A big 4 door sedan handling better than our SRT6's? I really doubt it. Way more power, yes. Being at around 4200 lbs puts it with the SRT8's.

 

Main thing to remember about people getting pissed that you may be able to 'beat' their car... it's called 'Insecurity'... It's all about massaging their ego, because nobody does it for them.

I'm so laid back at the track, I had the head instructor for my group (HPDE2 in NASA) tell me I was silly to ask for an instructor ride along... "Did I need a pacifier too?" was the quote. He had followed me for half a lap and said "You're driving the wheels off that car... you shouldn't be in this class anymore. Move up already.". I think I just needed that slap in the face to convince me.

Some guys on the track are that way too... they just can't stand to be passed. Gets them all wound up... and we aren't even racing in HPDE2... not against the clock or each other.

The supercharged CTS-V is a beautiful car, but at over 4200 pounds of curb weight, it's power to weight ratio is not too far off from the SRT6. Add a nice ECU tune and a supercharger over drive pulley and you could hold your own in acceleration with the CTS-V... and I know you could beat it on the road courses or slalom.

So smile ear to ear next time and say... "Yep, that's a mighty fine ride you got there... I won't try to race you. I have more important things to do with my time."

 

New Cadillac CTS-V is the fastest 4dr around the 'Ring, ever - 7:59







09 CTS-V Blisters Nurburgring

Breaks 8-minute barrier - potentially the fastest documented lap time for a production sedan

In testing today at Germany's Nurburgring, Cadillac's upcoming new 2009 CTS-V completed a lap of the legendary Nordschleife in 7:59.32. This blistering time appears to be the fastest ever publicly documented for a production sedan.

Cadillac is nearing the completion of testing for the highly anticipated CTS-V, the limited-edition high-performance model based on the award-winning CTS sport sedan. John Heinricy, GM Performance Division executive and an acclaimed racing driver, piloted the CTS-V through its sub-8 minute lap. The car itself had no performance modifications outside of those planned for consumer production, which is scheduled to begin this fall.

Estimated at 550-hp, the CTS-V is at the moment going through the final stages of intensive testing and development. One of the realistic objectives of the Cadillac team is to make the CTS-V the world's fastest production sedan, as a part of the overall goal to make the V-Series Cadillac's ultimate expression of performance and technology. More updates will be released in the coming weeks as testing is finalized, including the car's certified SAE power ratings, acceleration specifications and U.S.-market pricing.

Video documentation of the car's breakthrough Nordschleife performance will be posted online in the coming days at http://cadillac.gmblogs.com

The eight-minute mark has long been recognized as a major Nurburgring milestone, reserved for race cars and the fastest exotic sports cars. While there's no single official repository for Nurburgring data from private test sessions, numerous reputable websites and publications report lap times from race teams, automakers and independent sources.

The new 2009 CTS-V includes a suite of advanced performance technologies, including a new version of Cadillac's acclaimed Magnetic Ride Control suspension and the LSA 6.2-liter Supercharged V8 engine. For the first time, CTS-V will include the choice of 6-speed manual or automatic transmissions, with the new automatic sporting steering wheel-mounted shift buttons.


Laptimes of some interesting rides:


7:55 Ferrari F430 F1
7:56 Porsche 996 Turbo
7:56 Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale
7:56 CADILLAC CTS-V
8:02 Mercedes CLK 63 AMG - Black Series
8:05 BMW M3 E92
8:10 Chrysler Viper GTS
8:13 BMW M5 E60

Can you imagine what it would do with a pulley and tune?

I know a lot of you guys on here like to think that no car ever made could be as fast as a srt6 or handle as well as a srt6 but I for one love almost all cars and I enjoy driving, looking at and reading up on what is out there. The cts-v is an amazing car, that much power and performance in a 4-door sedan is just too cool.

 

those of you that met my buddy with the soltice at woodward, he just ordered one of these...so, I will let you know...he's retired from GM...so, he always drives something nice...and usually fast...real gear head...mechanical engineer, designs tranny's...he's now doing consulting for Jasper's Transmission Plant... he will tell you like it is...he said this beats buying a Z-06 for over 100K, and much nicer ride..

 

I'm with you....there's only been one reported 2009 CTS-V sale so far...and that was charity. As I understand it, the V-Series aren't going out until next month. Are you sure this was a "V"?

