Killer Chiller - intercooling option
Re: Killer Chiller - intercooling option
Thanks Jim
I am trying to keep my system
hidden. i'll be lucky if my whole system holds a little over two US gallons? but I'm going to make sure everything is well insulated, if I can figure out how to put another tank upfront I will. your battery box tank can not hold much more than 2 gallons. I would've gone that route but I didn't want to move my battery to the trunk, or see the system
Barry
I am trying to keep my system
hidden. i'll be lucky if my whole system holds a little over two US gallons? but I'm going to make sure everything is well insulated, if I can figure out how to put another tank upfront I will. your battery box tank can not hold much more than 2 gallons. I would've gone that route but I didn't want to move my battery to the trunk, or see the system
Barry
as far as the batt opening with the batt out the batt tray cut out ,my tank holds 3 1/2 gal of water . once the batt is out ,you have 4 to 5 " under the batt tray check it out before saying " your battery box tank can not hold much more than 2 gallons." good luck. jim
Re: Killer Chiller - intercooling option
you can get a power steering reservoir mount it like it is working,, on the front of the engine. some hold up to 1 1/2 qts. you have the in and out tubing already there. you could also use your your windo washer tank that is 1 1/2 gal.
as far as the batt opening with the batt out the batt tray cut out ,my tank holds 3 1/2 gal of water . once the batt is out ,you have 4 to 5 " under the batt tray check it out before saying " your battery box tank can not hold much more than 2 gallons." good luck. jim
as far as the batt opening with the batt out the batt tray cut out ,my tank holds 3 1/2 gal of water . once the batt is out ,you have 4 to 5 " under the batt tray check it out before saying " your battery box tank can not hold much more than 2 gallons." good luck. jim
I came up with that volume from some of the battery tanks I saw online
Barry
Re: Killer Chiller - intercooling option
I made mine , first with cardboard,template , then alum ,it is hard to get it in and out because the bottom is larger than the top. it is there and it works that is all that counts.
Re: Killer Chiller - intercooling option
Thanks Jim
I am trying to keep my system
hidden. i'll be lucky if my whole system holds a little over two US gallons? but I'm going to make sure everything is well insulated, if I can figure out how to put another tank upfront I will. your battery box tank can not hold much more than 2 gallons. I would've gone that route but I didn't want to move my battery to the trunk, or see the system
Barry
I am trying to keep my system
hidden. i'll be lucky if my whole system holds a little over two US gallons? but I'm going to make sure everything is well insulated, if I can figure out how to put another tank upfront I will. your battery box tank can not hold much more than 2 gallons. I would've gone that route but I didn't want to move my battery to the trunk, or see the system
Barry
If you want to go stealth and are willing to go custom, a tank in your stock intercooler location would hold a good amount of fluid. Would only need to run a small section of hose to the top of the engine back with a plug for filling purposes.
Re: Killer Chiller - intercooling option
but didn't think it was a good idea at the block too much surface area of the main radiator
Barry
Re: Killer Chiller - intercooling option
I think he means the stock heat exchanger that is below your rad. that would be a good idea, you just need to fab. a ,,,air tube /place t add the water like ,,, from the heat exchanger a small hose then to a bigger mounted pipe up to the top of the engine height, a pipe like 1" with a cap on it to fill and remove air. jim
Re: Killer Chiller - intercooling option
I think he means the stock heat exchanger that is below your rad. that would be a good idea, you just need to fab. a ,,,air tube /place t add the water like ,,, from the heat exchanger a small hose then to a bigger mounted pipe up to the top of the engine height, a pipe like 1" with a cap on it to fill and remove air. jim
Re: Killer Chiller - intercooling option
you do not need the larger pump,,,wont hurt to have it as long as you have a free flowing system. with o pressure. jim
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I'm also running the big pump and it works great. On the other hand I have a custom intercooler with 3/4" fittings alround.
I will try the KC with the supercooler first because of the distansens I will travel this summer
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PS - attached doesn't have aftermarket isolation kit or tank, and retains a HX (stock).
PSS - Steve was all over this but recommended a bypass valve. Trying to remember why....???? I think it was if the KC was before the HX.....you don't want the HX potentially reheating all the good work done by the KC if exKC Temp is < Ambient.
PSSS - there is another variant of this (more complicated) - you could pipe the hot side from your IC into your cabin heater and then down to the front HX>KC>Pump
Last edited by Billy22Bob; 05-30-2014 at 06:24 PM.
