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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 08:40 PM
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Default Interest in turnkey SRT-6 powertrain package?

Limited owners, would there be interest in a complete SRT-6 powertrain conversion package?

I am talking a complete VIN matched set up including;
Motor
Transmission
Rear end
Intercooler, pump, reservoir
All VIN specific modules
SRT-6 specific wiring harneses
Even the remote for the key start (use your physical ignition cylinder and key blade)

Nuts, bolts, hoses, ALL the bits and pieces.

Is there interest?

It could even include a brake and suspension package.

Don't ask how much, just gauging interest if such a package would be desired (parts only).
 
Old Dec 20, 2011 | 09:05 PM
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Yes I'm interested.
 
Old Dec 20, 2011 | 09:47 PM
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Don't ask how much, just gauging interest if such a package would be desired (parts only).
It would totally depend on the price imho, if it were cheaper to just trade in for an srt6 it wouldn't make sense to me. I'd be more interested if it were a manual trans.
 
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It would totally depend on the price imho, if it were cheaper to just trade in for an srt6 it wouldn't make sense to me. I'd be more interested if it were a manual trans.
Doubtful the manual or clutch would hold up. Plus gear ratios all wrong.
 
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Doubtful the manual or clutch would hold up. Plus gear ratios all wrong.
The NSG will not hold up, I agree. I'd be interested on the SRT internals with a strong manual and strong rear. I know what would be involved with making another transmission work (tr6060 or something), but considering the amount of money guys have spent on v8 swaps and what people are willing to spend on a turbo setup that will get their limited to SRT specs.. A beastly 6 speed swap would sell.. period. It's possible, it's just a matter of time before it happens.
 
Old Dec 22, 2011 | 03:17 PM
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I know Rudy had an SRT-6 drivetrain he tried to sell here, and if anyone could sell one here, it is Rudy. Last I heard he installed it into a car he owned because no one purchased it. There are usually more that want to say they are interested than will actually pony up the cash.

Pricing is a must.

My $0.02
 
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I know I did my own swap and also what kind of time and effort was involved so would be very interested to see what kind of price you think it is worth to do it commercially. I think Rudy was asking 9k+ for a turn key. And looking back on my swap that is not out of line at all.
 
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I know I did my own swap and also what kind of time and effort was involved so would be very interested to see what kind of price you think it is worth to do it commercially. I think Rudy was asking 9k+ for a turn key. And looking back on my swap that is not out of line at all.
I am only looking at supplying the components, not labor, too much to do just to get stuff parted out.
 
Old Dec 27, 2011 | 08:53 PM
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Understood and to be perfectly honest I would still do the swap given the perma grin I have found all over again now that I have an extra 220 ponies to play with. (A little modified from stock). I am supprised that more people are not posting, given the awakening this would give the N/A crowd.

Good luck
 
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I am supprised that more people are not posting, given the awakening this would give the N/A crowd.

Good luck
Between a V8, a rotrex SC, and the BEGi turbo kit for the NAs, I think many of us are waiting to see where everything lands...
 
Old Dec 28, 2011 | 10:14 AM
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IMO it wouldn't be at all unreasonable to ask $5,000 for a complete SRT drivetrain, turnkey, with differential and ECU and all the goodies. Can cheaper ones be found? Sure. Will they have everything you need? Probably not.

The BEGi turbo is quite promising, I think 340 flywheel horsepower isn't out of the question. More than that, and you start cooking the Limited tranny and pushing the limits of stock internals. The ability for the 6MT to hold that power is speculatory at best. Sure, the clutch can be upgraded, but the dual-mass flywheel can pose some serious difficulty in making everything play nice.

The Rotrex is very similar... tons-o-fun but lots-o-risk. In the end, I don't see Web3.0 selling those kits for less than $5K, if he even decides to market them. Asking him to sell a kit that he's invested over a year's worth R&D on for $3,000 would be an insult.

V-8 swaps are like any other project -- amazing and relatively inexpensive if you can do all of your own fab work and programming... a money-pit if you need to hire even half the job out, let alone the full monty. Rudy doesn't get $20,000 for no reason.

And no, I don't think the answer to everyone's question is "buy an SRT". I took that path because I was willing to pay $14,500 for a choice Limited. Paying a comparable amount for a modded SRT, in excellent condition, with double the horsepower was a no-brainer. If I still had my white one, selling it wouldn't even be considered, as I had too much heart and soul in the car itself, let alone the drivetrain.

It's for those folks, that the SRT swap would make sense. The two bolt-on forced induction alternatives would give you stock SRT power, very reliably, for less than $5K. The only problem is the remaining drivetrain, and its limits (known, but never fully tested).

Whatever you choose, enjoy the ride.
 
