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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 01:32 PM
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Thanks I just want the best for the car. The best way to get the most HP. Yes it is a daily driver. Me working on cars. Lol. That's funny. I am not a mechanic by far. Barely know how to change oil.
I will add one other thing. I don't know what pulleys you have, but the 65mm s/c pulley and the 178 crank pulleys are very close in what they produce with the 178 being just a little more.... so, running either one with a good cold air intake and a tune will certainly put in the 12-12.2 1/4 mi.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 01:34 PM
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I will add one other thing. I don't know what pulleys you have, but the 65mm s/c pulley and the 178 crank pulleys are very close in what they produce with the 178 being just a little more.... so, running either one with a good cold air intake and a tune will certainly put in the 12-12.2 1/4 mi.
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
been there done that. stacked a code 3 on my renntech 178 pulley
Did you like. More HP. Could u tell difference than just a code 3.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 01:37 PM
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Code 3 generation 2
If you look at my sig line, you will see the black roadster times. The only difference since those times, I have added the modified intakes, and have retuned. I haven't change the times because I haven't taken the roadster back to the track since then. But that is what you can expect. Good luck...
 
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 01:37 PM
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I already have tune, DCAI, elimination of muffler, aem wideband, & code 3
 
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 01:43 PM
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I already have tune, DCAI, elimination of muffler, aem wideband, & code 3

I guess I misunderstood what you said you already had in post #3?? I have to go to work . . . I'm out of this one . . .
 
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 01:44 PM
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I already have tune, DCAI, elimination of muffler, aem wideband, & code 3
Gotcha...you are looking for more HP...well, talk to Steve, 32Krazy as he has ran the stacked set up. I understand now...I'm not a stacked guy, but Steve and Grip have been there done that. They go to Bowling Green a lot as well. I would hook up with them...good luck
 
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by austinbarrylee
Did you like. More HP. Could u tell difference than just a code 3.
more trouble than just a bolt on. you will be dealing with tuning, fueling and supercharger surge issues.
install the code 3 intake and tune for it. drive it and be happy
 
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 01:51 PM
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more trouble than just a bolt on. you will be dealing with tuning, fueling and supercharger surge issues.
install the code 3 intake and tune for it. drive it and be happy
Well, I thought he was starting from scratch. I think he is looking for a little more. If so, then it is either more pulley, like the 62mm, or the 185 crank, intake manifolds, ?injectors?, certainly more fuel. If you ordered a go fast kit from Rob, and went with the 178, you won't gain much...If I understand what you are wanting to do. Certainly the intake, psk, I wouldn't use the spacers will all help as part of his kit.
 

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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by oledoc2u
Gotcha...you are looking for more HP...well, talk to Steve, 32Krazy as he has ran the stacked set up. I understand now...I'm not a stacked guy, but Steve and Grip have been there done that. They go to Bowling Green a lot as well. I would hook up with them...good luck
If I remember correctly Steve finally jumped into the 11.7's with that setup.

What is the goal for this setup? Round town red light fun, or road course, autoX, back country roads?
 
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 01:57 PM
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^ 12.1 to 11.9 nick. way to much work for .02 at the track and the car was a pain in the *** on the street. do the code 3 and if you have to run fast follow grip with nitrous. the only way to get faster without dropping a v8 and twice the cost of car in it
 
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 01:59 PM
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If I remember correctly Steve finally jumped into the 11.7's with that setup.

What is the goal for this setup? Round town red light fun, or road course, autoX, back country roads?
yes, but he had a lot of problems getting there. If it is a daily driver, and cool weather to boot, then I see problems with a stacked set up. Just running a 185 or a 62mm is hard enough in cool weather to keep from leining... If he wants more, I would pick a pulley, one pulley, and run with it...later, got to fix the Tahoe....needs brakes, and it is suppose to snow this weekend...lol
 
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 02:03 PM
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yes, but he had a lot of problems getting there. If it is a daily driver, and cool weather to boot, then I see problems with a stacked set up. Just running a 185 or a 62mm is hard enough in cool weather to keep from leining... If he wants more, I would pick a pulley, one pulley, and run with it...later, got to fix the Tahoe....needs brakes, and it is suppose to snow this weekend...lol
I agree with you doc. Code 3, DCAI, and Tune it's the best most reliable combo.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 02:07 PM
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I have a 178 crank pulley on my car now. I stacked the Code3 with it and had to remove it because of the AFR being KABOOM lean. Then being who I am, I added the Pierburg 55 pump and put the Code3 on again. It was still lean, around 13 AFR at the top of 3rd gear, but I ran it at the track anyway. I can tell you that from red light to red light, stacked is amazing fun. At the 1/4 mile the difference was less than .1 and an over boost cell. A whole lot of risk for almost nothing. If you insist on running stacked, I believe after adding the 550 cc injectors and getting the tune right you might pick up a few more tenths. I have an aversion to new tunes. It usually takes several unless you can take your car to be tuned on a dyno by someone who's good at tuning. E/C doesn't have a shop in my neck of the woods.

