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Old 03-02-2018, 05:04 PM
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Hello all! I have owned my crossfire for a while now and I absolutely love driving it, however I know this car has potential to be a real sleeper for drag races and I want to try and maximize it as much as possible it’s an 05 base manual crossfire I have done a lot of exterior and interior work to it so it looks plenty fast but doesn’t quite act the part, I’ve looked for headers and supercharger kits, along with underdrive pulleys and other intake and exhaust systems, however it seems there are a lot of dead ends when looking for performance parts on this model vehicle and am wondering if any of you have any advice or ideas where I can search next! Thank you for taking the time to help!
 
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Old 03-02-2018, 09:18 PM
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U can buy my car,,or wait until july when i will have finished another V8 conversion (5.5 mercedes supercharges V8 ) like this one. https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...crossfire.html this car ibelongs to Jon, and is not for sale my car and the one that is in process is for sale , pm me for price ,,i will take a despoit on it if you or someone wants to lock it up.
you could go to needswings.com for performance parts for the limited,,just don't expect much increase in power. jim
 

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What's the average fee for V8 transplant?
 
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Originally Posted by Chayseschmidt
Hello all! I have owned my crossfire for a while now and I absolutely love driving it, however I know this car has potential to be a real sleeper for drag races and I want to try and maximize it as much as possible it’s an 05 base manual crossfire I have done a lot of exterior and interior work to it so it looks plenty fast but doesn’t quite act the part, I’ve looked for headers and supercharger kits, along with underdrive pulleys and other intake and exhaust systems, however it seems there are a lot of dead ends when looking for performance parts on this model vehicle and am wondering if any of you have any advice or ideas where I can search next! Thank you for taking the time to help!
The easiest conversion seems to be the 3.7 M112 from the ML350 W163 from 2003-2005. Straight swap (minus a fan clutch swap). No wiring needed or custom work or anything close to it (from what I have read). I plan on doing it in the future. The motors are super cheap at any junkyards. Extremely doable and cheap swap. One of the cheapest ever for a car.

This car in non-srt trim is not made for drag racing. They're not easy to mod for straight line speed. Buy an SRT6 for drag. The N/A is a tiny gt sports car with more grip and better weight distribution. The SRT6 is a tiny gt muscle car with power. To put a supercharger or turbo on the N/A you need a full stand alone ecu set up.
 

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The easiest conversion seems to be the 3.7 M112 from the ML350 W163 from 2003-2005. Straight swap (minus a fan clutch swap). No wiring needed or custom work or anything close to it (from what I read). I plan on doing it in the future. The motors are super cheap at any junkyards. Extremely doable and cheap swap. One of the cheapest ever for a car..
what he is not telling you is any srt 6 will be faster, get better gas mileage than a 3.7,, your V6 is a 3.2 ,, so yea go from a 3.2 to a 3.7 if you are going to swap do it with a 5.5 SC motor, on the aspirated 5.5 mercedes engine (non supercharged) a modded srt6 is still faster.
the fee would run what all you want done to the car, but average i would say close to 22000. engine tranny, brakes, new tires and about two months of good weather,, when my next one is finished,, gray srt ,,, turn key ready to drive 25000 that includes the car. no trade
 
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what he is not telling you is any srt 6 will be faster, get better gas mileage than a 3.7,, your V6 is a 3.2 ,, so yea go from a 3.2 to a 3.7 if you are going to swap do it with a 5.5 SC motor, on the aspirated 5.5 mercedes engine (non supercharged) a modded srt6 is still faster.
the fee would run what all you want done to the car, but average i would say close to 22000. engine tranny, brakes, new tires and about two months of good weather,, when my next one is finished,, gray srt ,,, turn key ready to drive 25000 that includes the car. no trade
The 3.7 swap is literally bolt on. The v8 is not. I was pointing out that the 3.7 is a cheap alternative to keep the weight distribution and curb weight of the car intact (to preserve it's sports car grip and nimbleness). The V8 won't keep the weight distribution intact and it will require a lot more work and possibly 5 to 10 times the money. Of course, if you want straight line speed and have a lot of time on your hands do whatever you want. The v8 will always be faster in a straight line. ABSOLUTELY. No one is stupid enough to doubt that. Personally the 3.7 would be enough for my daily driving. I had enough speeding tickets and trouble in my early years.
 

