NA performance list
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I know that there is a performance list for the srt6 but what about for the na? I want to find a complete list of every mod and price for the na xf.. any help is greatly appreciated!!
Originally Posted by HyprLtH20
I know that there is a performance list for the srt6 but what about for the na? I want to find a complete list of every mod and price for the na xf.. any help is greatly appreciated!!
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No i mean something like this list for the SRT6
http://www.srtconnection.com/forums/...ead.php?t=3105
http://www.srtconnection.com/forums/...ead.php?t=3105
yeah since i only own a srt-6 i know all the mods mainly because of Toy who made that awesome list but i know nothing about the list for a na xf. what kind of power can those things get up to?
I'm willing to bet with enough engineering we will eventually see a 300hp NA.
there are many parts available for the limited, but right now the srt6 is a better buy vs $/hp
some of those parts listed for the srt6 will also work on the NA
there are many parts available for the limited, but right now the srt6 is a better buy vs $/hp
some of those parts listed for the srt6 will also work on the NA
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Your list as of yet:
Cold Air Intakes +8HP
www.needswings.com
www.tvtdesign.com
Cat-Back +5 HP
www.borla.com
www.magnaflow.com
ECU Tune (+12-+23HP)
www.inmotion.com
www.tvtdesign.com (call first)
Injectors (allows for more HP)
www.tvtdesign.com
Ignition Wires (+5HP)
www.letmotorsports.com
www.tvtdesign.com
NGK Spark Plugs (better idle, possible HP increase)
www.letmotorsports.com
www.amazon.com
www.tvtdesign.com
Underdrive Pulleys (+6HP)
www.evosport.com
www.letmotorsports.com
Modified Thermostat (cooler running, possible HP increase)
www.tvtdesign.com
Modified Airbox/Hi Flow Filters
www.tvtdesign.com
Air Pump and EGR block off plates (cooler intake charge)
www.tvtdesign.com
Camshafts
www.schrick.com
www.tvtdesign.com (Much cheaper if a group order)
I believe Turner Motorsports carries them as well
I think that about covers it as of right now. I'm sure I'm forgetting something, so feel free to add it in there.
Cold Air Intakes +8HP
www.needswings.com
www.tvtdesign.com
Cat-Back +5 HP
www.borla.com
www.magnaflow.com
ECU Tune (+12-+23HP)
www.inmotion.com
www.tvtdesign.com (call first)
Injectors (allows for more HP)
www.tvtdesign.com
Ignition Wires (+5HP)
www.letmotorsports.com
www.tvtdesign.com
NGK Spark Plugs (better idle, possible HP increase)
www.letmotorsports.com
www.amazon.com
www.tvtdesign.com
Underdrive Pulleys (+6HP)
www.evosport.com
www.letmotorsports.com
Modified Thermostat (cooler running, possible HP increase)
www.tvtdesign.com
Modified Airbox/Hi Flow Filters
www.tvtdesign.com
Air Pump and EGR block off plates (cooler intake charge)
www.tvtdesign.com
Camshafts
www.schrick.com
www.tvtdesign.com (Much cheaper if a group order)
I believe Turner Motorsports carries them as well
I think that about covers it as of right now. I'm sure I'm forgetting something, so feel free to add it in there.
lol, crank of course. unless you swap rotating assemblies from a SRT into the limited block and bolt on vortec or somethng
don't forget sway bars and shocks.
StaRTECH for those with more money than brains.
don't forget sway bars and shocks.
StaRTECH for those with more money than brains.
Last edited by Maxwell; Apr 26, 2008 at 05:49 PM.
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Wow, tvt thanks! Thats exactly what i was looking for! This helps many others too im sure.. Great job!
Originally Posted by Maxwell
I'm willing to bet with enough engineering we will eventually see a 300hp NA.
there are many parts available for the limited, but right now the srt6 is a better buy vs $/hp
some of those parts listed for the srt6 will also work on the NA
there are many parts available for the limited, but right now the srt6 is a better buy vs $/hp
some of those parts listed for the srt6 will also work on the NA
That's too easy to do if you consider NOS. I was at 298 a year ago, then added dual exaust, NGK wires and I will be most likely getting injectors and another tune.
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hey tvt... do you have anyy prices on those mods? i can only find a few on your site and none on the others..
Lets add to TVT List:
Cold Air Intakes +8HP
Custom made Free flow exhaust 3" 20HP
ECU Tune (POWERCHIP Custom 100 octane) plus 7 point octane boost to 107 points 35HP Minimum
Injectors (allows for more HP) 2-3HP
Ignition Wires (+5HP) Dont know bigger spark bigger bang
NGK Spark Plugs (better idle, possible HP increase)
Underdrive Pulleys +6HP
Modified Airbox/Hi Flow Filters +10-12HP
Camshafts +15-20 but expensive
TOTAL N/A Standard here in Australia 212HP
Total mods above 104HP total
316HP at the crank
Nuff said
Cold Air Intakes +8HP
Custom made Free flow exhaust 3" 20HP
ECU Tune (POWERCHIP Custom 100 octane) plus 7 point octane boost to 107 points 35HP Minimum
Injectors (allows for more HP) 2-3HP
Ignition Wires (+5HP) Dont know bigger spark bigger bang
NGK Spark Plugs (better idle, possible HP increase)
Underdrive Pulleys +6HP
Modified Airbox/Hi Flow Filters +10-12HP
Camshafts +15-20 but expensive
TOTAL N/A Standard here in Australia 212HP
Total mods above 104HP total
316HP at the crank
Nuff said
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Here are some of the prices that i have found so far.. im just guna copy/past TVT's info and add to it..
