Ok, I might be badgering a lil, but bashing, NO!

 

BlUEMDsrt6 -

Perhaps you miss read my post.

I do not make or sell any intake systems (or other product for that matter).

Therefore you did not get my panties in a twist so no apology is needed. Perhaps you should send BDJ a PM or Email so he can answer your questions, concerns and pricing about his product.

I can see how, if you thought I was selling this intake system, there would be a miss-understanding

Good luck with whatever intake upgrade you should decide upon.

 

Theres a lots of good info/insights people are comming up with here.

BLUEMDsrt6, theres nothing wrong with you asking questions trying to figure out which intake is right for you.

Heres my opinion, which isnt worth much...

First off, filter placement. The ideal location of the filters would be in front of the radiator support just behind the bumper/grille area. Thats where the air would be coldest and most dense, not to mention the ram air effect. So long as water intake isnt going to be an issue(which it doesnt appear to be), i have seen great results on every car ranging from vettes to turbo 240's, etc running the filters in this location.

Second is the volume of air you can get in the engine. The BDJs huge dual 3" pipes are the epitome of this. As long as the supercharger is capable of sucking in the additional air (which it is) then you have that angle covered.

There is also the question of turbulence some people have brought up. Keep in mind the s/c pulls the air in from the y-pipe not the other way around. In my book, this is even more of a non issue considering no matter how smooth you get the air to the s/c it becomes pretty darn turbulent from then on as s/c compresses the air and creates boost.

Another thing to consider is material used. Aluminum is the cheapest, lightest, easiest to work with, etc available for an intake. But it heats up. In all honesty id like to have dual 3" pipes made from plastic. But until i find some perfectly prebent 3" plastic tubes this idea goes out the window. The simple answer to this delima is thermal wrap. I honestly didnt expect it to work as well as it did on Brians car but after he drove 20min then popped his hood and the y-pipe was cool to the touch i was a believer. As far as how it looks asthetically....thats a personal opinion.

Hypothetically the best intake would encompass all the above. It would pull in cold air from behind the bumper, conduct as little heat as possible, and be generous in size. Most of the current intakes lack in one dept what they make up in another. Both can be thermal wrapped, so thats a moot point. The Needswings intake pulls in cooler air but has a restriction at the radiator support passthrough. At a standstill the BDJ's draws warmer air. But who cares about performance at a standstill? As soon as you take off air is flowing through the engine bay, not to mention the fan helps too. The BDJs pulls in warmer air, yes...but not only do both tubes remain 3" all the way to the throttle body, you also have 2 of them. And with the factory passthroughs cleared out of their stock hardware...its literally a straight shot for air to pass through from the grille, dont believe me look at his pics in his other thread. Thats why its my personal pick.

We have tossed the idea around of trimming the core support for more clearance, hell you could even buy a different size radiator and possibly have clearance for each tube to reach around the sides into the bumper/grille area without altering the diamater. But thats getting a little extreme for a street car.

A word on those accordian bellows...they are a great design as far as compensating for engine movement, but they are far from optimal in the performance dept. The repeated angles of the design dont allow air to move smoothly through them. On LS1 engines (z28 and TA's) switching from the factory bellow to a smooth coupler is worth 5 rwhp every time. Not a monumental gain but while were talking intakes i figured this was an appropriate topic to address.

 

My bad on hitting you (BrianBrave) with my many questions and worthless insight, I'll aim elsewhere. Would the air boxes with direct port to outside engine bay air help in your opinion 240M3SRT? That way it could cut down on the hot air being sucked up by the intakes.

 

Have you popped your hood lately? That's how it is from the factory.

 

I thought the factory system was sucking air in front (side by side with) of the radiator? "Ignorance is bliss", LOL. But seriously, I thought it was.

 

This topic seems to have many heated discussions flying back and forth. I am interested in the results due to having a similar set up to BDJ's but with plastic 3" tubes (less heat being transfered) an SL55 pipe with filters in the same location as his. I too do not like the single tube looks. For that matter, my preference would be to keep the dual tubes even though it may produce a few HP's less. My car runs better with this set up but I don't have numbers to prove it. I can tell you that it is far easier to break the rear tires loose and butt dyno says. Can't wait until the results are in.

Steve

 

What kind of 3" plastic tubing did you use? Pics?

 

Spectre. They sell all the fittings and different degree of bends. This one shows the stock pipe before the swap to the SL55.

Steve

Sorry - picture did not attach. I will try again.

 

 

I've been watching all these threads on air intake mods since I bought my '04 coupe and now my srt6 coupe it's seems to me that just add the sl55 Y and mod the front intake at front grill a little larger. K&Ns would do me just fine ! Everything else is just RICER CRAP! Thanks guys! Happy New Year!

 

Ricer Crap or not, it works well. If you look closely at all the disruptions the flow of air needs to fight with going through the stock tubes and box, there is a lot of restriction. I would have opted to go with blacktubes if they had them to cut dow on the "show" a little.

If I were to keep the OEM airboxes, I would certainly go with the SL55 Y pipe to say the least. The stock one is ridiculous.

 

I could care less how it looks under the hood. What is the fastest set up? No one has ever looked under my hood except me. I dont plan to enter my car ia a chrome show for underhood pieces. Done that back in the day.

 

I like my Ricer crap! It sounds good, flows better and pulls harder for under $250.





Good luck with the dyno shoot out! I think the differences will be minimal but look forward to the results.

 

Wow. That is classy of you to say.
I'll be sticking some 'RICER CRAP' on mine in the spring c/o NeedsWings.

 

Well put!!!

 

Yet one more instance of a NOOB who speaks about that with which they know nothing about!

Way to go...you've managed to alienate a whole group of people, some who want to add some of that "ricer crap" to their cars, and the others are people who are finally putting some time and effort into improving our cars.

I hope you run into someone like Chitown at a redlight...I'd love to hear the story of him spanking your silly a**!

 

A ricer crap comment that a lot of members have mod'd to and then he closes EVERY post with "Ask about my replacement laser cut emblems! Been on site 4 years. SET of 6 is $60 or $30 for front and rear. All custom SRT and roadsters too!". Hmmm.

 

Have you noticed how close (identical) the design is to another? Hmmm!! Makes you think.

I think that "ricer crap" looks pretty good and when the dyno's are in we'll know about performance enhancement.

 

Yep, they all look kind of identical, looks like they left their hood up and somebody stole part of their engine's. I guess I'm just to much into looks, I personally think that the engine bay of the SRT 6 is a work of art. Some have mentioned that nobody see's under their hood except them. I've had several people ask me to see my engine and they are very impressed by the looks of the engine compartment, I usually get a "WOW". I'm not knocking anybodies pipe's, tube's or what ever they want to call them, but when I see these setups I will have to admit "UNCLE BEN'S" does come to mind. I think my S/C is getting all the air it wants with the SL55 setup even with the Renntech kit, my next step will be getting the inner-cooler temp's down.