Finally Someone Raced Me!! SRT-6 vs Lancer Evo
Originally Posted by tom2112
Unmodified, the EVO and the STi are a close race. It depends on who you ask (an EVO owner or an STi owner) which is faster. They both seem to have their own religious zealot-type followers and fan-boys. A friend of mine is an STi fan-boy, so I get to hear about how all of the car magazines have been shamelessly pumping the EVO over the STi and how the STi is classes above the EVO, blah blah blah. What I get out of it is that Mitsubishi is greasing more palms at the magazines than Subaru.
While I appreciate that they are both quick and perform quite well, I still say they're both uglier than a mud fence.
While I appreciate that they are both quick and perform quite well, I still say they're both uglier than a mud fence.
I'm not a big fan of the looks either. I see the WRX allover the place here in NY. I guess the AWD does come in handy in the winter.
look here some will run with a sport bike ...for a little while
do a search on fast evo , i found one on the web oneday with 8.0 sec
www.metacafe.com/watch/145725/evowned
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-rwNDk6YLZV8/900hp_evo/
Mitsubishi EVO VIII 858awhp vs. 2005 R1 vs. 2003 ZX-10 w/ a 50 shot. Watch Video about cars,fast,evo by Metacafe.com ... a fast ride with an MITSUBISHI EVO 6 ...
do a search on fast evo , i found one on the web oneday with 8.0 sec
www.metacafe.com/watch/145725/evowned
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-rwNDk6YLZV8/900hp_evo/
Mitsubishi EVO VIII 858awhp vs. 2005 R1 vs. 2003 ZX-10 w/ a 50 shot. Watch Video about cars,fast,evo by Metacafe.com ... a fast ride with an MITSUBISHI EVO 6 ...
Last edited by huudoo; Nov 18, 2008 at 05:29 PM.
I think looks are all subjective i have owned a evo a few cars back and i appreciate that look. I have also owned a WRX way back in the day. Im a big fan of the new Evo X especially the front i think its really aggressive and great for what it is. They can be made to be really quick but my only concern is that they are getting heavier. they are now over 1.5 tone. As for the new STI not a big fan on that shape. I wouldnt trade up my SRT-6 thats for sure!
Originally Posted by huudoo
oh forgot to mention, that for them people to get 800 hp 900 hp
out of the EVO was around $30.000.. thats a lot of cabbage
out of the EVO was around $30.000.. thats a lot of cabbage
Originally Posted by huudoo
oh forgot to mention, that for them people to get 800 hp 900 hp out of the EVO was around $30.000.. thats a lot of cabbage
For an additional $30,000 I could buy another SRT-6 and add a bunch of performance parts and have two 450 hp cars!! Does that count?
Am I the only one on this board that has both an SRT-6 vert and an Evo?
The Evo is faster on a road course. Straight line they're very close unless you have a rich uncle willing to pay for new clutches for 6k launches on the Evo. Similar dollars will get you similar bang for the buck on mods (though there's more product on the mkt if you really want to go nuts with the mods). You can't put the top down on the Evo though!
The Evo is faster on a road course. Straight line they're very close unless you have a rich uncle willing to pay for new clutches for 6k launches on the Evo. Similar dollars will get you similar bang for the buck on mods (though there's more product on the mkt if you really want to go nuts with the mods). You can't put the top down on the Evo though!
Originally Posted by No1Piranha
Am I the only one on this board that has both an SRT-6 vert and an Evo?
The Evo is faster on a road course. Straight line they're very close unless you have a rich uncle willing to pay for new clutches for 6k launches on the Evo. Similar dollars will get you similar bang for the buck on mods (though there's more product on the mkt if you really want to go nuts with the mods). You can't put the top down on the Evo though!
The Evo is faster on a road course. Straight line they're very close unless you have a rich uncle willing to pay for new clutches for 6k launches on the Evo. Similar dollars will get you similar bang for the buck on mods (though there's more product on the mkt if you really want to go nuts with the mods). You can't put the top down on the Evo though!
What evo do you have? Have u been kind enough to lend one of your cars to a friend to put it to the test
Originally Posted by No1Piranha
Am I the only one on this board that has both an SRT-6 vert and an Evo?
The Evo is faster on a road course. Straight line they're very close unless you have a rich uncle willing to pay for new clutches for 6k launches on the Evo. Similar dollars will get you similar bang for the buck on mods (though there's more product on the mkt if you really want to go nuts with the mods). You can't put the top down on the Evo though!
The Evo is faster on a road course. Straight line they're very close unless you have a rich uncle willing to pay for new clutches for 6k launches on the Evo. Similar dollars will get you similar bang for the buck on mods (though there's more product on the mkt if you really want to go nuts with the mods). You can't put the top down on the Evo though!
Isn't a stock SRT6 faster than a stock EVO....
It certainly seemed so in my situation, but especially 60-100mph... That's where I passed quite easy.
Evo VIII, original owner. I bought one of those GTechs a while back for my own curiosity to compare. My take away was that bone stock to bone stock they're within a couple tenths in a straight line. If it's really cold out the Evo edges out. North of 50 degrees and the SRT6 seems to have a little advantage. I think on the street where the SRT can take advantage is when the Evo is caught flat on boost, meaning revs below 2500. It either means losing a beat until the revs pick up or dropping down a gear -- either way giving up ground. So in a roll-on the Evo is probably off boost in second, and isn't going to be able to make up the initial car length it then gives up to the SRT at anything near sane speeds. Funny thing though with Evo mods -- many of them fatten the power curve up top at the expense of the bottom end -- meaning they (initially) do even worse in a roll-on unless they know its coming and have already downshifted. That is the Evo's achilles heal.
