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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Learnin
Well, since everyone seems to be jumping on Black, I'm going to come to his defense. The media wants disaster. I'm not talking about government agencies that provide warnings and information about approaching storm systems. I'm talking about the media which have news reporters standing out in a 80 mph wind all the while pleading with people to please stay indoors. The 24 hour/7 days per week news media needs disaster! It needs economic disaster, weather disaster, natural disaster or terrorist attack (or a presidential debate) in order to keep the ratings up. The media provokes unnecessary panic.

Some posters have mentioned 40 deaths due to this storm. This storm traveled up the most populous real estate in this country. Forty deaths? As someone mentioned, many of these are due to complete foolishness on the part of human beings. In almost every place I watched the media reporting from, there were people walking along the streets, along the beaches or cars traveling down the roads. These were doing the very same thing the media reporters were doing, trying to see some disaster.

The biggest threat, of this weak hurricane, was rain and falling trees. So what to do? If you live in a house that is surrounded by large trees, you might want to go some place else. If you live on the shore, at sea level, you might want to go somewhere above sea level which is not surrounded by large trees. If you live on a creek, you might want to go elsewhere. Common sense.

I live in tornado alley and I appreciate the early warning weather systems in place. But the media was chomping at the bit for a humdinger hurricane since it had been three years...
Biggest threat of this hurricane seems to be the aftermath flooding. Same as Katrina. Those who left the lowlands as requested and advised by the government and the overbearing news, are safe today.

As thirteen mentions, the rest are waiting, cold wet and hungry, for helos from the national guard.

How clear does the lesson need to be?


 

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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Learnin
Well, since everyone seems to be jumping on Black, I'm going to come to his defense. The media wants disaster. I'm not talking about government agencies that provide warnings and information about approaching storm systems. I'm talking about the media which have news reporters standing out in a 80 mph wind all the while pleading with people to please stay indoors. The 24 hour/7 days per week news media needs disaster! It needs economic disaster, weather disaster, natural disaster or terrorist attack (or a presidential debate) in order to keep the ratings up. The media provokes unnecessary panic.

Some posters have mentioned 40 deaths due to this storm. This storm traveled up the most populous real estate in this country. Forty deaths? As someone mentioned, many of these are due to complete foolishness on the part of human beings. In almost every place I watched the media reporting from, there were people walking along the streets, along the beaches or cars traveling down the roads. These were doing the very same thing the media reporters were doing, trying to see some disaster.

The biggest threat, of this weak hurricane, was rain and falling trees. So what to do? If you live in a house that is surrounded by large trees, you might want to go some place else. If you live on the shore, at sea level, you might want to go somewhere above sea level which is not surrounded by large trees. If you live on a creek, you might want to go elsewhere. Common sense.

I live in tornado alley and I appreciate the early warning weather systems in place. But the media was chomping at the bit for a humdinger hurricane since it had been three years...
Thank you. That is all I am trying to say. The media is out of hand. And if you want to be safe then take precaution. Look at your home and potential dangers. If you have an old tree that might fall on your house then maybe you should evacuate. But don't blindly evacuate because you were told to. Use judgement. That is all I am saying. God gave each person a brain. Use it. Don't rely on the media or government to tell you what to do. Use your brains and make your own decision. That is all I am saying... And was saying until people twisted all of this around to make me a bad guy.
 

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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by blackcrossfire07
Yesterday , 06:53 PM
I am done. No more posts for me on this subject.
And then you continued all day today.....
Today , 10:22 AM
Today , 01:24 PM
Today , 02:50 PM
Today , 04:12 PM
Today , 06:57 PM
Today , 07:02 PM
 

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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 08:44 PM
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Today, I helped clean up a friends house in a neighborhood that had over 3 feet of water on the first floor of many homes. The whole town is devastated. The neighborhood is in shock and I just wanted to sit and cry for these people. So sad.

I know some here probably don't care to hear this, would much rather argue about stupid crap and try to convince each other how intelligent they are, but judging from the title of this thread I thought some would actually care what some of their fellow Americians are dealing with right now.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TiredRetired
Today, I helped clean up a friends house in a neighborhood that had over 3 feet of water on the first floor of many homes. The whole town is devastated. The neighborhood is in shock and I just wanted to sit and cry for these people. So sad.

