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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 07:27 AM
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Nope. Those are the numbers on this dyno. It doesn't like the na cars. The only dyno I've seen decent numbers on is the Mustang dyno. I'm thinking there is a limp mode if the front wheels aren't spinning. That's the only conclusion I can make.
we talked about this waaaayyyyy back. the front wheel has to be spinning at 10mph or more in order to work on a dyno, but the guys who did my ecu bypassed that little problem by doing some magic to the ecu and it ran on the dyno fine. if you don't completely disable traction control (which has do be done by moving and resoldering the wire in the ecu) then it will max out at 5k rpm.

and btw, mustang dynos are the MOST conservative dynos in the world. it makes no sense that any dyno would read lower than a mustang dyno, they are known for putting out the lowest numbers. what dyno are you using?
 
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 09:59 AM
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we talked about this waaaayyyyy back. the front wheel has to be spinning at 10mph or more in order to work on a dyno, but the guys who did my ecu bypassed that little problem by doing some magic to the ecu and it ran on the dyno fine. if you don't completely disable traction control (which has do be done by moving and resoldering the wire in the ecu) then it will max out at 5k rpm.

and btw, mustang dynos are the MOST conservative dynos in the world. it makes no sense that any dyno would read lower than a mustang dyno, they are known for putting out the lowest numbers. what dyno are you using?
For all years except 04, you can remove 2 fuses and it will max out at 5K with full power. For the 04 the resoldering method may be the only way. The traction fuse for the 04 disables the spoiler, speedometer, and throws all sorts of codes. Eventhough it allows it to rv to 6200 rpm uninterrupted I'm pretty sure it is some sort of "limp mode."

Due to the odd nature of dynoing these cars, the highest numbers we've seen, and the only ones we compare against for product development, are from the Mustang dyno.

We are hoping to get on the Mustang dyno next week. The only one near here is very busy though, so I'll keep my fingers crossed.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 01:05 AM
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For all years except 04, you can remove 2 fuses and it will max out at 5K with full power. For the 04 the resoldering method may be the only way. The traction fuse for the 04 disables the spoiler, speedometer, and throws all sorts of codes. Eventhough it allows it to rv to 6200 rpm uninterrupted I'm pretty sure it is some sort of "limp mode."

Due to the odd nature of dynoing these cars, the highest numbers we've seen, and the only ones we compare against for product development, are from the Mustang dyno.

We are hoping to get on the Mustang dyno next week. The only one near here is very busy though, so I'll keep my fingers crossed.

I had an 04, and there was no limp mode, no codes, no problems whatsoever and speedinnovations made it so that my cars tc would fully turn off with the switch. call them, ill give you the number if you want.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by x'ed
I had an 04, and there was no limp mode, no codes, no problems whatsoever and speedinnovations made it so that my cars tc would fully turn off with the switch. call them, ill give you the number if you want.
Did you not have a cut out at 5000rpms either?
 
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 09:06 PM
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Wait, Quick question for all the smart gear heads here...
What is i put a voltage clamp on my two ESP sensors? My bud is a crossfire mech and he has already located both of them and told me what the normal operating voltage is. Will it work as like a permanent bypass?
 
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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Sounds possible.
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Wait, Quick question for all the smart gear heads here...
What is i put a voltage clamp on my two ESP sensors? My bud is a crossfire mech and he has already located both of them and told me what the normal operating voltage is. Will it work as like a permanent bypass?
 
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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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why not just find an industrial park with a perfect blacktop for 1/8 or 1/4 mile run, Install a G-tech meter in your test car and you will get a real world and very acurrate measurment. only cost you $200

sometimes you just need to think simple.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 04:45 PM
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you can get a similiar app. for a blackberry or ipod touch its called dynolicious its really cool and if you already have one of those devices its only like 12 bucks.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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Plus funny thing is a group called Garage 419 tested the G-meter against the dynolicious app and the app was more accurate.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyshadow
Plus funny thing is a group called Garage 419 tested the G-meter against the dynolicious app and the app was more accurate.
haha! i saw the same test on vodcar!
 
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Old Sep 28, 2009 | 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyshadow
Did you not have a cut out at 5000rpms either?

no cut out at 5000rpms, completely disabled. i told tvt about this back before he changed his name (i think he was stallion) and again after. i applaud his tenacity but i think he would do himself a lot of favors by asking SI to help him with this.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2009 | 09:16 AM
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Its not a matter of doing it, its a matter of doing it without soldering wires on the ecu. To me that is not a viable solution for 99 percent of the people out there. My goal is to find a solution that my customers can use as well. I applaud SI for figuring this out, but I would not suggest for a customer to repeat it.

Right now the closest thing we have that is user friendly is pulling the fuses. I'm confident that no permanent damage can be done this way and anyone can do it.

If we were that concerned about eliminating it there are numerous ways of going about it that are not user friendly, but that's not how we want to help the community.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TVT_DESIGN
Finally have some dyno results.

Car put down 192 RWHP on the dyno we use. As a comparison we tested a headers, exhaust, UD pullies, injectors, tune, and intake car and it put down 156 RWHP on the same dyno.

What does this mean? Nothing really, except that the Stage 2 mani and heads do add significant power.

We will be doing a more radical cam that will be ready in 2 mos. We are limiting production to 15 units. First come, first served.

192 RWHP is low. This tells me it's about 225 at the engine. Not much more than stock.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TVT_DESIGN
Finally have some dyno results.

Car put down 192 RWHP on the dyno we use. As a comparison we tested a headers, exhaust, UD pullies, injectors, tune, and intake car and it put down 156 RWHP on the same dyno.

What does this mean? Nothing really, except that the Stage 2 mani and heads do add significant power.

We will be doing a more radical cam that will be ready in 2 mos. We are limiting production to 15 units. First come, first served.
Do you have the dyno sheets to back this up?
 

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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 09:26 AM
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^^^ Thank you for speaking up, I was thinking the same thing. I am all for modding the car, but bang for your buck must still be there - to some degree.....
 
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 10:19 AM
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Very hard to compare results from different dynos. We've had many customers put down 215 RWHP or more with just injectors, tune, and intake. One had 221 RWHP with the addition of a cat back exhaust and under drive pulleys.

A dyno is a tool used to measure the delta in a car's mods. It is not a tool that is scaled equally across all units and thus can be compared as such.

I'll post up my nearly stock (just exhaust) dyno graph and show you 190+ RWHP. Is that to say all mods from every company reduce power? Or that each dyno is different?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 06:45 PM
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Regarding TVT's remark about dynos not being equal etc, read the following article:
The Truth About Dynamometers
 
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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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Anthony,

Do you have the 74mm throttle body for sale? Please let me know.
Thanks,
 
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 12:54 AM
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So Finally got the Dynolicious App and used it on my car. Took a little tinkering to get it to work right, you have to know the weight on your car down to the exact pound or the measurement is way off. But anyways, did three runs after i got it running right. The read outs where,
271.51hp@5890 and 238ft/lbs@5661
283.33hp@5930 and 241ft/lbs@5753
277.67hp@5900 and 239ft/lbs@5697
Which gave me a average of 277.50hp and 239ft/lb
I did it at sea level and the outside temp was 58 degrees. i would say perfect conditions
You can read what mods i have in my signature, I think that with headers and a pulley 300hp is possible.
(oh and this was done with the MB cover intake, not the WAY better flowing 3'' intake from TVT)
 

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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 07:01 PM
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i just purchased this app. how did you mount the storm?
 
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