Request - DashDAQ Logs for 62mm or 65mm setups
Basically, I'd like to look at some other peoples data, specifically at WOT from 5300-redline.
With my setup I'm hitting 19.5-21psi boost in that range and it's making a hump in my AFR where it goes from low 11's to 13.2 in that rpm range. Unfortunately, I don't have the add-on fuel pressure sensor, so I'm having a hard time telling what's happening. Basically, as soon as I pass 19.3 psi, it starts to go lean.
I'm fully aware that NW has the adjustable fueling kit, but I really don't like the complexity of it. I would think with the Walbro 255lph pump and 550cc injectors, I would be able to get this tuned properly. My next thought is that I might need the 55 fuel pump, but really don't want to throw any more money at this.
Any help/suggestions would be great!
With my setup I'm hitting 19.5-21psi boost in that range and it's making a hump in my AFR where it goes from low 11's to 13.2 in that rpm range. Unfortunately, I don't have the add-on fuel pressure sensor, so I'm having a hard time telling what's happening. Basically, as soon as I pass 19.3 psi, it starts to go lean.
I'm fully aware that NW has the adjustable fueling kit, but I really don't like the complexity of it. I would think with the Walbro 255lph pump and 550cc injectors, I would be able to get this tuned properly. My next thought is that I might need the 55 fuel pump, but really don't want to throw any more money at this.
Any help/suggestions would be great!
One unknown in my setup is the fuel filter/ FPR. I replaced it a couple years ago with a supposed OEM MANN filter. My receipt just says "OE Fuel Filter for SLK230/320/32". No clue if it is the updated version or not.
Alan, here is a datalog from a 1/4 mile pass of mine in June. Hopefully you can read the small print.
I have a 62mm pulley, not tuned. Walbro 255 lph pump, 6an lines, regulator-less filter, adjustable fpr. The afpr is set at the factory pressure (58 psi). I have been watching the fuel trims and they are 1% and 3%, so I think I am going to turn up the afpr 1-2 psi. I would rather the ECU be pulling a little fuel than adding.
I only see 18 psi max boost at the top of 3rd gear. I have a very open exhaust, so I wonder if that accounts for the lower boost? The most I ever saw on the stock pulley was 14 psi.
I always see the 35* rise in IAT during the run, almost regardless of what the starting temp was. This run was "hot" with no ice in the ice tank, no fans or auxiliary cooling.
I also always see the dip in AFR between 5900 and 6100 RPM.
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I have a 62mm pulley, not tuned. Walbro 255 lph pump, 6an lines, regulator-less filter, adjustable fpr. The afpr is set at the factory pressure (58 psi). I have been watching the fuel trims and they are 1% and 3%, so I think I am going to turn up the afpr 1-2 psi. I would rather the ECU be pulling a little fuel than adding.
I only see 18 psi max boost at the top of 3rd gear. I have a very open exhaust, so I wonder if that accounts for the lower boost? The most I ever saw on the stock pulley was 14 psi.
I always see the 35* rise in IAT during the run, almost regardless of what the starting temp was. This run was "hot" with no ice in the ice tank, no fans or auxiliary cooling.
I also always see the dip in AFR between 5900 and 6100 RPM.
06052013log_zps4e60e42e.jpg
sorry to not have kept notes....Boostmonkey - do you have the stock HX or the supercooler?
The image is very small and subsequently the text is hard to read/decypher for any value other than indicative.
Any chance of a reload?
The image is very small and subsequently the text is hard to read/decypher for any value other than indicative.
Any chance of a reload?
Thanks Boost. Unfortunately, there are way too many variables in your example to help me diagnose my issue. You're running a different fuel pressure and open exhaust. Are you running a SuperCooler or anything for cooling mods? I'm seeing a ridiculously high Air Intake Temp rise during racing. It went as high as 199F with the ambient temp being only 70F. My 1/4mi MPH was also greatly reduced compared to pre-winter mods. I've got a lot to sort out, but it will have to wait til after vacation...
Thanks Boost. Unfortunately, there are way too many variables in your example to help me diagnose my issue. You're running a different fuel pressure and open exhaust. Are you running a SuperCooler or anything for cooling mods? I'm seeing a ridiculously high Air Intake Temp rise during racing. It went as high as 199F with the ambient temp being only 70F. My 1/4mi MPH was also greatly reduced compared to pre-winter mods. I've got a lot to sort out, but it will have to wait til after vacation...
Last edited by hustler316; Jul 7, 2013 at 05:31 PM. Reason: Stupid Pic won't show up
With stock heat exchanger and the NW 61.9 pulley I see approximately a 50F increase in AIT's from launch to completion of the 1/4 mile. By the way, this is the same as when I had the NW, Eurocharged, and no-name brand heat exchanger installed. As a result, I'll be leaving the stock heat exchanger and shroud stock.
Shoot me a PM with you email address and I'll send you some datalogs before the nitrous. Attached is a zip file of the 11.3 run with a 75 shot running the EC 61.9 SC pulley, Single NW, 550cc injectors, stock HE, SL55 pump, and Buckhead Imports tune.
Take a look at the link below, as it's what I think you're going through.
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ved-again.html
Shoot me a PM with you email address and I'll send you some datalogs before the nitrous. Attached is a zip file of the 11.3 run with a 75 shot running the EC 61.9 SC pulley, Single NW, 550cc injectors, stock HE, SL55 pump, and Buckhead Imports tune.
Take a look at the link below, as it's what I think you're going through.
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ved-again.html
Last edited by grip grip; Jul 7, 2013 at 09:49 PM.
You are right, that is very hard to read. Below is a link to the datalog image on photobucket. There is a zoom-in button in the lower right corner of the image that will allow you to read the text.
06052013log_zps4e60e42e.jpg Photo by superboostmonkey | Photobucket
I have the following charge air cooling mods:
- dual OEM front heat exchangers in parallel (thanks 32krazy!)
- "baked potato" IC. Intercooler wrapped in foiled-faced fiberglass insulation, metal taped edges, secured with safety wire, metal coolant lines to/from IC in insulating sleeves.
- isolated cooling systems
- 7 gallon ice/water reservoir tank mounted in trunk
- dual Johnson CM30 IC pumps. One in stock location, one in trunk, drawing from tank
- 3-way valve to use or bypass front HXs on hot water return to tank (bypassed when running ice water only)
- override switch to optionally run both IC pumps and radiator fan at full speed
With ice typical temps are: starting IAT 48* F, ending IAT 95* F.
ALan, I know our cooling mods are pretty different. look at the AFR curve. I actually have a dip in AFR from 5700 to 6000 RPM.
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