.
I sometimes forget that others aren't as deep into it as I am. It's bad enough that I've now got my own machine shop at home.

The usual tinker toy is my '65 Plymouth.

 
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