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My New Custom Wheel with Paddle shift

Old Sep 21, 2011 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by latemodel21
MMZ Timelord and I put the paddle shifter set up in his SRT6 this afternoon. It came out very nice and I got a lot of good pictures to include in the instructions. Turns out the Crossfire wheel is the easiest wheel yet that I have put paddles into. They really fit nicely. Here are a couple of pics

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Looks fantastic, so does the wiring go through the back of the wheel or how does the wiring make its way to where it needs to go?
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ZAHANMA
Looks fantastic, so does the wiring go through the back of the wheel or how does the wiring make its way to where it needs to go?
while this question has been answered in great detail, it probably was 120 posts ago.
So I will briefly answer your question buy saying that sending the additional signals (shift up and shift down) through the back of the wheel ... (clockspring) WITHOUT running additional wiring is the purpose of this kit. In the wheel (behind the airbag) this kit (using a small interface harness assembly) piggybacks the shift up and shift down signals onto the horn wire .... THEN the MODULE (which mounts in the passenger footwell next to the audio poweramp) decodes the signal and in turn drives the horn relay and shift up and shift down functions of the shifter (only driving shift up and shift down when car is in "drive").


here is a pic of the interface (that piggybacks the signals in the steering wheel) and the module that decodes the signals (off of the newly formed "horn-databus" .... The rest of the KIT (additional harness's, template, shifter tool, etc attempts to make the paddle integration as easy, reliable and oem-like as is reasonable.
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by latemodel21
while this question has been answered in great detail, it probably was 120 posts ago.
So I will briefly answer your question buy saying that sending the additional signals (shift up and shift down) through the back of the wheel ... (clockspring) WITHOUT running additional wiring is the purpose of this kit. In the wheel (behind the airbag) this kit (using a small interface harness assembly) piggybacks the shift up and shift down signals onto the horn wire .... THEN the MODULE (which mounts in the passenger footwell next to the audio poweramp) decodes the signal and in turn drives the horn relay and shift up and shift down functions of the shifter (only driving shift up and shift down when car is in "drive").


here is a pic of the interface (that piggybacks the signals in the steering wheel) and the module that decodes the signals (off of the newly formed "horn-databus" .... The rest of the KIT (additional harness's, template, shifter tool, etc attempts to make the paddle integration as easy, reliable and oem-like as is reasonable.
Chris

Thanks for that, I've been around the forum long enough that I wouldn't have gotten upset if you said it was already posted in the thread.

Let me know when you begin fabricating the second batch as I thought I saw that the first 15 were already accounted for, and I didn't get a PM. So via deductive reasoning, I will have to wait for the next batch to be made. Looking forward to getting this installed.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 01:26 PM
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How about we start a list of those who would like to be in the next batch, to give Chris an idea of what materials he needs ?

1.Zahanma
2.Magredvet


I too am looking forward to 'paddle shifting' ........
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 01:29 PM
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Hey Chris, just PM'd you.........check your e-mail too!
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 04:26 PM
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Yes, I would have to say that Chris and I were pleasantly surprised by the depth of the structural portion of the wheel in the position we chose for the paddles.

Been playing with them while driving today. Trying to get used to not reaching for the shifter... LoL.

Be warned, this mod is NOT for the feint of heart. It WILL involve cutting into a perfectly good steering wheel as well as VERY detailed work inside of the shifter mechanism on the circuit board. That being said, the kit that Chris has created is on par or above what you would see for a 10,000 kit commercial run. Do not be mislead by the home made look of the module. All the harnesses are made the proper length and each connection is heat shrink wrapped at any junctions or ends to ensure long life. As far as I can tell, they are superior to the factory harness in many ways. This man knows his $h!t.

Thank you again Chris for your patients with me and my stubborn steering wheel.

