Crossfire. A cross to me is more like a " + " sign than an " X ". Cross-hairs are horizontal and vertical, not diagonal like an X. Can someone explain?

James

 

idk.
Kind of like Christmas, people put 'x-mas'. Which bugs me.
Christ -> Cross
Cross -> x
Cross = +
So I don't know either, James. Good question.

 

because hate typing things they feel are long multiple times. the shift and = just to get a + would be to much work, and xfire is much shorter

my guess haha but im just as lost as you, i think its better than calling our car an XF which is a jaguar

 

X is used for "cross" on traffic signs. Not a religious symbol it is the intersection or "crossing" point. Sign examples are

PED XING (PEDESTRIAN CROSSING)
RAILWAY XING
DEER XING
ETC.

There is a story that the "Cross" in Crossfire is symbolized on the side of the car where the two horizontal planes intesect (cross) on the door forming a X (cross).

 

OH CRAP.....if this changes now we will have a lot of bogus license plates on our cars.......

 

I felt the same way as you James, hence the screen name (+fireamx), but after doing a little research (looking it up in the dictionary) turns out +, X, even the letter "t" (when displayed like the Crucifix) all are considered a "CROSS".

 

This is the way I see it.

FWIW

 

Anyone ever ask you if you like your jaguar? LOL

 

It's also used in "Xtal", meaning "crystal" which is a bit different again...it's almost like we could call them a Xsler Xfire...

 

Historically, the original cross was an X, as in pictograms from neanderthal drawings and the like. The upright symetrical cross was used also, but as someone pointed out, the X was a universal sign of a crossing, whereas the symetrical + was meant as something else, an early sun sign, that transmuted to the "swastika" design for the sun.

Even the Romans got into the act, when they strung up prisoners they would make the X out of lumber and the prisoner would be splayed out on the X with all four limbs, where they were generally shot full with arrows as a target and then left to die. It was easier to build than the tree Cross depicted on crucifixions, as they didn't have to dig a hole to plant the one main support. Just needed a support in the back. Over time they got the idea of the upright cross that we all know, that would be more cruel and punishing and hence serve their purpose better. And now when we think of cross we mainly see the picture in our mind of the Christian version, and that is more cultural than anything. Another culture would more easily picture the X when the hear the word cross. A little known fact, there, Normie.

 

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Originally Posted by mdaniels4

Historically, the original cross was an X, as in pictograms from neanderthal drawings and the like. The upright symetrical cross was used also, but as someone pointed out, the X was a universal sign of a crossing, whereas the symetrical + was meant as something else, an early sun sign, that transmuted to the "swastika" design for the sun.

Ouch! My poor little head. Not so early in the morning!

 

Well, Chevy has it's crossfire injection, and there is a crossfire snowmobile...so I don't know how MB+Chrysler came up with "XF"....maybe someone should ask the inventor...designer...

 

because they didn't want to call it AMX because to many people would think it of being a rambler but if you look at the specs of the AMX and the crossfire you would wonder why they didn't name it the AMX. read this
That would be the 1968=60 and 70 amx/----2004-2008 crossfire
and BY xfireamx
Can You Identify theses 2 Cars? - 11-25-2005 , 04:21 PM




_________________________1968 AMX_________2004 Crossfire__________

Seating Capacity______________2___________________2_______ _________

Wheel Base__________________97"_________________94.5"___ __________

FR.Track____________________59.7"________________5 8.3"_____________

R.Track_____________________57.0"________________5 8.2"_____________

Length______________________177.2"_______________1 59.8"____________

Height______________________51.7"________________5 1.4"_____________

Ground Clearance____________5.29"________________4.9"____ __________

Curb Weight________________3035 lbs._____________3084 lbs.__________

Weight Distribution F/R,%_____57/43________________54/46_____________

Trunk Space cu.ft.____________9.6__________________7.6________ ______

Turns Lock to Lock____________3.8__________________3.1__________ ____

Turning Circle________________33.5'_________________32.9__ ___________

Engine Compression Ratio______10.2:1________________10.0:1__________

SAE. H.P.____________________225__________________215__ ___________

Frontal Area sq.ft.____________20.6__________________20.6______ ______

Final Drive Ratio_____________3.15:1________________3.27:1____ _______

Body Construction____________Unitized_______________Uni tized_________

Steering___________________recirculating ball________recirculating ball___

Braking 60-0 m.p.h.__________115'__________________114'________ _____

Automatic Trans. Performance__Motor Trend____________Motor Trend_____
30 m.p.h.___________________2.9 sec.________________2.5 sec.________
60 m.p.h.___________________6.9 sec.________________7.1 sec.________
1/4 mile time & speed_______15.2 sec. 92 mph._____ 15.18 sec. 96 mph._

Manual Trans. Performance____Car & Driver____________Car & Driver_____
30 m.p.h.___________________1.9 sec.________________2.1 sec.________
40 m.p.h.___________________3.1 sec.________________3.5 sec.________
50 m.p.h.___________________4.5 sec.________________4.7 sec.________
60 m.p.h.___________________6.6 sec.________________6.5 sec.________
70 m.p.h.___________________8.5 sec.________________8.2 sec.________
80 m.p.h.___________________10.7 sec._______________10.2 sec._______
90 m.p.h.___________________13.5 sec._______________13.1 sec._______
100 m.p.h.__________________16.3 sec._______________16.1 sec._______
1/4 mile time & speed_______14.8 sec. 95 mph._________14.8 sec. 96 mph_

Modified AMX vs SRT-6_____13.18 sec. 107 mph.______13.3 sec. 107.5 mph___



Last edited by +fireamx : 11-26-2005 at 06:28 PM .

 

Here you go:

Chrysler Crossfire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And you know-if you read it in Wiki, you can take it to the bank!

 

Wouldn't a "+" sign make it a Plusfire? I like the x, myself. Rusty...

 

I guess you've never seen the "Red Cross" logo.
American Red Cross: DONATE NOW!

 

The word xfire looks cooler than +fire.

I like the idea that it mimics the "x" on the side of the car.

 

I believe that the Xfire abbreviation originated on this forum. I remember a thread from very early on where we discussed what we should use. It came down to XF and xfire. Xfire just became the dominate usage. If I weren't so lazy I'd search for that original thread. Don't recall +fire ever being offered as a choice. Looks goofy to me.

 

In my #6 post I pointed out that the letter X, a + sign, and a lower case letter t can all be considered a cross according to Websters.
I don't believe anybody here is suggesting we start referring to the Crossfire as a +fire.
I thought it was a given that the Crossfire was called a CROSSfire because of the two body lines intersecting on the door of the car. (Maybe everybody didn't get the memo).
I fully agree an X does look cooler, (Malcom+) just wouldn't have made quite the impact.
In Chi-town, +fire may look goofy, but maybe it was just my Catholic upbringing that made me choose my screen name, who knows. But I'll bet if you give 100 random people a piece of paper (in this culture) and ask them to draw a cross on it, you'll wind up with a + more often than X everytime. (Except on Jay Walking).
For the record, I've owned 37 cars that ended in the letter "X" (useless info for sure) but I was the first to "rebadge" their Crossfire as an "X" too.
Except for Jim in Florida, I don't know anybody else who has.

 

Wow, don't we all just love our little red headed stepchildren?

Like everyone has an a$$hole, we all have opinions. While not necessarily expressed with hurtful intent, because our babies seem to bring our emotions to the surface, we sometimes take comments personally.

To keep this from happening, I propose we choose an unpronounceable symbol to represent "the car formerly known as XFire." LMAO