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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 10:08 PM
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Hey Dan,
where did u get your springs installed & how much?? Eibach manufacturing warehouse is right around the corner from me in Carona, been wantn to go there to see if I can outright buy from them.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 02:04 AM
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Eurorev did mine and my ecu total 700.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by x'ed
he just makes the crossfire ones up.......your handeling arguements are weak bullseye....of course the gt is faster straight away.......doesn't handle as well or brake as well.......its a phat ***....... lots more horsepower, lots more weight....
you obviously have a horrible memory.

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The dyno is measuring horsepower to rear wheels. The marketing is advertising horsepower at the crankshaft. The difference is the power loss through the drivetrain. The measured numbers are pretty close to what Bullseye guessed.
The actual numbers the crossfire put down was around 180whp. My bad off by 5hp. But "HENCE" the around to begin with.

The rest of the dyno talk is on this great website, when I actually gave a damn about the crossfire. One day you all will realize as I did, you can't make a car something it is not.

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...t=dyno+results

There you go.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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can't make a car something it's not? and your talking about the handeling of a mustang? your funny...and the crossfire can be made fast, cams are available now, pulleys, ecu. thats at least 245 at the crank, then if the headers ever come out and you get exhaust. of course the cams are expensive, but all in all 2600 for 30+ hp isn't all that bad for a na motor. not great, but not bad. and 30 is extremely conservative. it would probably be more around 40. but just say 30 to be conservative. at that type of hp, crossfire is a 13.3-13.7 car. not the fastest, but plenty damn fast, about as fast as most n/a z's your gonna find out there. considering you can get an xfire for 24 grand right now, say you spend 29 after mods if you don't know how to wrench yourself, thats a great deal. It looks like i'll be able to buy my car at the end of the lease for super cheap, doubt the dealer is going to want to have a used crossfire sitting around. and yeah bullseye, i realize, in regard to that other thread, i once said i wanted the srt-4 then said i couldn't live with fwd, cuz fwd sucks bro, and you know it........when all is said and done ill have a mid 13 second rwd car that looks great and handles and brakes well for 27k, since i can install everything myself. hmmmmmmm, sounds like a mustang gt with handles........
 
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by x'ed
and since im the only person on this ridiculous forum to post actual data, here you go
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2005/ford...eview..5.Ford*

http://www.edmunds.com/new/2005/chry...s..4.Chrysler*


as you can see its about 400 pounds heavier, and the brakeing distance isn't listed, but im pretty sure i saw somewhere the xfire is less than 115....
Okay I will use time for both the auto and the stick so there is no confusion. All these times are from motortrend.
Car 0-60 1/4mi 60-0 Skidpad Slalom
Chrysler Crossfire (5A) 7.1 15.18 @ 93.34 114 0.87 66.0
Chrysler Crossfire (6M) 6.7 14.74 @ 93.99 113 0.87 66.0

Ford Mustang GT (5A) 5.1 13.60@100.00 120 0.87 66.1
Ford Mustang GT (5M) 5.1 13.51@103.64 125 0.87 65.4

For fun:
Dodge SRT-4 (5M) 5.5 13.96@102.7 112 0.87 68.3

Well the mustang, is no doubt faster than the crossfire. But the crossfire doesnt have as a big as edge in brakes to make up for the power. And handling seems to be a wash. Pretty damn impressive for a solid rear axle.

Lookie that! The SRT-4 out slalomed and out braked the braking monster crossfire. Thats strange, must be a misprint.

And the dyno numbers for an automatic mustang GT can be read in the 10/04 issue of motortrend.

Looks like you need to read some more X'ed. Or stop choosing articles that best suit your needs.

Cheers!
 
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 10:17 PM
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ok, your saying im using articles that best suit my results, then you go to the magazine with the biggest hard on ever for the stang . road and track, crossfire 0-60 in 113, .89 g's, 67.5 slalom. mustang gt you say? .84g's, 64.9 mph slalom, 131 ft. 0-60. in other words, i am right. and why would the lighter manual handle worse than the heavier in the mustang, and more than that, brake better. my numbers for the crossfire are only slightly different from yours, whereas your mustang numbers are way different from mine. thats weird too, eh.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by x'ed
can't make a car something it's not? and your talking about the handeling of a mustang? your funny...and the crossfire can be made fast, cams are available now, pulleys, ecu. thats at least 245 at the crank, then if the headers ever come out and you get exhaust. of course the cams are expensive, but all in all 2600 for 30+ hp isn't all that bad for a na motor. not great, but not bad. and 30 is extremely conservative. it would probably be more around 40. but just say 30 to be conservative. at that type of hp, crossfire is a 13.3-13.7 car. not the fastest, but plenty damn fast, about as fast as most n/a z's your gonna find out there. considering you can get an xfire for 24 grand right now, say you spend 29 after mods if you don't know how to wrench yourself, thats a great deal. It looks like i'll be able to buy my car at the end of the lease for super cheap, doubt the dealer is going to want to have a used crossfire sitting around. and yeah bullseye, i realize, in regard to that other thread, i once said i wanted the srt-4 then said i couldn't live with fwd, cuz fwd sucks bro, and you know it........when all is said and done ill have a mid 13 second rwd car that looks great and handles and brakes well for 27k, since i can install everything myself. hmmmmmmm, sounds like a mustang gt with handles........
245 fly wheel hp? ROFL. My srt-4 is already putting down over 233whp and that is stock. I laugh at 245 flywheel. Thats a bit over 200whp. Congrats you accomplish what a N/A Rsx Type S can do with less than 1500 in mods. You can get that new solid rear to handle excellent, steeda and saleen has already proved this. Stock it already out handles the IRS'ed GTO. And thats on that skinny *** rubber. And you aint pulling mid 13's off of 200-210whp. low 14's at best. Maybe trapping at 98-99. For instance, If i took that 5k into my srt-4, i would be in the low 12's high 11's and be able to out handle your crossfire. Like I said trying to make it something it is not, the crossfire is a looker, not a race car. Better off just buying a used SRT-6. As they will soon plumet also.

