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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 01:10 AM
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Default Kleemann SLK32 AMG versus E92 M3...

The results may... surprise you.

Not the flogging everyone expects.

[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8R14a3xhWY&feature=related[/MEDIA]
 
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 02:18 AM
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Default Re: Kleemann SLK32 AMG versus E92 M3...

So what is in a "400 hp" Kleemann SLK32 AMG? The M3 is 414hp but 400 extra pounsd? So which way was the flogging supposed to be? Motor Trend has the M3 stock trapping about 111.

Also, how long was the race, and when did they let off? It looks like maybe just after the M3 passed, or was it at a different time?
 
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by billvp
So what is in a "400 hp" Kleemann SLK32 AMG?
Not as much as you may think. Kleeman rates the power on their cars at bhp instead of whp. There are MANY people on this forum running more than 400bhp on there SRT-6s.


FYI. bhp is horsepower measured at the crank, and whp is horsepower measured at the wheel. There is roughly a 20% loss on our drivetrains to go from bhp to whp. 400bhp = 333whp.

Definitely fun to watch the video though.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 08:56 AM
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Default Re: Kleemann SLK32 AMG versus E92 M3...

Zahanma is spot-on.

Many members here are putting down close to 350 RWHP with the Needswings parts and a tune...

That number would be WELL above the ~400 BHP which is what the SLK is the video is claiming to have.

I think it's interesting that the SLK gets a healthy jump on the M3 and keeps that distance until well north of 130mph. In other words, many SRT-6s on this forum would walk the new M3. The video tells the story; torque is your buddy. Honestly I think the SLK in the vid fell off due to IATs...

Note that the SLK in the video also has the Kleemann differential... I know that's a point of interest for many owners on here.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 09:31 AM
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Zahanma is spot-on.
Luv teh nuw avatarz. Haha grammar ***** is hilarious.



EDIT: Jeebus that really hurt writing that.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 09:52 AM
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Default Re: Kleemann SLK32 AMG versus E92 M3...

Originally Posted by ZAHANMA
EDIT: Jeebus that really hurt writing that.
I was about to say... I thought one of mrphotoman's aliases took over the keyboard for a second.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 09:55 AM
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Default Re: Kleemann SLK32 AMG versus E92 M3...

Thats a pretty interesting video. I raced a buddy with the new M3 in my SRT6 and had the same result. We went from 40mph and I jumped a car or two on him and held that lead until 120-130. He started to real me in and by 150, he had caught me. We let out of it and chuckled. Now I raced friends with modded ( basic tune / air boxes) C63s and 09 CTSV and they walked me from the start. I hung with the C63 by a car, but that caddy put a bus length on me with little effort.

Oh and....


 

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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 10:04 AM
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Thats a pretty interesting video. I raced a buddy with the new M3 in my SRT6 and had the same result. We went from 40mph and I jumped a car or two on him and held that lead until 120-130. He started to real me in and by 150, he had caught me. We let out of it and chuckled. Now I raced friends with modded ( basic tune / air boxes) C63s and 09 CTSV and they walked me from the start. I hung with the C63 by a car, but that caddy put a bus length on me with little effort.
I would hazard to say your SRT6 was one of the more potent ones on here... and yet you had similar results.

Do you think my original suspicion has something to do with it? (IATs)

In other words, the longer you stay in the top of the RPM range, the hotter the IATs and therefore the decrease in acceleration? Our overall gearing in these cars is very low... So I can't see the ratios playing with the outcome much.

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Default Re: Kleemann SLK32 AMG versus E92 M3...

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I would hazard to say your SRT6 was one of the more potent ones on here... and yet you had similar results.

Do you think my original suspicion has something to do with it? (IATs)

In other words, the longer you stay in the top of the RPM range, the hotter the IATs and therefore the decrease in acceleration? Our overall gearing in these cars is very low... So I can't see the ratios playing with the outcome much.
I think so, when these cars are boosting at 19lbs ( top of 3rd / 4th gear with a code 3) the IATs will start to rob HP. I think this plays a roll in the less is more approach I took. When 240M3SRT had his 185 pulley, he would jump me off the start, but I could real him in as the boost hit 22-24lbs in his and IATs grew.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BLKFIN
I think so, when these cars are boosting at 19lbs ( top of 3rd / 4th gear with a code 3) the IATs will start to rob HP. I think this plays a roll in the less is more approach I took. When 240M3SRT had his 185 pulley, he would jump me off the start, but I could real him in as the boost hit 22-24lbs in his and IATs grew.
Exactly. And considering that the M3 is N/A... makes perfect sense.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 09:59 PM
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I raced a blue one (no traffic of course) from 70 MPH to 160 MPH and kept him on my left rear quarter panel the entire run. I inititated so I got the jump on him - but I never pulled away from him and he never pulled up even with me.

Then again I consistantly make 360 - 365 RWHP (without NW components) and have zero IAT issues...

Don't know if he was modded or not but he gave me the thumbs up...
 
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