Cheers!
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 04:43 PM
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Be warned, this mod is NOT for the feint of heart. It WILL involve cutting into a perfectly good steering wheel as well as VERY detailed work inside of the shifter mechanism on the circuit board.
This coming from you, I now have zero confidence in my ability to do this mod! ..........JK Thanks for stepping up and being the Crossfire test install.............detailed installation pics soon to come??
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MMZ_TimeLord
Yes, I would have to say that Chris and I were pleasantly surprised by the depth of the structural portion of the wheel in the position we chose for the paddles.
worth mentioning that while the picture I posted of this wheel (showing the cutout and the tape measure) showed some of the steering wheel rubber left in the pocket ... it turned out that the paddle switch fit perfectly with ALL of the rubber in the hole removed (leaving only the steel frame exposed).



[/quote]Thank you again Chris for your patients with me and my stubborn steering wheel.

Cheers![/quote]

to be clear, the only "stubborn" part was getting the securing bolt out .... cutting in the paddles went quite nicely once we determined where we wanted them. Be warned fellow modders ... use some anti seize on the underside of the steering wheel securing bolt
Chris
 
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 12:37 AM
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My kit arrived at the Speedriven shop this morning. When we opened it, it was apparent this was a well thought out product made with quality components. Rudy was impressed with the quality of the work and how complete the kit was. As this was Rudys first install of the kit he worked with caution making sure of his measurments before cutting. It was a long day but the end result was a factory like installation.

The preformance is flawless and there is no delay in the shifts. Thanks Chris for investing your time and talents to bring this great mod to the Crossfire community.The cool factor is off the scale.

For any of you considering doing this mod that may have limited skills or just limited time, Rudy can make this a stress free and painless experience. Give him a call at Speedriven
 
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MMZ_TimeLord
Yes, I would have to say that Chris and I were pleasantly surprised by the depth of the structural portion of the wheel in the position we chose for the paddles.

Been playing with them while driving today. Trying to get used to not reaching for the shifter... LoL.

Be warned, this mod is NOT for the feint of heart. It WILL involve cutting into a perfectly good steering wheel as well as VERY detailed work inside of the shifter mechanism on the circuit board. That being said, the kit that Chris has created is on par or above what you would see for a 10,000 kit commercial run. Do not be mislead by the home made look of the module. All the harnesses are made the proper length and each connection is heat shrink wrapped at any junctions or ends to ensure long life. As far as I can tell, they are superior to the factory harness in many ways. This man knows his $h!t.

Thank you again Chris for your patients with me and my stubborn steering wheel.

Cheers!
I received my kit yesterday, and was very impressed with the quality of everything. When you look at the workmanship you will agree that he wasn't charging enough! I will have my set up installed by Saturday.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigkid
My kit arrived at the Speedriven shop this morning. When we opened it, it was apparent this was a well thought out product made with quality components. Rudy was impressed with the quality of the work and how complete the kit was. As this was Rudys first install of the kit he worked with caution making sure of his measurments before cutting. It was a long day but the end result was a factory like installation.

The preformance is flawless and there is no delay in the shifts. Thanks Chris for investing your time and talents to bring this great mod to the Crossfire community.The cool factor is off the scale.

For any of you considering doing this mod that may have limited skills or just limited time, Rudy can make this a stress free and painless experience. Give him a call at Speedriven
Jim, thanks for the kind words!
Glad we could make this happen for you. It was really great working with Rudy on this; he really impressed me with his auto-electronic savvy, his Crossfire-specific knowledge and his unprecedented rapid understanding of all facets of the KIT install. He also had some useful input on a couple of aspects of the KIT including a potentially better/easier way of removing the floor-shifter (the most arduous task of this mod IMHO). I haven't had the pleasure of working with Rudy before; I expect I will again on other projects .... Thanks Rudy, Thanks Jim

