Where can I get cold air intakes for my base model?

 

here,, and any thing you will ever need. once you are there click on limited, then click on intake. jim

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...64125504,d.cWc

 

That's crazy expensive. Is it worth it?

 

there have been a lot of people on here make their own,,, I made over 6000 intakes for the pt cruiser so I also make my own,, but could not get the performance from it that the Needswings does. they are teflon coated INSIDE and OUT so you gain hp and mpg.
I bought one from needswings for my v6 and had him make one for my V8 now that one was his first v8,, copyed of sorts from the v6. now you talk about cost that one was double + the cost of the v6 and WELL WORTH IT. jim

note ask the question ,,How many on here have the needswings intake?

 

The cold air intakes referenced are very nice . . . but are a waste of money that will not yield a single extra horsepower. How is that air going to be colder than air comes through the tubes that are at the grille?

 

There are plenty of members here who will gladly disagree with your statement.

 

.... You do realize air temperature is not the only thing that contributes to power gains when talking about intakes? Even if it were the only factor you would still make gains with the NW intakes. There are plenty of dyno results that show nice gains with intakes on our engines as the stock setups are restrictive.

If I had an SRT I would go with at least a NW single. Dual is debatable $/hp wise, there is more flow but not double like the price. NA is never going to get big power, if you want every last horse than a NW single would probably be best. The larger MB box is cheaper and gives good gains though while retaining a stock look, this is a good route if your an NA and are not concerned with getting every last drop of performance out.

 

LOL really LOL
I am guessing you have never owned or cared to own a performance car.

To you and most people, a car is something to go from point to point,,,where as for the rest of us ! the car is the point jim

 

Having just installed a Needswing single CAI on a Limited NA I can tell you it is well worth the price. The car really woke up. You can definitely feel a difference. I agree, it is pricey, but then again it is IMHO the best designed CAI for the NA. Quality of parts was excellant and the installation was quick and easy.

 

Yes, the OEM setup pulls cold air from the front of the radiator just like the NW CAI does, but there are 2 differences :
1. The air has already passed through the filter and now has a straight shot to the throttle body with the CAI.
2. The CAI is not acting like a big ole heat sink sitting on top of the engine, the IAT's are much lower at the IAT/MAF sensor just before the throttle body resulting in a denser air charge to the combustion chambers.
( and 3. it looks cool - I hate the later years trend of covering up engines with plastic goo-gaw )

 

And last but not least.. you open up the area at the radiator support where the OEM tubes hook up by removing those plastic pieces and passing the 3" ish hose through. Just pull your tubes loose and see how restrictive that is.

 

@Indelibility; They can disagree all they want. Many people hold non-factual beliefs.
@Airscape: Show me those "plenty of dyno results". I could see some potential gains on a warmed over SRT. Maybe.
@amx1397: Don't let my screen name fool you. You guessed wrong. More than a few over the years. Don't mistake your assumption for a fact based conclusion. I have a NA 6-speed Crossfire right now.
@green24u: Feeling a difference is subjective, dyno results are objective.
@ala_xfire:the As long as the OE setup is not restrictive none of that matters, that funky engine top box is separating quite well from the engine though some heat soak will effect both systems. I agree they do look cool.
@ MRmiata. Convoluted tubing is more restrictive than smooth though if the system as a whole is not restrictive it's pointless changing anything.


See

 

In other words.. you didn't look.. close enough... next.

 

Yeah I know what you are referring to at the rad support area. "Seeing" and "Feeling" and "Thinking" something is restrictive is not an objective statement of fact. Dyno results showing any cold air setup does anything would be the opposite of subjective.

 

Really.. you don't even understand basic principles? As in bigger hole allows more air flow than a smaller one? Breath through a straw for 10 minutes and get back with us when you wake back up from passing out.

Here lets make this simple.. keep your stock intake.. be happy.. and go find a stereo thread to tutor on.. see how easy that works.. no one here is obligated to prove anything to you. Maybe you can do some research of your own.. there are threads in here with dyno pulls.

 

I certainly understand what you are saying, you don't to simplify it for me, but if it helps you . . .ok.
Breathing through a straw would restrict the air intake potential for a human. A larger diameter straw would definitely help. If a 3 inch diameter straw were large enough to be non restrictive would a 4 inch straw help?
No of course it wouldn't, though you seen to think it would.
The same goes for an engine. The engines ultimate demand for air in finite, not infinite, if the OEM air intake system is not restrictive at the max operating RPM of the engine why would you make it bigger exactly?

A restrictive air intake system on any internal combustion engine would restrict the air intake potential and ultimate power potential of said engine.
You're assuming, guessing, feeling that the OEM air intake system on a NA Crossfire is restrictive. You have no data to substantiate (prove) that contention.
I say the the OEM air intake system on a NA Crossfire is not restrictive and installing a "cold air intake" will do squat for power.
I don't know about your stereo tangent, did you take the right meds today?

Saw some dyno posts, didn't see **** addressing any alleged restrictive OEM air intake VS a "cold air intake" comparisons.

 

After installing the v8 box,tubes and K&Ns my ultraguage readings for the MAF increased across the entire RPM range. More air = more power, this is fact. The engine can and will take in more air in than the stock setup allows. You are making the assumption that the stock air box is able to flow more air than the engine could use and without restriction. Changing out the stock filters alone will prove that to be false as you will get more air. Step up to the NW dual on an NA and you have an argument, that setup has the capacity to supply more air than the NA can use effectively without mods.

While I admit dyno results for an NA with only a CAI and no other mods is hard to find there are still some out there. Searching needswings intake dyno in google will give you a number of results for crossfires and other mercedes v6. The supercharged versions see more HP from the mod than the NA but it is still a good amount of power/$ considering the few options we have.

 

a engine is a air pump, the more air you can get in and out ,the more power it will make, yet the smaller the engine (like in the u tube video) the less to none it will make, also if the factory has done their homework and made the intake to flow all the air the engine can take then a aftermarket intake will do nothing.
I made and now Needswings makes a intake for the PT Cruiser Turbo, it increases the hp by 2 to 3 hp,but that same intake just clamped on a V8. (which we did ,increased by 17 hp) K&N advertizes 20 hp on a chevy 350 but that same intake on a 454 they ad. 34 hp.or there about,, this is over stock.

some real data to think about, both HP and MPG,,,,, Data from over 1000 SRT 6 owners.
The srt6 stock is ok _____about 330 hp& mpg
with K&N filters is better ____about 332 hp,,mpg+1
the 55 intake is even better____about 335 hp,,,mpg +2
the Needswings single is way better___about 339 hp,,, mpg +4
the Needswings duel is the BEST_____about 340,,,,mpg +4 to 5

some one can post the data showing the Na, as i don't have that but am sure it is very close to the above. jim

 

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The stock NA intake is such a HORRIBLE design I seriously can't stop laughing. Thanks ZX2 Nick. You seriously made my day hahahahahahahahah