Hi I just bought a 2005 Crossfire from my friend, it's the base model, love it, perfect condition, he up kept everything well and on time, has 117,000 miles on it, and the miles are 90% highway miles, I had a question I was looking at the euro charge tune, would you guys recommend that or do you guys think the cars engine is to old at this point for that?

 

117K is half its life...maybe longer. In fact, it a great time to look at plugs, plug wires, fluid changes, and then....a eurocharged tune...

 

Ok thankyou, will do, one of my friends kept insisting that the crossfires engine was to old, but he's got a 2013 Dodge Dart 2.0 and thinks he can make it beat a Crossfire in a race, I figured he was blowing smoke. Thanks again.

 

Just make sure to bring it up date if your friend didn't. Meaning tranny fluid, if an auto, plugs should have been changed at a 100k if hadn't performed that service. Wires should probably at least be looked at, but with those miles I would replace them. The rest is common sense, as far as air filters, and such. Cold air intake upgrade will help as well if you want to go aftermarket. Just do all those things before the tune.... You don't want to have to go back and tune it again, although it would be free....good luck...welcome aboard. Don't know much about the 2.0 Darts...but, racing is fun, and winning is even better...

 

Alright, cool, thanks, yeah the dart is 160 hp and 148 to and it does the 1/4 mile in 16.8 stock, he's got a tune and a pulley in it, his own "custom air intake" so he probably added 43hp maybe, but he's still got a ways to go. The only upgrade the Crossfire has is K&N air filter, but I plan to add a few more upgrades after I check out the plugs, wires and fluids.

 

He isn't going to like losing to such an "old" car....lol....

 

Haha yeah, and I don't think the dart can fit anything else in it like a supercharger, But I really like the Crossfire, Huge upgrade over my contour, I will have to get used to the smaller windows on it, it's technically my first car that I've ever owned, in my name, but it is nice to have the fastest car out of all your friends, then people want a ride in it haha, really looking forward to taking it to the cruise.

 

Welcome to the forum Justin, and congrats on your purchase. I have an 02 Honda with over 206,000 miles on it, so I wouldn't worry much about a well taken care of Mercedes engine.
Your friends Dart has a Fiat engine.....nuff said.
For a big performance increase, I'd suggest a NeedsWings CAI. Not cheap, but is a proven 4/10's of a second improvement over stock. You may want to practice a little bit with your 6-speed before racing anybody. (It takes some getting use to).
Enjoy.

 

Welcome from MI, where are you?

 

Thanks, did you put the need swing on yourself?

 

I'm from the dearborn area.

 

Congrats on acquiring the 2005 Base Coupe. These are great cars & you'll really enjoy the performance.

Later,

 

Justin, I don't even have one but many here have done the installation themselves.
I don't drag race anymore and the "stock" Crossfire performance is just fine with me. But the NeedsWings performance is well documented here on the forum, and anything that can knock off nearly a 1/2 sec. in the 1/4 mile is well worth it. That's why it's the 1st. mod I tell everybody to make when ever they're looking for higher performance.

 

He has a base model.. not a 6. The tune would be at the top of my list personally. Below is from Needswing under SRT6 add...


Our original Cold Air Intake Kit is a beautiful piece, customers have seen up to 35whp gains and 0.2-0.3 tenths improvement in their ¼ mile ET’s.

 

I did the Needswings install on mine myself. The biggest pain in the butt was removing the powersteering fluid connector at the unit. The rest of the install wasn't too bad. I did the eurocharge tune first, waited 2 years and installed the Needswings Dual CAI and then did the free retune. I wouldn't wait on the tune if I were you. I'd do it first unless you know for sure you are going to do the Needswings CAI sooner rather than later. The tune is well worth it IMO. Made a big difference in feel and response. Lot's of info and support on here for both mods. Good luck

 

Mr. M, I'm going simply by what 1/4 mile results I've read here on the forum. Gary's times were just under a 1/2 sec. improvement with his automatic, and no other changes except the NW CAI (if I remember correctly). Steve noticed the same improvement on his 6 spd. roadster, and I think I've read about other's who had similar results as well.
I know the CAI costs more than the tune, but I think it offers greater (stand alone) results. Of course, installing both is the best way to go.
If I cared about drag racing, I'd have both mods on my car. But other than pulling hole shots on people at traffic lights, and having fun at the Dragon, my racing days are over.

 

Much like you - just having a little fun here and there is good for me. I've spent a little time looking for N/A "hardcore" performance gains from the intake and haven't seen any myself. Everything I've found just points to the 6. We all know the OEM is restrictive.. but testing on the N/A just doesn't seem to be any real priority. Even the 74mm TB upgrade comes with a decent guestimate and general consensus .

 

The only upgrade mine has is 2 K&Ns, and it does the 1/4 mile in 15.0 at least that's the best time it ever got, I'd like to do the needswing and the tune, but the needswing I may have to find someone to put it on.

 

The tune alledgedly ups the ponies by 24 hp. The DCAI by 16 hp. In my experience, the tune is not only the best bang for the buck but also demonstrates the best performance experience. The DCAI with the tune had definitetly increased the fun factor. It sucks air big time, and you can hear it. Those will be my only two performance mods. Other mods may help some more, but the return on the investments declines significantly and frankly, the car is just fine as it is. If I want more, I'll buy and SRT6. I don't race or drag mine either, I just have fun here and there and enjoy the drive. It will keep up or beat most things on the road as it is now, and it looks good doing it.

 

How bout lowering the low end gear ratio for more torque?