I had a very pleasant afternoon today @ Modacar in Livermore California. Had my baseline dyno done, and hope to have another dyno with an Upsolute chip installed by the end of next week. Thanks to everyone who chipped in for this dyno to be done. We can use a few more donations to pay for the next one, so if you have any interest in this please help out with what you can... in the near future (sometime this summer) i plan on adding a magnaflow muffler and custom intake. I will do another dyno then with my own finances of course.

Dyno was done on a Dynojet. Max HP 173.24 Max Torque 183.35 Translates to a 23% drivetrain loss if i'm doing the math correct. PICS BELOW, ENJOY!

Ian

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lets try it again...

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Thanks for going through the trouble of doing all of this. It's good to see some real numbers. How did they turn off the rev limiter?

 

I don't see where they did - it stopped at 6,200 rpm just like it is supposed to.

 

very cool great data!

 

Actually, how did they "fool" the traction control system? With the rears ramping up and down and the fronts not moving, the tc kicks in and stops the testing in first gear. I am sure there is a way around this, but I never found it. Can you share what they did?

 

Danimal, what I meant is what CWdilg posted. The traction control system keeps the engine from going over a certain rpm (something like 2,500, I forget the exact number) without the front wheels spinning. This happens even if you turn off the traction control. Somehow the guy who did the dyno managed to turn off the traction control rev limiter.

 

Oh, now I understand what you were asking...sorry. I don't know either.

 

He didn't do anything besides turning the traction control off. It was blinking and going crazy the whole time, but it didn't stop us from getting a good dyno read out. He said on some Mercedes and a lot of G35's (my prior car) that the traction control prevents them from even doing a dyno. We had one run that didn't work out so well, but the other two that you see were fine. Does anyone know anything more about the pinging issue with the Upsolute chip? Because he advised me that i steer away from any chip that causes even mild pinging as it could be very harmful... on a good note he said that he's seen really good chips that produce up to 30 hp on N/A engines.

 

I am one who had pinging issues with the Upsolute. But I am a worst case example. The summertime temps here in Phoenix are 110 F daily, and the street surface temp is easily 150 F. All of that heat rises and soaks into the engine compartment, and that coupled with the fact that we only have 91 octane here and the air conditioning is running 24/7 adding even more heat load and compressor load to the engine...all of this adds up to grueling conditions for an engine.

The pinging was quite noticeable in the middle of summer, but the car still returned good mileage - still better than without the chip. Didn't like the pinging, but could do nothing about it. It wouldn't ping in the morning, though, when the temps there would be in the 70's or so. I wish I could describe the pinging better for everyone, but it is a subjective thing. I have been in cars that pinged more than this, so it isn't nearly as bad as many I have heard. But it was definitely more than just barely noticeable. Any gear-head (like me) would immediately notice it but consider it in a non-alarming range. I guess you could argue that any pinging is bad, but again, I still saw increased mpg's so it was probably just fine...but I will add that a full 4,000 rpm launch from a dead-stop would bog the engine...the computer probably was pulling back the timing as much as it could to stop the ping which resulted in the bog. That bog condition was only there in the middle of the summer at worst case conditions, so again, most people won't even experience that.

I believe the Upsolute Chip is really tuned for 93 octane for these extreme conditions. It probably is ping free on 93, but can't guarantee it. If your daytime temps stay in the 90's, then 91 octane is just fine...it would just slightly ping in that temp range for me, and for me that would be just fine. Maybe not for some of you though...

By the way, I tried all the brands of gas here (Mobil, Shell, Chevron, Quiktrip, Shamrock) and didn't see a difference between them. Didn't try Arco because that is a known crappy brand and didn't want to confirm that.

Anyone else see Upsolute pinging issues in extreme temps?

 

What a beautiful looking dyno run! Notice how the torque curve stays nice and flat throughout the entire RPM range? That's what makes this car so fun to drive!

 

Nice work, did you get the data on disk by chance? Your numbers seem about right on Cali 91.

Was it air-conditioned in the shop? The temp/humidity numbers are so perfect...ie the CF is 1.0.

 

Cheeky Monkey - I do not believe that Dyno results (paid for by this forum due to upsolute being unwilling provide any) should be given away to any company. The results of these Dyno runs (if good enough) will possibly result in Upsolute selling a quantity of their chips to forum members, that means we are providing what is effectively free advertising for Upsolute. Giving away the Dyno results would only result in more free advertising for Upsolute.

Rant... Rant... Rant...

 

I don't know if the shop had AC on, but it was a cool rainy day, and he had a fan blowing towards the engine. I do not have the data on a disk, and i agree with Bollox, i will not be posting up the dyno results when the chip is installed. Only to other members on the forum via PM. I wish it didn't have to be like that, but since Scott is not providing any proof of gains, nor is he willing to help pay for the dyno... and i'm still paying $250 deposit for chip (you would think they would give me a bigger discount then that) that's just how its going to be.

 

I guess it looks like we can dyno our cars now, but I don't expect to be any higher than the 172, even with the Magnaflow, but it will sure sound great in the process.

 

Good Lad ... PM is the way to go. Let us know if you still have a finantial shortfall for the second Dyno - lets see what this chip will really give us.

Cheers

 

Just charge Upsolute $100 every time they reference or use your dyno sheets.

 

What are you talking about?

You are paying me a deposit that gets refunded when you return to stock.

In other words your cost is $0, you've paid for the dyno time and shipping only and the other guys have chipped in for that.

Are you telling me you are going to stiff me for the $175 balance of the chip cost *and* not even give me the dyno results?

So you are in this to get chipped and proper dyno testing paid for by your own club members? And **I've** been accused of running a scam?

My normal policy is pay in full, refundable within 30 days. I agreed to reduce from $425 to $250 because you indicated to me you'd only like to test it out. I did not agree to *sell* you a chip for $250.

We have obviously had a miscommunication, Please contact me prior to any ECU shipment, if this is not resolved I will refuse the package.

-Scott