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I agree with some of the things you say,, the 3.7 bolt in and the 5.5 is about the same amount of work,once the needed part replacement on the engine is done, which is done with the engine is on the stand one thing both engines has to be changed is the oil pan to clear the steering. oil pump to clear the hood the only and best part is the 3.7 is a cheap engine the best thing to do is but a srt6


The E32 is a 3.2 L (3199 cc) version. Bore remains at 89.9 mm but the engine is stroked to 84 mm. Output is 218 hp ECE (160 kW) to 224 hp ECE (165 kW) at 5700 rpm with 315 Nm (232 ft.lbf) of torque at 3000-4800 rpm. It has fracture-split forged steel connecting rods.

Applications:

2000–2004 C320
1998–2004 E320
1997-200? G320
1998–2005 S320
1998–2003 ML320
1998–2005 CLK320
2000–2003 SLK320
2004–2008 Chrysler Crossfire

The C32 AMG is a special version of the 3.2 L (3199 cc) C320, fitted with a helical twin-screw supercharger and water-to-air intercooler. The supercharger was developed in conjunction with IHI and features Teflon-coated rotors producing overall boost of 14.5 psi (1 bar). Output is 354 hp ECE (260 kW) at 6100 rpm with 332 ft.lbf (450 Nm) of torque at 3000-4600 rpm.

Applications:

2001–2003 C32 AMG
2001–2003 SLK32 AMG
2005–2006 Chrysler Crossfire SRT-6

The E37 is a 3.7 L (3724 cc) version. It retains the 84 mm stroke of the E320 but is bored to 97 mm. Output is 235 hp ECE (173 kW) to 245 ECE (180 kW) at 5750 rpm with 254 ft.lbf (344 Nm) of torque at 3000-4500 rpm.

Applications:

2003–2005 ML350
2003–2006 S350
2003-2006 SL350
2006.11-? V350
 
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I agree with some of the things you say,, the 3.7 bolt in and the 5.5 is about the same amount of work,once the needed part replacement on the engine is done, which is done with the engine is on the stand one thing both engines has to be changed is the oil pan to clear the steering. oil pump to clear the hood the only and best part is the 3.7 is a cheap engine the best thing to do is but a srt6


The E32 is a 3.2 L (3199 cc) version. Bore remains at 89.9 mm but the engine is stroked to 84 mm. Output is 218 hp ECE (160 kW) to 224 hp ECE (165 kW) at 5700 rpm with 315 Nm (232 ft.lbf) of torque at 3000-4800 rpm. It has fracture-split forged steel connecting rods.

Applications:

2000–2004 C320
1998–2004 E320
1997-200? G320
1998–2005 S320
1998–2003 ML320
1998–2005 CLK320
2000–2003 SLK320
2004–2008 Chrysler Crossfire

The C32 AMG is a special version of the 3.2 L (3199 cc) C320, fitted with a helical twin-screw supercharger and water-to-air intercooler. The supercharger was developed in conjunction with IHI and features Teflon-coated rotors producing overall boost of 14.5 psi (1 bar). Output is 354 hp ECE (260 kW) at 6100 rpm with 332 ft.lbf (450 Nm) of torque at 3000-4600 rpm.

Applications:

2001–2003 C32 AMG
2001–2003 SLK32 AMG
2005–2006 Chrysler Crossfire SRT-6

The E37 is a 3.7 L (3724 cc) version. It retains the 84 mm stroke of the E320 but is bored to 97 mm. Output is 235 hp ECE (173 kW) to 245 ECE (180 kW) at 5750 rpm with 254 ft.lbf (344 Nm) of torque at 3000-4500 rpm.

Applications:

2003–2005 ML350
2003–2006 S350
2003-2006 SL350
2006.11-? V350
The specs of this motor are all over the place depending of the model. That's without any bolt on and tune so it's still a considerable upgrade to any n/a for a mere 550$ CND bolt in with no extensive work involved (again not worth it for drag racing, for drag racing buy an srt6). From what I have read it's the same oil pan. The fan from the 3.2 is the only thing that needs to be fitted to the 3.7. There is a lot more work involved with the v8 swap. It's not a weekend affair like the 3.7.

I know the specs of the SRT6. It's still heavier on the nose as would be a v8.
 

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