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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by latemodel21
Jim, thanks for the kind words!
Glad we could make this happen for you. It was really great working with Rudy on this; he really impressed me with his auto-electronic savvy, his Crossfire-specific knowledge and his unprecedented rapid understanding of all facets of the KIT install. He also had some useful input on a couple of aspects of the KIT including a potentially better/easier way of removing the floor-shifter (the most arduous task of this mod IMHO). I haven't had the pleasure of working with Rudy before; I expect I will again on other projects .... Thanks Rudy, Thanks Jim

Chris

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Yes,
Be warned, this mod is NOT for the feint of heart.
I have really been excited about doing this BUT I don't know, my excitement may be getting dampened a little. I hope I'm up the the challenge of this install..
I received my paddles today so lets "Geter done" and have some fun.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 06:07 PM
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chris ill be removing everything to send to you in a couple weeks so tell me the shifter shortcuts!
 
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 09:55 PM
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Steve you are going to love this one!You can get a demo drive at the Dragon. See ya soon.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
chris ill be removing everything to send to you in a couple weeks so tell me the shifter shortcuts!
Steve, The shifter short-cuts pertain to the Crossfire. The Crossfire has an extra support bracket (spanning the mid-console directly ahead of the shifter). Rudy briefly described to me a clever method of removing the shifter that allows you to avoid dealing with the front support span (by modifying the rear support span. something that mmztimelord hypothesized as well) and how to remove the shifter to shift-rod clip without crawling under the car. I am hoping that Rudy will chime in here and go into greater detail on this.


the slk32 shifter area does not have this added hurdle

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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by latemodel21
Steve, The shifter short-cuts pertain to the Crossfire. The Crossfire has an extra support bracket (spanning the mid-console directly ahead of the shifter). Rudy briefly described to me a clever method of removing the shifter that allows you to avoid dealing with the front support span (by modifying the rear support span. something that mmztimelord hypothesized as well) and how to remove the shifter to shift-rod clip without crawling under the car. I am hoping that Rudy will chime in here and go into greater detail on this.


the slk32 shifter area does not have this added hurdle

Chris
Now I'm really getting worried................hopefully Bob (LantanaTX) will post some pics of the shifter short cuts after he does his install tomorrow!
 
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 05:34 PM
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Now I'm really getting worried................hopefully Bob (LantanaTX) will post some pics of the shifter short cuts after he does his install tomorrow!
don't worry, buddy ... we'll get you through it
 
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 05:49 PM
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no doubt and no worries Chris, thanks !
 
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 06:49 PM
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Now I'm really getting worried................hopefully Bob (LantanaTX) will post some pics of the shifter short cuts after he does his install tomorrow!
I have taken some pictures of the paddle install but this isn't very hard to do but did take some time. I will take pictures tomorrow when I complete the installation. Hopefully this won't run into Sunday and I will have a Crossfire to take to the Dragon next week. I am planning to leave on Wednesday around noon. I will keep an eye out for the easiest way to complete this because I don't like laying on concrete under the car.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2011 | 09:00 AM
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Progress report:

I had already installed the paddles last week. I have one hour of work into it this morning and I have removed the air bag and pluged in the harness in the steering wheel which is a pieve of cake. Air bag back on.

I have completed the work under the hood which is cut one yellow wire and crimp on two connectors and then clamp a wire tap onto the other wire. These two wires are on the D connector which is the only plug on the K 40 relay with two wires. the K40 relay sits next to the ECU and has fuses on it. the harness is fished into the foot well area through a large hole at the bottom back of the black box which contains the ECU, K40 relay and BCM. This was not hard at all.

I have also completed the work in the foot well area which is to mount the module and connect the supplied harness. Again easy to do. If you pull back the carpeting in the passenger footwell you will see a large piece of styrofoam. You remove this and then remove the three 10m nuts that hold the large metal plate on. Lift a little and then let it fall towards the seat. Not hard at all.

I am down to the last part which is the shifter. this looks like more fun. I am pretty sure all the stuff I have done so far is the easy part. Will update latter and I have been taking pictures. I am now off to Lowes because I am running short on zip ties and need small squares of thin Mounting foam.
 
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