Cold Air Intakes +8HP
www.needswings.com -$450
www.tvtdesign.com -$295
Cat-Back +5 HP
www.borla.com -$630
www.magnaflow.com -$450
ECU Tune (+12-+23HP)
www.inmotion.com -$300/ $500 for custom tune
www.tvtdesign.com (call first) -$350 for unmodified car
Injectors (allows for more HP)
www.tvtdesign.com -$450
Ignition Wires (+5HP)
www.letmotorsports.com
www.tvtdesign.com -$215
NGK Spark Plugs (better idle, possible HP increase)
www.letmotorsports.com -$79
www.amazon.com
www.tvtdesign.com -$90
Underdrive Pulleys (+6HP)
www.evosport.com -$380
www.letmotorsports.com
www.tvtdesign.com -$320
Modified Thermostat (cooler running, possible HP increase)
www.tvtdesign.com -$70
Modified Airbox/Hi Flow Filters
www.tvtdesign.com -$500
Air Pump and EGR block off plates (cooler intake charge)
www.tvtdesign.com -$28
Camshafts ~800 Euros- $1250
www.schrick.com
www.tvtdesign.com (Much cheaper if a group order)
I believe Turner Motorsports carries them as well
It took me a little over an hour to gather all of these prices so i hope that at least a few people find this helpful!
Cold Air Intakes +8HP
www.needswings.com -$450
www.tvtdesign.com -$295
Cat-Back +5 HP
www.borla.com -$630
www.magnaflow.com -$450
ECU Tune (+12-+23HP)
www.inmotion.com -$300/ $500 for custom tune
www.tvtdesign.com (call first) -$350 for unmodified car
Injectors (allows for more HP)
www.tvtdesign.com -$450
Ignition Wires (+5HP)
www.letmotorsports.com
www.tvtdesign.com -$215
NGK Spark Plugs (better idle, possible HP increase)
www.letmotorsports.com -$79
www.amazon.com
www.tvtdesign.com -$90
Underdrive Pulleys (+6HP)
www.evosport.com -$380
www.letmotorsports.com
www.tvtdesign.com -$320
Modified Thermostat (cooler running, possible HP increase)
www.tvtdesign.com -$70
Modified Airbox/Hi Flow Filters
www.tvtdesign.com -$500
Air Pump and EGR block off plates (cooler intake charge)
www.tvtdesign.com -$28
Camshafts ~800 Euros- $1250
www.schrick.com
www.tvtdesign.com (Much cheaper if a group order)
I believe Turner Motorsports carries them as well
It took me a little over an hour to gather all of these prices so i hope that at least a few people find this helpful!
Last edited by HyprLtH20; Apr 30, 2008 at 01:06 PM.
it doesn't quite work that way Hugo, adding up numbers sound logical, but power adders that make HP in this engine might not work together with anoth performance part, then you have to change the ecu mapping for a certain power adder, which may detract from another parts performance. It's not just simple addition, but I could be wrong.
Originally Posted by Hugo
Lets add to TVT List:
Cold Air Intakes +8HP
Custom made Free flow exhaust 3" 20HP
ECU Tune (POWERCHIP Custom 100 octane) plus 7 point octane boost to 107 points 35HP Minimum
Injectors (allows for more HP) 2-3HP
Ignition Wires (+5HP) Dont know bigger spark bigger bang
NGK Spark Plugs (better idle, possible HP increase)
Underdrive Pulleys +6HP
Modified Airbox/Hi Flow Filters +10-12HP
Camshafts +15-20 but expensive
TOTAL N/A Standard here in Australia 212HP
Total mods above 104HP total
316HP at the crank
Nuff said
Cold Air Intakes +8HP
Custom made Free flow exhaust 3" 20HP
ECU Tune (POWERCHIP Custom 100 octane) plus 7 point octane boost to 107 points 35HP Minimum
Injectors (allows for more HP) 2-3HP
Ignition Wires (+5HP) Dont know bigger spark bigger bang
NGK Spark Plugs (better idle, possible HP increase)
Underdrive Pulleys +6HP
Modified Airbox/Hi Flow Filters +10-12HP
Camshafts +15-20 but expensive
TOTAL N/A Standard here in Australia 212HP
Total mods above 104HP total
316HP at the crank
Nuff said
Last edited by Maxwell; Apr 30, 2008 at 07:57 AM.
I agree with Maxwell.
A lot items of performance figures are just one single item against an unmodified angine.
For example:
A new CAI may let the engine breath better and gain you 5hp.