Or a better bet, just buy a used S2K, and mod it you can pick them up for in the teens. Now you have a much better track car for less money.

And the new shelby gt500 is going to have a solid rear axle, if the base gt now handles as well as the previous IRS cobra, i can't wait to see how great the GT500 will be. True power.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by x'ed
ok, your saying im using articles that best suit my results, then you go to the magazine with the biggest hard on ever for the stang . road and track, crossfire 0-60 in 113, .89 g's, 67.5 slalom. mustang gt you say? .84g's, 64.9 mph slalom, 131 ft. 0-60. in other words, i am right. and why would the lighter manual handle worse than the heavier in the mustang, and more than that, brake better. my numbers for the crossfire are only slightly different from yours, whereas your mustang numbers are way different from mine. thats weird too, eh.
Its called different tracks, use a little brain power, I am sure you are capable. I posted exactly what is in the magazine. Also don't forget Motortrend has the fastest tested time for the SRT-6. I used Motortrend because I had that available. And I don't take anything road and track says to heart. They ran a 14.0 in an EVO. Ever since that I don't read it anymore.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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one more, car and driver, .91g's crossfire, 70-0 in 161ft.
mustang gt:.87g's, 70-0 183ft.
and we can just go on and on about this. how much is the steeda suspension set up, because the stock, non srt-6 crossfire already pulls .91g's. as apples to oranges as this argument is, you have forced me to make a point.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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i think road and track has the fastest gt time
 
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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and i dont know where your from, but any s2k out here with 30k miles or less goes in the mid 20's in good condition. i would love to have an s2k, thats the one car i have always said i would have preferred to have over the crossfire. im not a huge power guy, im more of a balance guy. the crossfire is unbalanced, great chassis, not enough power. i don't know how long its going to take, but i guess after i mod the xfire out i'll have to take it to the qm to settle that, because its just hypothetical.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by x'ed
i think road and track has the fastest gt time
They beat motortrends 13.5? This I did not know. The suspension kit is around 1500 I believe. I have to look through the mag again to be sure.

My point is it will be easier and cheaper to make the mustang gt a handler than to make the crossfire fast.

And you know you damn would right now trade your crossfire for a new mustang GT. Getting out of all you negative equity and staying at the same payment.

At least you don't try to argue the SRT-4.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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according to the quarter mile estimator, it takes 255 hp to run a 13.5 quarter mile in a 3200pound car. thats at the crank.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullseye
They beat motortrends 13.5? This I did not know. The suspension kit is around 1500 I believe. I have to look through the mag again to be sure.

My point is it will be easier and cheaper to make the mustang gt a handler than to make the crossfire fast.

And you know you damn would right now trade your crossfire for a new mustang GT. Getting out of all you negative equity and staying at the same payment.

At least you don't try to argue the SRT-4.


sorry bud, there is absolutely no way i would ever trade in my crossfire for a mustang, ever, unless it was a cobra, i don't try and argure the srt-4 because like i said, not a fan of fwd. it's a good one, but for me its not on the radar after canyoning with it. handeling on the crossfire is better still, to me, but there is a ton of aftermarket support for the srt-4, i know. im sure you could make the srt4 into a handeling machine, but it would still feel like crap to turn. and how do i have negative equity. im paying nothing per month on this lease and will offer them dick to buy it at the end because they wont be able to get dick for it.im going to end up payin 11 grand by the end of my lease, then offer them probably 8-9k seeing as how they are already going in the teens a year old, and mine will be 3 years old. maybe not even 8-9k. i could easily walk away having paid 20-23k for a crossfire. ha. thats not a bad deal bro, no matter how you look at it.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 10:56 PM
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according to the quarter mile estimator, it takes 255 hp to run a 13.5 quarter mile in a 3200pound car. thats at the crank.
OMG, X'ed i didn't think it was possible you my friend have hit a new low. 1/4mi calculator ROFL. Then what should a 270hp car run in a 3100 lb car? low 13's high 12's? That would be a my stock SRT-4 with me in it. What's next taking tuner claims to heart?
 
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 11:02 PM
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im just saying that its hypothetical, what we are saying a crossfire would need to be in the mid 13's, so i just got interested and checked it out. like i said, i just like to find some kind of evidence to make sure im not crazy. you just make claims with little or weak evidence to back them up. i haven't seen you be right here once yet. now im going to watch jeopardy. later.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by x'ed
im just saying that its hypothetical, what we are saying a crossfire would need to be in the mid 13's, so i just got interested and checked it out. like i said, i just like to find some kind of evidence to make sure im not crazy. you just make claims with little or weak evidence to back them up. i haven't seen you be right here once yet. now im going to watch jeopardy. later.
Just be like the rest of them vague, and nothing specific.

And your lease already has a buyout and it aint anywhere near 8-9k that I will promise you. Just keep on living in La-La land.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 11:14 PM
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wow, i forgot you were there when i bought. thats why you know that i got 17 thousand miles a year instead of 12k, 279 amonth instead of 329 and, you guessed it, no buyout. i negotiated my last two cars for 4 plus hours, to pressume to know things you don't.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 11:25 PM
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road and track clocked the GT to 60 in 4.7
 
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 01:00 AM
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Feels like 7.4 to me.
 
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