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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 02:32 PM
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I believe the surge Steve and I were experiencing was a result of detonation. At part throttle "closed-loop" the engine would see over 15psi and over 20 degrees of timing with an Air/Fuel of 14.7. That's way too little fuel for those conditions.

I think stacked is a great mod if you're determined to see how fast you can go in the 1/4 without spray, but it's a PITA when the surge hits and your face almost goes through the windshield. I'm sure this can be remedied by retarding the timing, but at that point your decreasing the power when the objective is to increase it.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by oledoc2u
Gotcha...you are looking for more HP...well, talk to Steve, 32Krazy as he has ran the stacked set up. I understand now...I'm not a stacked guy, but Steve and Grip have been there done that. They go to Bowling Green a lot as well. I would hook up with them...good luck
We only have 1/8 in louisville. My 1/4 is on the street. A ford plant is here a lot of Stangs'
 
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 02:59 PM
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I have a 178 crank pulley on my car now. I stacked the Code3 with it and had to remove it because of the AFR being KABOOM lean. Then being who I am, I added the Pierburg 55 pump and put the Code3 on again. It was still lean, around 13 AFR at the top of 3rd gear, but I ran it at the track anyway. I can tell you that from red light to red light, stacked is amazing fun. At the 1/4 mile the difference was less than .1 and an over boost cell. A whole lot of risk for almost nothing. If you insist on running stacked, I believe after adding the 550 cc injectors and getting the tune right you might pick up a few more tenths. I have an aversion to new tunes. It usually takes several unless you can take your car to be tuned on a dyno by someone who's good at tuning. E/C doesn't have a shop in my neck of the woods.

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I was going to get EC tuned driving down to Atl at Buckhead Imports but if I don't have to I will be happy. I have heard you can tune remotely threw a laptop but I don't know good it is. I have inmotion tune now and from what I am hearing not a good tune. Here there a guy with an excellent following but he tunes VW and BMW. I don't know how he is with our cars. He said he can do it and has a dyno but I don't know if I believe he can since the cars are different.... Red to red light fun is what I am looking for. Like I said we only have 1/8 mile here so I will prolly not take the car to track much.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 03:03 PM
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I was going to get EC tuned driving down to Atl at Buckhead Imports but if I don't have to I will be happy. I have heard you can tune remotely threw a laptop but I don't know good it is. I have inmotion tune now and from what I am hearing not a good tune. Here there a guy with an excellent following but he tunes VW and BMW. I don't know how he is with our cars. He said he can do it and has a dyno but I don't know if I believe he can since the cars are different.... Red to red light fun is what I am looking for. Like I said we only have 1/8 mile here so I will prolly not take the car to track much.
If this is all you're doing get a eurocharge tune, keep the DCAI, and stick with a Code 3 pulley. You can probably get a special buying them together.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by oledoc2u
Well, I thought he was starting from scratch. I think he is looking for a little more. If so, then it is either more pulley, like the 62mm, or the 185 crank, intake manifolds, ?injectors?, certainly more fuel. If you ordered a go fast kit from Rob, and went with the 178, you won't gain much...If I understand what you are wanting to do. Certainly the intake, psk, I wouldn't use the spacers will all help as part of his kit.
You are understand right. Right now I have DCAI, tune, code 3, aem wideband, and muffler eliminate. I am trying to get more HP and ready 2 order parts. The parts I was going to order stage 2 from NW, PSK, SB, SL55 fuel pump, Phenolic Spacers, retune. I was wondering while I'm ordering parts should I stack the code 3. And what other parts are recommended.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by oledoc2u
yes, but he had a lot of problems getting there. If it is a daily driver, and cool weather to boot, then I see problems with a stacked set up. Just running a 185 or a 62mm is hard enough in cool weather to keep from leining... If he wants more, I would pick a pulley, one pulley, and run with it...later, got to fix the Tahoe....needs brakes, and it is suppose to snow this weekend...lol
Car doesn't get driven in snow. Summer car. I store it in the winter.
 
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