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Old Jun 16, 2012 | 08:35 PM
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Default Uh, does this eBay product look "new" to you?

I've just been had. Unfortunately I didn't know about the service manual already being posted on the site so I ordered a CD copy for myself, and it just came in the mail. The seller listed it as "new", tell me, what looks "new" about this package?

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I'll be contacting eBay and PayPal if he doesn't get back to me by Monday, what a bunch of bs. So much for his 100% buyer feedback

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2005 Crossfire Chrysler ZH Service-Shop Manual +PartList (Workshop-Repair) on CD | eBay
 
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Old Jun 16, 2012 | 08:45 PM
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Yeah you got taken. It was pretty much what he advertized though. You'll go through a lot of headache to address this and will most likely lose, I suggest you use this as a learning moment and let it go.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2012 | 08:57 PM
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In the ad: "100% Virus Free Burned CD"

Open and shut case. Move on.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2012 | 08:59 PM
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Nothing but fail here, I would go ahead & dispute it

**Nevermind I just read the ad**

Sorry though man
 
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Old Jun 16, 2012 | 09:09 PM
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No way will this be let go. The ad says Condition: New. A new what? Burned CD?!

Sorry, had to vent. But this will get disputed to the fullest.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2012 | 10:18 PM
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Default Re: Uh, does this eBay product look "new" to you?

They Got Ya!! Have you veiwed the copy quality? If it's good quality,How much do you want for it? Squirrel Crusher
 
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Old Jun 16, 2012 | 11:00 PM
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They Got Ya!! Have you veiwed the copy quality? If it's good quality,How much do you want for it? Squirrel Crusher
The same quality that's in the SRT forum, lol.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2012 | 11:09 PM
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The ad said it was a burned CD. I image he will return your 25 bucks just to save his rep. Sounds like you found out after the fact you could get it for free on site and got a case of buyers remorse. Next time read the ad and if you can't comprehend the words get some help.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2012 | 11:22 PM
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I don't see how you feel you got taken. You received everything advertised. You didn't read the fine print.

Inform the seller you would have never bought a copy of the software if you realized it was illegally copied. Mention copyright infringement and he will probably give you your money back and tell you to keep the CD. A similar thing happened to me over some music CDs off eBay. The seller didn't disclose it was copied in the listing. He promptly refunded my money.

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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike1118
The ad said it was a burned CD. I image he will return your 25 bucks just to save his rep. Sounds like you found out after the fact you could get it for free on site and got a case of buyers remorse. Next time read the ad and if you can't comprehend the words get some help.
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I don't see how you feel you got taken. You received everything advertised. You didn't read the fine print.

Inform the seller you would have never bought a copy of the software if you realized it was illegally copied. Mention copyright infringement and he will probably give you your money back and tell you to keep the CD. A similar thing happened to me over some music CDs off eBay. The seller didn't disclose it was copied in the listing. He promptly refunded my money.

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You don't make an ad stating "Item Condition: New" and "Condition: New: A brand-new, unused, unopened, undamaged item in its original packaging (where packaging is applicable). Packaging should be the same as what is found in a retail store, unless the item was packaged by the manufacturer in non-retail packaging, such as an unprinted box or plastic bag. See the seller's listing for full details." To me, a new burned CD disc is simply that, a new OEM disc. What's not stated is that he just burned the OEM CD an is selling home made copies, where's that in the fine print? And if he's stating New condition, why would he write "One used CD disc" on the package?

There is no buyers remorse, only priniciple and fraud.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 01:35 AM
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I wish you luck. Like I said he has a rep.to protect. So I bet you'll get a refund. Somebody said to make this a life lesson. I agree. Technically everything he said was true. It doesn't matter what you think it should mean. SQ wanted to know how much you wanted for it. He may buy it. I just bought the hard copies of the repair manuels just because I wanted them. If it were me I for sure would not tell the whole world that I had been had. And to keep harping on it just makes you sound like a whiner. Again good luck. Remember my opinion doesn't really mean much.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 03:45 AM
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Full refund was issued this morning. Thanks
 

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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 08:49 AM
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Wow...not selling you any parts....lol Welcome to ebay... you will be wasting your time...I have never had any luck with them... Just ask for your money back, and I am sure he will refund it. I have to eat a part I just ordered because I didn't read the ad well enough. Sucks.... but my fault.... time to move on.... Besides, if that were Chrysler selling your that part, you would have to add a zero to it....
 
