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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 05:02 PM
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Mike, what do you think of using a wool pad with the Porter Cable. My Crossfire has no swirls buy my other cars do and since I have the Porter Cable polisher and various swirl products that need using, and a wool pad, I was just wondering. For paint with lots of swirls, I used to use a wool pad with No. 2, followed by No 9, followed by No. 26. But these clear coats are another animal. What do you think. Would a more aggressive pad be advised?

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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike-in-Orange
Yes, the new products we have coming out will work just fine with the DA buffer - you do NOT need a rotary.
Hooray!

Originally Posted by Mike-in-Orange
As for the introduction of swirl marks - they only come from physically touching the paint, either through washing/drying, use of a quick detail spray to remove light dust, etc. Unless you've got some holograms introduced by a rotary buffer before you owned the vehicle. I've seen plenty of dealer prep departments do a serious number on paint with a rotary, only to cover everthing up with a good glaze and then a few coats of wax. As the wax wears off and the glaze gets washed away, the holograms show up again. You can refill and hide over and over again, but they aren't going away unless and until you make them go away.
Fortunately, I have no holograms. I think most of the microscratches were there when I got the car. I've managed to diminish some of them but they never really go away. After Maguiar's releases this new stuff, I'd be interested in hearing your recommended course of action.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by velociabstract
Mike, what do you think of using a wool pad with the Porter Cable. My Crossfire has no swirls buy my other cars do and since I have the Porter Cable polisher and various swirl products that need using, and a wool pad, I was just wondering. For paint with lots of swirls, I used to use a wool pad with No. 2, followed by No 9, followed by No. 26. But these clear coats are another animal. What do you think. Would a more aggressive pad be advised?

Les
I wouldn't use a wool pad with the PC - wool has very high cutting ability and the action of the PC isn't able to make full use of it. Worse still, it doesn't have the power to overcome it either and you run the very real risk of just putting more marring in the finish this way. I'd rather see you use a polish/cleaner/compound/etc that offers high cutting ability with a great finish at the same time. Sounds like a tall order, I know, but it's coming.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 04:39 AM
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Has Maguiar's released its new polishes yet?
 
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 07:53 AM
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Has Maguiar's released its new polishes yet?
The products were introduced at SEMA two weeks ago but won't be on store shelves until late Dec/early Jan.

For those interested you can read about them at http://www.meguiars.com/whatsnew/200...sumer_products and http://www.meguiars.com/whatsnew/200...ional_products
 
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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Mike, I'm definitely one who is interested in these new products. I used a scratch and swirl remover on my black XF in September and it did a fair job, but not as good as I had hoped. I used a Sears orbital buffer. So, between the Ultimate Compound and SwirlX, which one is the more aggressive? I would assume the Ultimate Compound.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 12:23 PM
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Mike, I'm definitely one who is interested in these new products. I used a scratch and swirl remover on my black XF in September and it did a fair job, but not as good as I had hoped. I used a Sears orbital buffer. So, between the Ultimate Compound and SwirlX, which one is the more aggressive? I would assume the Ultimate Compound.
In my experience the clear coat on the Crossfire is quite hard so a lot of OTC products aren't really up to the task. Neither is a basic orbital buffer, for that matter. Those things just don't have the power to get any real work done.

As to aggressiveness of SwirlX and Ultimate Compound, you're right that UC is more aggressive. Interestingly, both of these are more aggressive than our M83 Dual Action Cleaner Polish from our professional line, and they leave a nicer finish. M83 is a body shop safe, paintable product though, whereas the other two are not.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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In my experience the clear coat on the Crossfire is quite hard so a lot of OTC products aren't really up to the task. Neither is a basic orbital buffer, for that matter. Those things just don't have the power to get any real work done.
Does this mean those of us without the skill to use a rotary are SOL? Or is there some combination of these new products that will give good results with a Porter Cable?
 
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 07:10 PM
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Does this mean those of us without the skill to use a rotary are SOL? Or is there some combination of these new products that will give good results with a Porter Cable?
Both of these new products are compatible with the Porter Cable and either a foam polishing pad or a foam cutting pad. Keep in mind that a cutting pad on a D/A can have a tendency to haze the paint a bit but that is easily corrected with a follow up pass using a polishing pad.

Like I mentioned before, these products make use of abrasive technology derived from our M105 Ultra Cut Compound, meaning they cut very effectively but leave a beautiful finish. The abrasive material is extremely small, incredibly hard, and much more uniform in size and shape than any other abrasive currently used in automotive finish chemicals.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 08:46 AM
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Scratch X is an incredible product! Can't imagine they can make it better.
Pat
 
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