So I'm trying to sell my SRT. In my on-line ad I mention that it's all AMG. Some yahoo e-mailed accusing me of fraud & that anyone who knew about AMG would know straight away that a crossfire is no AMG. I remember a discussion here about some of the specs. Could someone refresh my memory as to what MBZ model lent its parts to us? Many thanks!

 

I believe that it uses MANY parts from the old SLK320 MB setup.

And YES, it does have a hand-built AMG 3.2 in the SRT model.

Good luck with the jerk you are dealing with.

 

This was his latest e-mail to me:
"The engine is not hand built by AMG it's just sh*t from Dodge."

 

The vast majority of the motor in the SRT-6 is the same as our M112 Kompressor engine. This was found in the SLK32 and C32 AMG.

However, there is one obvious difference: the camshafts. That is the main reason behind the horsepower disparity between the C32/SLK32 and the SRT-6.

 

If you all want to personally tell him what an ignorant SOB he is (The more the merrier I always say! )... you can send him an e-mail to:
Craig Hamilton [craighmltn@yahoo.com]
Please be my guest. He's had nothing but harassing things to say.

 

The M-112 supercharged hand built engine in the SRT6 has AMG stamped into the super charger. Simply pull the plastic cover off and take a picture for the advertisement.

Most of the suspension and drive line is AMG as well. The vehicle was built in the Karmann plant so it is 100% Mercedes built using mostly Mercedes parts with some sprinkles of Chrysler for fun.

You could also take a picture of the engine bay and then find a SLK32 AMG engine bay and put them side-by-side. This will cure any 'fraud' claims.

Good luck!

 

See this article from the August 2004 edition of Car and Driver and this article from the September 2004 edition of Motor Trend, both of which make it quite clear that the SRT6 engine is the same hand-built AMG version used in the SLK32 AMG and C32 AMG. Then tell the bozo to learn how to read before he continues harassing people who are telling the truth.

 

Ignorance is not always BLISS, sometimes it's militant. Don't worry about it. Ignore him. You arent' going to sell that car to anyone that isnt' looking for one in the first place. Obvioulsy, anyone "looking" for an SRT-6 "SHOULD" already know what it is. He's probably just a pissed off BMW 3 Series owner that got his doors blown off by an "AMG" Crossfire.

 

Sent the links to (craighmltn@yahoo.com) him. I told him that after he takes his foot out of his mouth I'll be better able to understand his apology for acusing me of fraud. Many many thanks for the info. I knew I could count on you guys!

Again feel free to e-mail him as to what a putz he is to:
craighmltn@yahoo.com

You all made my day! Thanks, Laura.

 

Done. Some people need to learn a little humility when they so aggressively just don't know what they are talking about.

 

Many people contest the "claim" made by DCX that the camshafts were changed. Several magazines have noted identical performance between the SLK32 and the SRT-6, which wouldn't be possible if the SRT-6 were indeed detuned to the claimed 320 hp. My brother, a Master Mechanic for Mercedes Benz AMG, says that it was in fact a marketing move by Daimler-Benz to keep people from ignoring the SLK32 and buying the much cheaper SRT-6 for the same performance. Without tearing my heads apart to measure the camshafts himself, he says everything between my SRT-6's drivetrain and the SLK32's he repairs at work appears to be identical. Take it as you will.

 

Unfortunately you just end up with some trolls wanting to stir up trouble... just take comfort in the fact that you know what you're talking about and he's just a jackas*.

 

This may well be true - I wasn't trying to stir up trouble at all! In fact, stock for stock (generally), the SRT-6 autos fare better than ours (C32) in the 1/4 mile (even factoring in the weight differences).
I based my post on communications that many have had with Schrick - they seem to claim that the cams are different.
Anyway, moot point - I'm a big fan of the SRT-6 also - it's AMG all the way - just looks different on the outside!

 

I don't think he was accusing you of the trouble. He was referring to the guy responding to my on-line ad who accused me of fraud because I mentioned the SRT is AMG under the hood.

 

This is correct - sorry for any confusion boohooramblers!

 

The SRT6 looks better and costs less. It's kind of funny when you look at these pictures of this 2004 Mercedes-Benz SLK32 AMG.


http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...superSpotlight=

 

I Agree, it's Just Crazy!
& the Speedo only goes to 180, how 'bout that!