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 12:56 PM
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Default Re: Uh, does this eBay product look "new" to you?

Originally Posted by Indelibility
Full refund was issued this morning. Thanks
And you still have the product which is just as useable had it been what you perceived it to be. Congradulations.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 01:25 PM
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Default Re: Uh, does this eBay product look "new" to you?

This right here is the reason the whole world is turning into the sh!thole it is. No one takes responsibility for their actions and due diligence is a misnomer.

Read before buy : I sell a Digital File . Not the CD disc . The burned CD disc is the only way which allows the EBAY someone to sell a digital archive. That CD disc will be an "as home made" burned CD disc . The too small sales quantity does not permit industrial producted CD discs . You will receice a yellow envelope with a burned CD inside .
Cut and dry, you didn't read the auction. Finding out here that you could get it for free via the links in the various threads isn't an excuse for filing a claim against the seller with eBay or PayPal and you are using this as nothing more than a way to recompense your own lack of research. And as for the picture with "One used CD disc", if anything, the seller did you a favor by putting that on the packaging so you didn't get dinged for duties, taxes or import fees.

[END RANT]

Have a safe and happy fathers day!
 
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 01:35 PM
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Default Re: Uh, does this eBay product look "new" to you?

Originally Posted by rcompart
This right here is the reason the whole world is turning into the sh!thole it is. No one takes responsibility for their actions and due diligence is a misnomer.

Cut and dry, you didn't read the auction. Finding out here that you could get it for free via the links in the various threads isn't an excuse for filing a claim against the seller with eBay or PayPal and you are using this as nothing more than a way to recompense your own lack of research. And as for the picture with "One used CD disc", if anything, the seller did you a favor by putting that on the packaging so you didn't get dinged for duties, taxes or import fees.

[END RANT]

Have a safe and happy fathers day!
Was this notice in the ad originally? Or was it added after you objected?
 
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 02:33 PM
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Honestly this is probably the dumbest thing I've seen on this forum yet. I've made these mistakes too, but rather than contacting the seller demanding a refund, I ate the costs. I'm sure you also get pissed off at the officer for pulling you over for speeding as well. Even when you were doing 15 over it's still the cops fault.

What he is selling is a service. and used/new doesn't really matter. It's a burnt disc. BTW it us technically new. You are the first owner of the product.

*** Rant over
 
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by rcompart
This right here is the reason the whole world is turning into the sh!thole it is. No one takes responsibility for their actions and due diligence is a misnomer.

Cut and dry, you didn't read the auction. Finding out here that you could get it for free via the links in the various threads isn't an excuse for filing a claim against the seller with eBay or PayPal and you are using this as nothing more than a way to recompense your own lack of research. And as for the picture with "One used CD disc", if anything, the seller did you a favor by putting that on the packaging so you didn't get dinged for duties, taxes or import fees.

[END RANT]

Have a safe and happy fathers day!
Uh, look at the revision date and time. He just added that this morning after we talked for a bit. He explained everything clearly to me, and told me about the "used cd disc" shipping, etc. The transfer and miscommunication is over, he updated his ad and was nice enough to refund me. This has nothing to do with the file being on the forum.

Anyways, the seller cleared up his ad, I learned a lesson. Why this is still being "ranted" over is beyond me.

Happy Fathers day
 

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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 05:46 PM
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Default Re: Uh, does this eBay product look "new" to you?

In the original ad it clearly said that you would be receiving a "burned CD". It didn't say it was a factory sealed disc. It was your fault for not reading the ad and you got your money back. Consensus on this site is that you didn't read the ad well enough and still ended up getting what you wanted. It's being "ranted" on because you aren't listening to what people are saying and placing full blame on the seller.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 06:04 PM
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Nevermind. .....
 

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