Is there a possibiity that there is no power to be made in that area? Exhaust mods give us virtually no power and perhaps several companies have stepped up, and scrapped the job because there were no gains. Just because the SC and TT motors love them, doesn't mean they will react the same with our motors, IIRC they see decent gains with custom exhaust components as well.

 

Supersprint markets headers for the R171 but shows a very modest gain for over $2,000...

Supersprint North America : Headers

Nothing for R170.

The Eurocharged C32 headers yield great gains, but we've never really been able to utilize them because of the directions the collectors point. C32 headers point outward, SLK/Crossfire manifolds wrap around the rear of the motor. Why that makes a huge difference, is beyond me.

Les noticed a upper-RPM power increase with the NW downpipes, but a loss of torque.

This car, for whatever reason, simply doesn't respond like every other platform on earth LOL. Might have something to do with the 3-valve setup? Grasping for straws here....

 

So your telling me here, that short of the angle at the collector, those headers fit like they need to? Clear everything else in the compartment? I can't fathom them being that close and no one wanting to make that small adjustment. Any HP numbers with them?

 

Steve can tell you more specifics as he actually had the set in his possession... I simply recall "leaks" mentioned and SD said the header flange (near the cat) made contact with the transmission. Of course, SD never posted photo updates so all they told us was "we're not satisfied with the fit and finish, we're tweaking them". And nine months later, they inform the other forum that they have all projects cleared out and are ready to start a new gig for the M113 E55 guys.

Of course, you all witnessed the sh!tstorm that brewed as a result, and we eventually all got our money back. So, no harm other than a 3/4 a year wasted waiting on a "hope". Life goes on...

I'm like you though, I'm floored they were so close, yet so far away.

 

Mr. Mopar had a set of those headers and said they banged on everything no matter what he did so he pulled them off. 240 lost a bunch of torque removing all 4 cats. As for me and the NW downpipes, I gained a bunch of power up top, the torque ....... I don't have old low speed dyno sheets so I'm going by butt dyno numbers. Putting around at 1500 rpm and cracking the throttle results in lazier acceleration without the cats. At 2500 rpm I don't notice a difference. My peak HP numbers are higher than torque which could be the lack of cats, I don't know. I'm happy with the downpipes.

Les

 

Starting to see the picture here I think. Sounds like a complete tuned exhaust is required to make any type of real difference. Maybe MB did have this one right..as it could get within reason.

 

bump[QUObTE=bjames;683851]We have a betting pool on how many Horsepower the CF 1 will produce to the back wheels.
To the winner goes bragging rights and you better hope it's not me. I have no inside info. Not even what kind of Dyno they are using. Since we don't how many Dynos they are going to run, the highest Horsepower registered from Corky will mark the winner. My bet is 284.4 RWHP


Don't forget in order to have bragging rights you have to be on the list before it's Dyno'ed
Don't come around with a 2# brain pushing a 6# mouth telling us what you knew and how many builds you have been in..blah blah blah, if you don't have your bet in. Until then it's a free- for- all

Me 284.4
Mrmiata 293.7
MoparFreak69 302.7
jonctovar 317.99
05roadsterguy 300.0
sk8ejosh09 280 ish
Airscape 275.2
gunner1374 289
JHM2K 285+ - 1
velociabstrack 265.0
Tjb421 270
BoilerUpXFire 260
Osofast2 268
Choppy 250
Bigkid 292
dtinker 311
johnbook 255
onehundred80 165 or 170 or 175 or 180 or maybe 182 or maybe, Where were we, I forgot what I was doing humm?????
frankeyser 278.3
FUBU 192
Anybody not in, we have lots of time. Lots of you think we are near the end but here is my take on the time frame. We are still nowhere near starting up CR/1. Delivery date for CR/2 last estimate mid to early June ..this is either gone or coming, who knows. There is still tuning on CR/1 and the built on CR/2, time frame unknown depending on manpower being available for this job. Last month they said they would hopefully be driving within 15 days
Not even close. At least with CR/2 there will be CR/1 to reference from. Once it is completed they can start producing Kits to be shipped. Depending on manpower and availability , no one know when this will be. I'm thinking quite a few months away, I'm thinking 5 or 6. These are my guesstimates based on performance so far. This is more of a holistic look at the situation than a negative comment.

Mrmiata man superhero defender of Corky
Before you squeeze into your tights and get your cape on and zap over to your keyboard, Could you possibly get MY G.I. Joe Toy back from JHM2K.
(G.I .Joe from other post humor)[/QUOTE]

 

No need for the cape.. you actually commented quite maturely. I'm going to email John and see if he can just keep your G,I. Joe, looks like not having it around is finally making you grow up .

 

Imposter! Who are you and what have you done with Mrmiata man:

 

Zen class.. Learned to share my patience with turbo kits towards tolerance for the intolerable..

 

My head hurts

 

Your head hurts? Stick around this thread and we will finish the rest of you off.
Eric, I see you have a Turbo that puts out a stupid amount of HP, what got you down that road, what were you thinking. I would like to know more about it, I did a search but couldn't find too much. I think it is so cool that you even thought of this, never mind doing it.

 

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Mine was bhp...crank power

 

Yes jonctovar I see you put down BHP crank power. If you would like to tell me your WRHP horsepower guess I will change it for you. And save me from asking everybody else to change to BHP.

 

Got some exciting news, we may have a realistic date as to when they kits will be done..copy paste

The kit is under way. They have intercooler placement and design done. As well as some intercooler tubes. I am thinking it will be about 1 month before it is finished and another month after before kits start shipping. After the first round of kits, revisions to be made, and edits to instructions –I imagine another 6 weeks of the next batch of kits to go. Hope that helps,

 

Don't get excited ..read through the threads.. not one thing that they said would happen , has happened yet. Not one. Who sent you this and who's name was attached??

 

Yeah.. what He said.. and can you get that notarized and certified before you post it? Maybe a letter of authenticity (notarized of course) to accompany your post of it? And then can you prove it's actually you doing the posting and your account hasn't been hacked by a troll to get us natives in an uproar?

 

A little birdie told me....then I shot it with a .44 and ate it for dinner ....

 

PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!

 

Personally I am starting to get disappointed with a lack of any sort of photos. They have said several times pictures are on the way, and we have yet to see much of anything. I understand, and we don't need a professional photographer on site, but how ******* hard is it to post a picture once or twice a month? Now that progress is being made, it sure would be nice to see some of it, and keep it around for posteity sake, or all the people who come later and are going to ask lots of questions...

I have really tried to stay positive, and I can hopefully see a light at the end of the tunnel, but you have a group here that they stand to make $50k+ from and we can't even get an occasional picture? If I did this to my network customers, I would not be in business long.