Re: Killer Chiller - intercooling option
the first 3 cars (all e55 Mercedes) we did we had a 3 way valves ,, it was set up to #1 killer chiller used with a heat exchanger, the coldest it got was 62 degrees, stop for a red light and it would drop to 55.. #2 the heat exchanger only (like stock) ,, the water at the KC would seem to freeze up. as when valve opened there was no flow for a few min. #3 the Killer chiller only ,, the best (coldest all the time) was the KC only,, all were with a 3/5 gal water tank.
all three cars now have the valves and the heat exchangers removed, and now run with the KC and storage tank only these 3 and my car are daily drivers , all have IAT"s in the 50's when the ambient temp is in the high 80"s,, at 70 mph my Iat reads 65 to 70,,at 80 mph my IAT's read 75 to 80,, jim
all three cars now have the valves and the heat exchangers removed, and now run with the KC and storage tank only these 3 and my car are daily drivers , all have IAT"s in the 50's when the ambient temp is in the high 80"s,, at 70 mph my Iat reads 65 to 70,,at 80 mph my IAT's read 75 to 80,, jim
Re: Killer Chiller - intercooling option
Thats how I am going to install it Jim, Remove my supercooler intercooler rad & have the KC feeding the
intercooler which is Rudys improved version. With all the flow I have I might get away with approx 2.5 gal system but I will be looking for a spot to put another small tank in somewhere. might put a large diameter hose in front of the bottom of my rad & cap it on either end. I am going to have about 24ft of 3/4 heater hose that is about 3 oz a ft & everything that I can heat insulate will be
Barry
intercooler which is Rudys improved version. With all the flow I have I might get away with approx 2.5 gal system but I will be looking for a spot to put another small tank in somewhere. might put a large diameter hose in front of the bottom of my rad & cap it on either end. I am going to have about 24ft of 3/4 heater hose that is about 3 oz a ft & everything that I can heat insulate will be
Barry
Re: Killer Chiller - intercooling option
the first 3 cars (all e55 Mercedes) we did we had a 3 way valves ,, it was set up to
#1 killer chiller used with a heat exchanger, the coldest it got was 62 degrees, stop for a red light and it would drop to 55..
#2 the heat exchanger only (like stock) ,, the water at the KC would seem to freeze up. as when valve opened there was no flow for a few min.
#3 the Killer chiller only ,, the best (coldest all the time) was the KC only,, all were with a 3/5 gal water tank.
all three cars now have the valves and the heat exchangers removed, and now run with the KC and storage tank only these 3 and my car are daily drivers , all have IAT"s in the 50's when the ambient temp is in the high 80"s,, at 70 mph my Iat reads 65 to 70,,at 80 mph my IAT's read 75 to 80,, jim
#1 killer chiller used with a heat exchanger, the coldest it got was 62 degrees, stop for a red light and it would drop to 55..
#2 the heat exchanger only (like stock) ,, the water at the KC would seem to freeze up. as when valve opened there was no flow for a few min.
#3 the Killer chiller only ,, the best (coldest all the time) was the KC only,, all were with a 3/5 gal water tank.
all three cars now have the valves and the heat exchangers removed, and now run with the KC and storage tank only these 3 and my car are daily drivers , all have IAT"s in the 50's when the ambient temp is in the high 80"s,, at 70 mph my Iat reads 65 to 70,,at 80 mph my IAT's read 75 to 80,, jim
I can see if KC pre HX - stopping at a red light and drop some temp as the HX was potentially rewarming the KC's good work.
That's epic you can run without a HX on KC only - amazing! That's one of those key milestone achievements!....I'm sure NW's are getting all over this as well...
I'd still be thinking of putting the HX in circuit pre KC though - it couldn't make things worse apart from maybe some flow reduction - so mainly upside risk.
The HX could be considered a small tank if you're chasing more volume - or it could be replaced with a small tank of the same dimensions/mounts if you go for HX delete.
b22b
Re: Killer Chiller - intercooling option
for #1 though - was the KC piped pre HX or post HX....?
I can see if KC pre HX - stopping at a red light and drop some temp as the HX was potentially rewarming the KC's good work.
That's epic you can run without a HX on KC only - amazing! That's one of those key milestone achievements!....I'm sure NW's are getting all over this as well...
I'd still be thinking of putting the HX in circuit pre KC though - it couldn't make things worse apart from maybe some flow reduction - so mainly upside risk.
The HX could be considered a small tank if you're chasing more volume - or it could be replaced with a small tank of the same dimensions/mounts if you go for HX delete.
b22b
I can see if KC pre HX - stopping at a red light and drop some temp as the HX was potentially rewarming the KC's good work.
That's epic you can run without a HX on KC only - amazing! That's one of those key milestone achievements!....I'm sure NW's are getting all over this as well...
I'd still be thinking of putting the HX in circuit pre KC though - it couldn't make things worse apart from maybe some flow reduction - so mainly upside risk.
The HX could be considered a small tank if you're chasing more volume - or it could be replaced with a small tank of the same dimensions/mounts if you go for HX delete.
b22b
you as I did can experement with the KC and the hx but the (noHX will be the best , pm me with your phone # and i'll tell you everything ,i did with mine. any one want info pm me your # ill get back to you. jim
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