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IMO it wouldn't be at all unreasonable to ask $5,000 for a complete SRT drivetrain, turnkey, with differential and ECU and all the goodies. Can cheaper ones be found? Sure. Will they have everything you need? Probably not.

The BEGi turbo is quite promising, I think 340 flywheel horsepower isn't out of the question. More than that, and you start cooking the Limited tranny and pushing the limits of stock internals. The ability for the 6MT to hold that power is speculatory at best. Sure, the clutch can be upgraded, but the dual-mass flywheel can pose some serious difficulty in making everything play nice.

The Rotrex is very similar... tons-o-fun but lots-o-risk. In the end, I don't see Web3.0 selling those kits for less than $5K, if he even decides to market them. Asking him to sell a kit that he's invested over a year's worth R&D on for $3,000 would be an insult.

V-8 swaps are like any other project -- amazing and relatively inexpensive if you can do all of your own fab work and programming... a money-pit if you need to hire even half the job out, let alone the full monty. Rudy doesn't get $20,000 for no reason.

And no, I don't think the answer to everyone's question is "buy an SRT". I took that path because I was willing to pay $14,500 for a choice Limited. Paying a comparable amount for a modded SRT, in excellent condition, with double the horsepower was a no-brainer. If I still had my white one, selling it wouldn't even be considered, as I had too much heart and soul in the car itself, let alone the drivetrain.

It's for those folks, that the SRT swap would make sense. The two bolt-on forced induction alternatives would give you stock SRT power, very reliably, for less than $5K. The only problem is the remaining drivetrain, and its limits (known, but never fully tested).

Whatever you choose, enjoy the ride.
John, that is a very good explanation, and you are right there as far as the price I am looking at for a complete setup. And that is the difference, a complete factory package, everything needed to convert to SRT6 power.

As some know, I have designed and built turbo systems for years, and whatever the "base" price is, your always going to spend more to make it your own setup. And granted, the turbo will be popular, and may produce power close to the SRT6, but as you stated, you don't get the forged engine, built tranny, and matching rearend. With the conversion package, you keep the balance front/rear intact (heavy V8), you get awesome power, AND you have an engine that you can build on.
 
Old Dec 28, 2011 | 10:44 AM
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Default Re: Interest in turnkey SRT-6 powertrain package?

What is the VIN for this drive train?
 
Old Dec 28, 2011 | 10:48 AM
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I have a distributor, in Wisconsin, that would sell me a new still in the crate SRT6 engine for $2400.00 picked up, not shipped. So, if you were offering all the componets to someone looking to do a swap, unless that person was going to do all the work, it wouldn't be worth it. I would part it all out and make your new business money. I would not package a thing. You are in the parts business, not the "discounted" kit business...and that is being a helpful critique. I have a friend not 6 miles from me in the salvage business. The engines, the trannys, the wiring harnesses, the rear ends, all laid out on the floor in his building. Their family has been in business for 40 yrs. You want it all, you buy it all, piece by piece. As for all the little things, they are in the car on the lot. You go out, get what you need, bring it in, and they set a price. Usually pretty cheap, sometimes, if a regular, it is free. I like what you are doing by cataloging every piece, and I would stay that course. But that is just me. More money to made piece meal...
 
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Stuff this into an early 70's 240Z! Let's think outside the box folks!!
 
Old Dec 28, 2011 | 11:11 AM
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Stuff this into an early 70's 240Z! Let's think outside the box folks!!
yes sir, now you are thinking, as that makes it affordable. Just what Rudy did putting his in an all wheel drive sedan that will kick your butt....lol Johnny wanted a winter driver, and I tried to get him to call Rudy....that car is a sleeper for sure....
 
Old Dec 28, 2011 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tunaglove
Stuff this into an early 70's 240Z! Let's think outside the box folks!!
the only reason I would consider a swap like this would be to keep my car inspectable. This would be a waste for anything that doesn't require an OBD2 inspection imho. I haven't really seen anyone break 600hp with this engine, for the money I'd shoot for at least 600.
 
Old Dec 29, 2011 | 01:04 PM
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Can you advise what the VIN is for this setup yet?

Originally Posted by MrMoPar
Limited owners, would there be interest in a complete SRT-6 powertrain conversion package?

I am talking a complete VIN matched set up including;
Motor
Transmission
Rear end
Intercooler, pump, reservoir
All VIN specific modules
SRT-6 specific wiring harneses
Even the remote for the key start (use your physical ignition cylinder and key blade)

Nuts, bolts, hoses, ALL the bits and pieces.

Is there interest?

It could even include a brake and suspension package.

Don't ask how much, just gauging interest if such a package would be desired (parts only).
 
Old Dec 29, 2011 | 01:15 PM
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Can you advise what the VIN is for this setup yet?
Yes, 051775, is there specific info you need?
 
 
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