sify I think we all want to see the informationn and the pricing but in my opinion the Begi turbo reference is an unfair comparison. Unlike Begi, Ground Control has not asked anyone for up front money to fund R&D for this project. As I see it you will not be asked for money until there is a published product line including pricing. We have two members who will have the functioning products on their cars for reviews and comments before we have the simple option to buy or pass. And isn't a coil over a shock the definition of a coilover. Just my opinion and of course you are entitled to yours.

 

First, Before you open your mouth why don't you do a little research first. There is a whole other post on this subject. If you took the time to read it you would find that there are pieces of information in regards to what is being done, including pictures of Tommy's car with the kit installed.
Secondly, I did not elaborate on specifics as to what exactly GC has come up with, or the price points for the components involved. This was done for one real specific reason....They asked me not to. They want to double and triple check everything to ensure it works the way it's suppose to before they start selling their product. They have a reputation and standard that is second to none.
Thirdly, what have you done to help out this community? Have you designed or manufactured any products for this platform? No...I didn't think so, so take your negative "Still need to see the walk after all the talk" and beat it. No one was asking for anything except a simple list of who "may" be interested in their products. I did this as a courtesy to this community so we didn't run into a situation where someone wanted something but GC was sold out already, therefore making someone wait. I was trying to ensure that everyone that was interested got what they were interested in. There was no talk of money, except to say the price points were very attractive.
Lastly, If all you saw in their complete catalog was a coil over, you need to open your eyes before you open your mouth, at least that way you can see your foot going in it!

 

I am sure I am in for something but until I see what is available and pricing it is tough to give a better answer.

 

Joined in August 2004, and this is your first post! Love it!

I'll be heavily considering the GC suspension as well, but will echo the sentiments of many others. Mine will be a milder setup, as it's a daily driver.

 

Big hat off for GC and hustler for setting this up. Looking fwd driving the 6 with all the new goodies!

 

My current setup is awful so looking fwd
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Damn, that just happened...lol.

 

Indeed it did Tommy...Indeed it did. I took a play out of your playbook

 

I was thinking I need to give you some of my calming techniques.....

 

D Street would be good. Just did not see any Crossfires in the '14 rules and "Mercedes SLK" is in C.

I read "Substitution, addition, or removal of a single anti-roll bar and supporting hardware (brackets, endlinks, bushings, etc.) is permitted" as I can add a rear bar if the front is not changed (other than bushing material).

It also sounds like I can run 19" (standard) rear wheels on all 4 though that is stretching.

Spring must meet factory specs though may be at the limits of tolerance.

This is the biggie: "On cars without the ability to turn off electronic stability control and/or traction control (ESC/TC) from the manufacturer, modifications to defeat the ESC/TC are permitted."

 

Thank you for the time you have put into this project for our community, the updates, and starting this thread Justin. I am subscribed and definately interested. This is by far the biggest and one of the only improvement to the R170 platform.

 

Makes me want to "spank" his avatar.......hope he posts often. LOL

 

Completely stock SRT6 here.

Interested in seeing what they give as far as options.

I like to autoX, but I am more interested in corner weighting and spring rate than ride height.

As for classes, stock SRT6 for 2014 is FS still, it is just now called 'Street' instead of 'Stock'. They now have the 'Street R' classes for those who want to run DOT competition rubber. But those are to disappear by 2015.

As for Street Touring classes, not Crossfire specifically listed, but I would think it would slot into STU since the stock rear tire is 255mm in section width.

 

You know...I just realized I need to quit paying my SCCA dues. Too many bullshit rules for me. I am in for a better handling car. I have been to two local SCCA meets, and still don't have a clue what they expect except for their regulars to get what they want and put down what I brought to race. But, that is another story. If this kit will stiffen things up a bit, especially when I drive the front suspension into the ground on cornering, then I will bite for sure. By now, they need some upgrades anyway. Roadster is pushing 40k, and coupe 30k, so count me in for sure. Prices will be comparative to other kits out there I am sure. Thanks for putting this together, but don't come down of those who question builds. It seems to be the trend here lately due to a few failed attempts to build things for our cars. 10 year old platform, so glad any vendor is willing to try to help us, even if they fail. Of course, with Begi, they just won't admit defeat....thanks again.

 

The ground control kit may push me up a division depending on what it includes. I'll have 2 choices, move on up or remove mods that don't do much. I want to be competitive (win) but I'm satisfied just to be on track and improving as a racer so it's not that big of a deal. The next category has a GTR with 315's on the front and 500 whp and a real driver. That could be a bit much for me as he's 3 seconds faster at this time.

Les

 

I think that's my problem with it all Les. You mod the car the way you like it, but to compete you have to mod to the rules. I am not against rules as I know they are there to make things even, but I don't see even when what you just stated is where you end up. Against more HP and true race cars. Either way, I am glad a vendor and a member was willing to step up and give us some more performance parts. Move up Les, nothing like a good challenge, and beating a GTR, well, that would be priceless...lol

 

I beat them all the time already but, they are driven by former Porsche owners ……. or just clueless how to get around a track … or both?

Les

 

Now I see it: F Street (FS) which is the current designation of the class I used to run my V8 Sunbird (car never lost but the driver did a few times).

Used to wear out two tires and crack one wheel at every event. Fortunately Vega GT wheels were cheap.

 

I see that at the drag strip....but, you know when you are up against the real deal, and to beat them is priceless. I guess by now, as you get to know this ole' guy, you would know growing up racing motorcycles with a Dad as a great mechanic, I would race factory, or sponsored bikes all the time. To beat them at their own game with priceless for it's time. There is something about being out there, absolutely naked (no sponsor stickers) people just knew what you were up against. I loved that underdog position. No expectations. But a win, was just down right cool. My early drag racing career with the Camaro didn't fare as well. Really needed that money then, lol. Anyway, with this suspension upgrade, maybe that will make some difference in the corners. I know from my just pushing the roadster hard into the corners I can drive the suspension into the ground. Feels like I am going to put the steering tire up thru the fender. I can lift the rear off while doing this. For you SCCA racers, we used to do a lot of EVOC training at the police academy, so we have had track time. Unlike you though, we actually got to make contact...lol. I hope it will improve that part of it as I like the stiffness of the SRT suspension. For me it isn't stiff enough in the front. We shall see what the racers say.

 

Is 1100 pds up front stiff enough?