FYI, re that sound you heard from the Evo. There's a little restrictor piece after the turbo that most tuners remove when they modify peak boost to eliminate the boost taper-off on the factory mapping. It's not a pop off or blow-off valve as it doesn't dump the boost, but it does restrict it. Evos whistle a bit once its removed.
FYI, re that sound you heard from the Evo. There's a little restrictor piece after the turbo that most tuners remove when they modify peak boost to eliminate the boost taper-off on the factory mapping. It's not a pop off or blow-off valve as it doesn't dump the boost, but it does restrict it. Evos whistle a bit once its removed.
Originally Posted by No1Piranha
FYI, re that sound you heard from the Evo. There's a little restrictor piece after the turbo that most tuners remove when they modify peak boost to eliminate the boost taper-off on the factory mapping. It's not a pop off or blow-off valve as it doesn't dump the boost, but it does restrict it. Evos whistle a bit once its removed.
Thanks-
I must admit that sound was very enticing. It just sounded fast, which is always cool. They sound great under a overpass, that's always fun.
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Originally Posted by Montana Crossfire
Isn't life grand!?
Good work Rodimus
Good work Rodimus
Yes it is!!
Almost got into it with a STI on the way home from work last night. He was riding my @ss so I took off and hit 100mph quickly....
He did not pursue though, I'll go with - he was scared
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Originally Posted by gapcrossfire
Now the important part, the Lancer is Mitsubishi's bottom of the barrel car. If you buy a base model Lancer, its kinda like driving a Neon. When you spec an Evo model, its just like putting lipstick on a pig. You have a fast, trackworthy 4-door, but its still just a commuter car. The Crossfire is FAR more refined, better engineered, well built and uses far higher standards in quality than the Mitsu. You can easily mod out an Evo to 1000HP, but people do that all the time with Pintos, old Datsuns, Novas and Chevelles. It doesn't make them good cars, just wicked quick in a quarter mile run.
In summation, I wouldn't waste your time or your gas racing any 'ricer' car. Driving a Crossfire, you should be above it!
In summation, I wouldn't waste your time or your gas racing any 'ricer' car. Driving a Crossfire, you should be above it!
A Lancer Evolution is far different from a base lancer. With generations 7-9 there were many reinforcements to strengthen the chassis. It is unfair to say that a Evo is not as well engineered as a Crossfire as they are two completely different cars in two completely different market segments. I highly doubt a crossfire chassis could take the kind of abuse that an evo takes on a rally course stock for stock.
You cannot "easily mod" an evo to 1000hp that is a ridiculous and baseless claim. To get 1000hp out of an evo requires a 4g64 block and a skies the limit bank account. Who the **** mods out pintos and old datsuns to over 1000hp? People drop sr20's in 210's all day long but they dont make near 1000hp. And pintos? Thats down right retarded. You should think before you type.
[quote=gapcrossfire]
First off, the noise you heard is the blow-off valve. As someone had previously mentioned, it is standard with any turbo setup. A turbocharger works off of the exhaust gases produces in the engine. The exhaust gases spin the turbine which compresses the incoming air to a higher pressure which means higher power when ignition in the engine block. The fact that they work off of the exhaust makes them inherintly bad for drag racing. A supercharger (like our SRT's) works kind of like a vacuum. Like the turbo, it compresses the air into the plenum giving a more power on the ignition, but unlike a turbo, it doesn't require the engine to 'spool' up the turbine before that power is realized. This is the reason that you have 'instant' power while he takes a while to bring the power on, otherwise known as 'Turbo Lag'. Most modern turbos are pretty good with this, but drive a mid-70s Porsche or 80's turbo hatch and you'll know what I mean! [quote=gapcrossfire]
Gapcrossfires correct only in stating what you heard was a blow off valve.
It is not standard with every turbo setup. Situations involving less pressure (lower than 7) do not require a blow off valve. A blow of valve or diverter valve works by releasing excess pressure so that it does not go back in the compresser and bend/damage the compressor fins.
read this: http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...o_tech101.html
Turbos are not bad for drag racing. A turbo can be spooled with various methods before you leave the line. That is a bold and completely incorrect statement.
Last edited by VicVegas84; Nov 25, 2008 at 03:38 PM.
Turbos are not bad for drag racing. A turbo can be spooled with various methods before you leave the line. That is a bold and completely incorrect statement.[/quote]
Chilaxe dude i love evos i owned one a year back it was so much fun until a wrote it off
They are good in many ways all u need to do is go on dragtimes.com to see moded they easily are under 10seconds. Great car i have alot of time for it
Chilaxe dude i love evos i owned one a year back it was so much fun until a wrote it off
^^^VicVegas84^^^
Thank you for the info!! I personally like to press the gas and go. If something gets blown in the process, even better!!
Thank you for the info!! I personally like to press the gas and go. If something gets blown in the process, even better!!
Last edited by rodimus; Nov 26, 2008 at 03:28 PM.
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