At any rate, they are nice rides and I'd go so far to say that it's the best pound for pound sedan on the American market. Based on the reports from Germany, I think this thing would destroy the SRT on the track as well. It would likely come down to the driver's skills.

 

Don't see why you guys are hating on the Cadillac.Beautiful car, I'd rather drive a 2009 CTS-V. 550 horse, kills M's and AMG's, 4-lobe twin-screw, all with a factory-backed warranty.

Am I wrong?

 

nope not at all. Contrary to the belief of some lol, there are a hell of a lot of nice cars out there to admire and the cts-v is one of them.

 

Sure, the new CTS-V is a beast, but my SRT looks better and is plenty fast. I wouldn't trade my Limited for a CTS, either. I simply like Crossfires better than Caddys.

 

Now THAT'S funny....I was wondering the same thing !!

 

I love my car because it is manual and only people that are real enthusiasts know about this car.

But DAAAAMN that Caddy's sick!!! I wouldn't trade my XF for a regular caddy, but I'd trade up an SRT for the V in a heartbeat.

On another note, you can't possibly compare these two cars. Completely different classes. While I adore my car, nobody can deny some things were left out, mainly because Mercedes wouldn't want a direct competitor with another one of it's platforms, especially if they created this competitor.

 

best friend ordered one of the 1st ones. had some trouble with the rear end at first and some stearing pump issue, on the road coarses. stock it was a pretty fast car and would be door to door. now after a tune from vette tuner danny pop. i can't hang with him any more. the new V has another 100 horse outa the box....i think SRT would have the first 60ft...

 

EDIT: and my dads car has ticked off low 1.8 60' foots. Stock tires.

Doubt it. Supercharged applications tend to have lots of bottom end torque. A good example: mustangs. My brother has one, and many friends own supercharged ones. Bottom and midrange are great, while horsepower drops off in the top end.

This is solved by switching induction methods: turbocharging. Helion makes a single turbo kit that outperforms many of the upgraded supercharged methods. Obviously, instant boost isn't available anymore, seeing as a turbo isn't spun by the motor directly and lag becomes an issue in bigger turbo applications, but turbo is more efficient and, in my opinion, broadens both power curves better.

Both cars may be supercharged, but the naturally aspirated 6.2 is quite good off the line. My father's 300 SRT puts the hurt on any SRT6 he's raced, dig or roll. Sure it weighs more, but the 300 accomplishes this with 100 horse less (mild mods on 300).

And it's available in stick. I find sticks get off the line better, at least with a capable driver.

 

wow sounds as if your talking about ones' self.. wierd

 

I really like the interior of the Caddy. It reminds me of something...... Dont care much for the exterior though. Power is always good.

MikeR

 

i like the 1948 and the XLR-V 2 door also... kinda like a crossfire / corvette

 

Funny, when I posted that I actually thought 'holy crap I'm describing myself!'

The difference is I'm scared of attention on the road and its the main drawback to the srt-6, people stare. Sure I want to look cool I just don't want them to look at me specifically. Terrifies me. Sad huh?

 

we have pointer's here in the south...
when u drive buy or are sitting
they look and or say i want one of those or what is it...
the little car does bring out the awe in prople....

 

One of the major car mags recently put the new CTS-V against the BMW M5 on a road course, with each manufacturer bringing their own driver. The CTS-V was faster. Yep, the Caddy beat the "Ultimate Driving Machine" on a road course.

The CTS-V is a truly awesome vehicle in every respect - but as with any car, it is not the be-all, end-all for every car owner. Personal taste and preferences always win out. Personally, I'd love to have one. Too bad the driver of the one in the OP's story was as much an arrogant ***** as many Corvette owners tend to be. It's a shame more people can't buy a nice car and just be decent about it.

Newsflash folks - buying a high powered car does not make you a better or more important person. It does not buy you respect, a greater right to use the road, or the talent to use said car at the limit. Seems a lot of people lose sight of that when they buy a car like this.

 

Are you sure? I want to see the survey that came up with those findings.

 

This weekend I had a cute girl stop mid-sentence to point and tell her friend "I LIKE that car" while I was waiting at a traffic light.
I couldn't get the silly grin off my face.
I find the biggest problem is that they always have a friend and I only have 1 passenger seat.