A new exhaust may let the engine breath better and gain you 5hp.
However, if you do both mod's the engine can not breath the same increase twice, you may only gain 8hp with both mods.
The engine is only a glorified air pump, it can only move so much volume of air - hence turbo's & blowers etc.
A lot items of performance figures are just one single item against an unmodified angine.
For example:
A new CAI may let the engine breath better and gain you 5hp.
A new exhaust may let the engine breath better and gain you 5hp.
However, if you do both mod's the engine can not breath the same increase twice, you may only gain 8hp with both mods.
The engine is only a glorified air pump, it can only move so much volume of air - hence turbo's & blowers etc.
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Originally Posted by Hugo
Lets add to TVT List:
Cold Air Intakes +8HP
Custom made Free flow exhaust 3" 20HP
ECU Tune (POWERCHIP Custom 100 octane) plus 7 point octane boost to 107 points 35HP Minimum
Injectors (allows for more HP) 2-3HP
Ignition Wires (+5HP) Dont know bigger spark bigger bang
NGK Spark Plugs (better idle, possible HP increase)
Underdrive Pulleys +6HP
Modified Airbox/Hi Flow Filters +10-12HP
Camshafts +15-20 but expensive
TOTAL N/A Standard here in Australia 212HP
Total mods above 104HP total
316HP at the crank
Nuff said
Cold Air Intakes +8HP
Custom made Free flow exhaust 3" 20HP
ECU Tune (POWERCHIP Custom 100 octane) plus 7 point octane boost to 107 points 35HP Minimum
Injectors (allows for more HP) 2-3HP
Ignition Wires (+5HP) Dont know bigger spark bigger bang
NGK Spark Plugs (better idle, possible HP increase)
Underdrive Pulleys +6HP
Modified Airbox/Hi Flow Filters +10-12HP
Camshafts +15-20 but expensive
TOTAL N/A Standard here in Australia 212HP
Total mods above 104HP total
316HP at the crank
Nuff said
With a spot on tune and the stock intake and exhaust manifolds, 300HP will be extremely tough to get, but doable. A new manifold and headers will really wake this engine up.
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Originally Posted by TVT_DESIGN
A new manifold and headers will really wake this engine up.
Sorry guys just belted it out but to clarify the figures I added to TVT are the ones quoted by the specialist engineers that do my mods.
All have been designed to work together, which is why I'm kicking the Porche and Lotus buts on the track
"Just to clarify your HP quotes here: an exhaust will add 12RWHP at best with a properly built dual exhaust "
Properly built removed cats mandrel bent estimated but not Dyno proven
The ECU tune wil not you no more then 18RWHP without larger injectors, regardless of the octane you use.
ECU Tune made without emmission restrictions if you take the time to read the Powerchip site there are significant gains to be made by Octane ratings and when you take the emmissions out of the equation even more.
You can't make power without the fuel. Hence bigger injectors.
Agreed but the bigger the bang the more the power, hey I might go to Nitro
just kidding
With a spot on tune and the stock intake and exhaust manifolds, 300HP will be extremely tough to get, but doable. A new manifold and headers will really wake this engine up.
Headers are in the process of being bent now, intake is being looked at to see if we can open it up a bit but retain the appropriate swirl and internal finish to aid combustion.
As said it all adds up to harmony, but if you have the right people who are SPECIALISTS in their individual fields it is quite doable. (is that a word?)
BUT you have to find the right people.
Having said all that we are now looking into the Vortec side of things and fuel ratios and delivery are critical here. The Benz guys have a bit of an idea I am using Harrop engineering here for dev work. Harrop do a lot of the V8 Supercar intake and engineering work here so we will see what they come up with.
Hey it's all fun
All have been designed to work together, which is why I'm kicking the Porche and Lotus buts on the track
"Just to clarify your HP quotes here: an exhaust will add 12RWHP at best with a properly built dual exhaust "
Properly built removed cats mandrel bent estimated but not Dyno proven
The ECU tune wil not you no more then 18RWHP without larger injectors, regardless of the octane you use.
ECU Tune made without emmission restrictions if you take the time to read the Powerchip site there are significant gains to be made by Octane ratings and when you take the emmissions out of the equation even more.
You can't make power without the fuel. Hence bigger injectors.
Agreed but the bigger the bang the more the power, hey I might go to Nitro
With a spot on tune and the stock intake and exhaust manifolds, 300HP will be extremely tough to get, but doable. A new manifold and headers will really wake this engine up.
Headers are in the process of being bent now, intake is being looked at to see if we can open it up a bit but retain the appropriate swirl and internal finish to aid combustion.
As said it all adds up to harmony, but if you have the right people who are SPECIALISTS in their individual fields it is quite doable. (is that a word?)
BUT you have to find the right people.
Having said all that we are now looking into the Vortec side of things and fuel ratios and delivery are critical here. The Benz guys have a bit of an idea I am using Harrop engineering here for dev work. Harrop do a lot of the V8 Supercar intake and engineering work here so we will see what they come up with.
Hey it's all fun