SF

 

I COMPLETELY AGREE! I can't see why anyone would cough up $10,000-$15,000 more for an older car that is basically the same mechanically and has the style and visual passion of a second generation Ford Taurus...

It just goes to show that people will pay more for what they see as a more desirable badge. It's just like generic Grocery Store Peanut Butter. It's all made by Jif, but you will pay more for the lable.

It also goes to show that TRUE auto enthusiasts will find the better car for the better deal. We all know that if the Crossfire was badged as a Mercedes, it would have sold 3 times as well for a 25% higher MSRP and no cash incentives and discounts. People are funny creatures aren't they. Perception is Reality to most people that refuse to look outside their "box". If everyone else says it and believes it, it must be true... RIGHT? Yeah Right...

I bet the SRT-6 will be worth alot more in 30 years than the SLK...

 

-- CHRYSLER CROSSFIRE SRT-6 M112 is a V-6

SLK32 AMG 2001- 2004 3.2L M112 V6 264 kW (354 hp)

- Vehicle type: front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 2-passenger, 3-door coupe

- Price as tested: $45,695

- Price and option breakdown: base Chrysler Crossfire SRT-6 (includes $875 freight), $45,695

- Major standard accessories: power windows, seats, and locks; remote locking; A/C; cruise control; telescoping steering wheel; rear defroster

- Sound system: Chrysler AM-FM radio/CD player, 6 speakers

-- ENGINE
Type: supercharged and intercooled V-6, aluminum block and heads
Bore x stroke: 3.54 x 3.31 in, 89.9 x 84.0mm
Displacement: 195 cu in, 3,199cc
Compression ratio: 9.0:1
Fuel-delivery system: port injection
Supercharger: IHI, Lysholm helical type
Maximum boost pressure: 14.5 psi
Valve gear: chain-driven single overhead cams, 3 valves per cylinder, hydraulic lifters
Power (SAE net): 330 bhp @ 6,100 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 310 lb-ft @ 3,500 rpm
Redline: 6,000 rpm

-- DRIVETRAIN
Transmission: 5-speed automatic with manumatic shifting
Final-drive ratio: 3.07:1
Gear, Ratio, Mph/1000 rpm, Max test speed
I, 3.60, 6.9, 41 mph (6,000 rpm)
II, 2.19, 11.4, 68 mph (6,000 rpm)
III, 1.41, 17.7, 106 mph (6,000 rpm)
IV, 1.00, 24.8, 149 mph (6,000 rpm)
V, 0.83, 29.9, 154 mph (5,150 rpm)

-- DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase: 94.5 in
Track, front/rear: 58.8/59.1 in
Length/width/height: 159.8/69.5/51.5 in
Ground clearance: 4.9 in
Drag area, Cd (0.37) x frontal area (20.6 sq ft, est): 7.62 sq ft
Curb weight: 3,220 lb
Weight distribution, F/R: 55.3/44.7%
Curb weight per horsepower: 9.8 lb
Fuel capacity: 15.9 gal

-- CHASSIS/BODY
Type: unit construction
Body material: welded steel stampings

-- INTERIOR
SAE volume, front seat: 48 cu ft
luggage: 8 cu ft
Front-seat adjustments: fore-and-aft, seatback angle; driver only: front height, rear height
Restraint systems: manual 3-point belts, driver and passenger front and side airbags

-- SUSPENSION
Front: ind, unequal-length control arms, coil springs, anti-roll bar
Rear: ind; 3 lateral links, 1 diagonal link, and 1 toe-control link per side; coil springs; anti-roll bar

-- STEERING
Type: recirculating ball with hydraulic power assist
Steering ratio: 16.7:1
Turns lock-to-lock: 3.0
Turning circle curb-to-curb: 32.2 ft

-- BRAKES
Type: hydraulic with vacuum power assist and anti-lock control
Front: 13.0 x 1.3-in vented disc
Rear: 11.8 x 0.9-in vented disc

-- WHEELS AND TIRES
Wheel size: F: 7.5 x 18 in, R: 9.0 x 19 in
Wheel type: cast aluminum
Tires: Michelin Pilot Sport PS2; F: 225/40ZR-18 92Y, R: 255/35ZR-19 96Y
Test inflation pressures, F/R: 36/36 psi
Spare: none

 

I have movement in one side of my Drag Arm linkage. Chrsler parts more expensive so I'm looking for same from a Merc. Any ideas which exact Merc Model will have the same Drag Arm as my XF 2006 Convertable?