I know some here probably don't care to hear this, would much rather argue about stupid crap and try to convince each other how intelligent they are, but judging from the title of this thread I thought some would actually care what some of their fellow Americians are dealing with right now.


So sorry for your troubles and that of you friends.
New Hampshire hasn't been in the news but...we still have not heard from GreenGhost. Do you have any scope on that region?
 
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TiredRetired
Today, I helped clean up a friends house in a neighborhood that had over 3 feet of water on the first floor of many homes. The whole town is devastated. The neighborhood is in shock and I just wanted to sit and cry for these people. So sad.

I know some here probably don't care to hear this, would much rather argue about stupid crap and try to convince each other how intelligent they are, but judging from the title of this thread I thought some would actually care what some of their fellow Americians are dealing with right now.
......Agreed.
Nice of you for helping those in their time of need.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
So sorry for your troubles and that of you friends.
New Hampshire hasn't been in the news but...we still have not heard from GreenGhost. Do you have any scope on that region?
Thanx Franc. We were very lucky, as we live on higher ground away from any streams or rivers. Some of our friends, not so much. The ones today are the hardest hit.

New Hampshire, it is my understanding, fared much better than Vermont. Less rain and wind. Where does he live in NH and I will try to get some info? I would be glad to do what I can.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SparkieSRT6
......Agreed.
Nice of you for helping those in their time of need.
Thanx, but I'll tell you Sparkie, seeing it on TV is one thing, but being in the trenches talking with the victims is another. It just breaks your heart. My friend's neighbor and his wife are in their 80's and they don't know what they are going to do. Both their children lost everything as well. Gut wrenching stuff. My wife and I went home and counted our blessings.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 09:23 PM
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Much of the problem is a result of the local governments allowing building on flood plains. This results in people who bragged about living on a lovely river finding the river flowing through their kitchen one day.
The flood may only occur once in fifty years but if you are living there at the time ........
 
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TiredRetired
Thanx, but I'll tell you Sparkie, seeing it on TV is one thing, but being in the trenches talking with the victims is another. It just breaks your heart. My friend's neighbor and his wife are in their 80's and they don't know what they are going to do. Both their children lost everything as well. Gut wrenching stuff. My wife and I went home and counted our blessings.
Your story brings back the memories of the three river flood here in '93. Six long hot weeks of sandbagging......

GreenGhost lives in Somersworth NH. About half way up the state from MA and on the border with Vermont at the Salmon river.
 

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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
Your story brings back the memories of the three river flood here in '93. Six long hot weeks of sandbagging......

GreenGhost lives in Somersworth NH. About half way up the state from MA and on the border with Vermont at the Salmon river.
Franc, Somersworth NH is actually 40 miles or so east of Concord, right on the border with Maine. This article states that Somersworth fared well with no flooding.

Somersworth Newswire - Topix
 
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TiredRetired
Franc, Somersworth NH is actually 40 miles or so east of Concord, right on the border with Maine. This article states that Somersworth fared well with no flooding.

Somersworth Newswire - Topix
You're right. It has been some time since I was there. Like 20 years.

Then he must be suffering a long power outage. it's simply not like him to be away from the shout box for long.
 

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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 09:56 PM
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OK, I see where Green was on today around 4:00 this afternoon. He just didn't post anything.


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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 10:11 PM
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Good. Happy ending.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by blackcrossfire07
Sometimes the safest place to be when mother nature strikes is in your home. You know what a home is right? It is called a shelter! Unless your home is 20 feet from the ocean (not the bay) then you must leave. Otherwise your home is the safest place to be in a hurricane. This is what I have been trying to say from the start!
Given that homes can get damaged or destroyed in a hurricane, the safest place to be in a hurricane is somewhere where the hurricane isn't. That's what the evacuation orders were trying to say from the start.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
You're right. It has been some time since I was there. Like 20 years.

Then he must be suffering a long power outage. it's simply not like him to be away from the shout box for long.
Yep, Somersworth is right on the border of ME/NH with Berwick on the Maine side and the salmon falls river runs along the border to Great Bay. It's 20 miles or so north of Portsmouth and the seacoast. We used to have a lakefront home a bit north of Somersworth. Nice area. My oldest son was born in Dover, the town next door. I can't imagine much damage there. The salmon falls river is dam controlled. Dover may have had some damage with the storm surge in Great Bay. Lots of homes right on the water there.
 
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