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Mustang GT...CYA

Old Nov 5, 2006 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dynamicS
I couldn't help myself, lately the forum has been kinda boring, so I figured I go back to the first days and see what people where talking about, way back in '03. Hehehe.
Well what can we say, the forum is much like the XF. You said it best yourself.

Lol. Sorry I couldn't help myself.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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He couldn't catch you because at over 90 Mph the new GT is so unstable it is scary to drive.

And I don't doubt that he blew it up, my guess would be a cracked head. Ford is gonna take a bath on this power train. It was rushed out and the build quality is very bad. Worse than normal ford craftsmanship.

I don't think I would want to take one off the line but if you pass one at 100 Mph they will roll the car before they catch up to you. So feel free to blow by GTs and flip them the bird at high speeds. :-)
This is true, at high speeds these are dogs. I posted several months ago how a guy in a GT could not pass me while we were doing around 120, in fact he had to give up as we were entering the twisty bits of route 8.

Straight line speed guys always make me laugh. I've also have a Honda S2K stamped on my fender as well LOL, that guy just plain sucked and almost crashed because he wasn't looking where he was going. How can you be doing 130 mph and not pay attention?
 
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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Yeah I know what you mean about the S2K's, they're really not much of a challenge for the Limited XF in a straight line, but I'm sure they would walk away on a twisty track no problem...
 
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 01:33 AM
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Yeah I know what you mean about the S2K's, they're really not much of a challenge for the Limited XF in a straight line, but I'm sure they would walk away on a twisty track no problem...
WARNING...WARNING..."Mag" Boy... Report...According to Road & Track OCT. '05 Road Test results:

Top Speed....Crossfire - 150 mph....................S2000 - 156 mph
0-60 mph.....Crossfire - 6.7 sec.......................S2000 - 5.4 sec
1/4 mile.......Crossfire - 14.9 sec.....................S2000 - 13.9 sec
Skidpad.......Crossfire - 0.89...........................S2000 - 0.91 sec
Slalom.........Crossfire - 69.6 mph....................S2000 - 69.7 mph


It looks to me that it would be just the opposite. In the twisties, it would be a "drivers" race. But in the straight line, the Honda would suck our doors off.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 01:44 AM
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Yeah I know what you mean about the S2K's, they're really not much of a challenge for the Limited XF in a straight line, but I'm sure they would walk away on a twisty track no problem...
WARNING...WARNING..."Mag" Boy... Report...According to Road & Track OCT. '05 Road Test results:

Top Speed....Crossfire - 150 mph....................S2000 - 156 mph
0-60 mph.....Crossfire - 6.7 sec.......................S2000 - 5.4 sec
1/4 mile.......Crossfire - 14.9 sec.....................S2000 - 13.9 sec
Skidpad.......Crossfire - 0.89...........................S2000 - 0.91 sec
Slalom........Crossfire - 69.6 mph....................S2000 - 69.7 mph


It looks to me that it would be just the opposite. In the twisties, it would be a "drivers" race. But in the straight line, the Honda would suck our doors off.
That may be true in magazine world, but not in reality, Everyone knows the big name magazines are given ringers for testing, overly tuned ECU maps grippy tires tuned suspension, etc...
I only speak from experience while going against two s2K's so far... but I seriously have my doubts about the slalom. The crossfire is very heavy on the front end compared the S2k, which I don't know the balance numbers I'm guessing it's lighter up front due to the 4 banger.
 

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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 02:08 AM
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Okay I wasn't going to say anything.

But the idea of a S197 Stang GT, losing to a non srt-6 crossfire on the highway is laughable. If anyone would like to test this let me know. I have a few stock guys waiting. A new stang gt will walk a XF from a roll, and rape it from a dig. I know because I have had both and taken them to the same track.

And a properly driven S2k will walk a XF as well. I owned a S2k, it was faster than the crossfire.

People have gotten 13's out a stock S2k, people have not got even near that in a XF. Maybe mid 14's at best.

If a stock legacy GT can walk a crossfire, I am pretty sure a s2k or s197 stang will have little problems. FBD is right.

The XF is a looker, not a race car. Non srt of course.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 02:12 AM
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Before I bought my Crossfire, I test drove an S2000 for about a half an hour. I took it down some nice curvy roads, and did a few acceleration runs from a dead stop. I really didn't notice much difference in the handling, but in the acceleration dept. I felt a BIG difference. Of course you have to keep the RPM's up in the clouds all the time, but it isn't really that hard to do with the Honda's great shifter.
The reason I bought the Crossfire over the S2K was styling, the fact I liked the coupe XF over the Honda's roadster body. I fit in the Crossfire better, and last but not least, Price. I purchased my Crossfire for 1,000's less than the Honda. Even though IMO the Honda is probably the more dependable car, the Crossfire feels like a Mercedes, and it just comes across as a better car for the money, more solid.
If you beat two different S2K's in a drag race, I would have to say they just didn't know how to drive them. Because whether the magazines got a "ringer" or not, 1 sec. difference in the 1/4 mile is still alot.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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Well if you guys say the S2K is faster then OK, as for the two I raced, not from a dig but from 30 mph rolls. They never passed me and never gained any distance, so I guess they where ill experienced drivers.

I did Smoke two different mustangs a couple weeks back, I have no idea what was under the hood of either. But I could guess, one was a 60's fastback probably 289 with a 4 speed, I consistantly walked away from him at 2 stop lights by half a car length. The other was a 1998 mustang, but I can't say it was a GT, I wasn't paying attention. But we went at it for 3 stop lights and he could never take me out of the hole, I just blew him a way all night, hell it was probably a V6.
 

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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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My experience with an S2K says otherwise but like I said the driver sucked ***. I autocross the Porsche so I know how to drive. The GT stanger definitely had me in the straights but at 120 mph it wasn't pulling away. And as well all know the world is not a straight line which is why I always laugh at the straight line power guys.

I'm in no way saying the Xfire is a dragster or a fast car. I'm saying that at the speeds I've driven at in both my Porsche and the Xfire people with much more horsepower have been beaten by a much better driver.

I for one know that straight line power cars are fun, but not as fun as cars that handle with decent power. But this whole blow the doors off thing is silly. The stanger had me by like maybe a car length and a half on route 8 and once it got twisty I had him by like 10 car lengths so you do the math.

Usually big HP straight line people drive like **** because they never learn the ins and outs of their particular car and how to ring the most out of it. I know at what speed my car does what and its capabilities at the limit of its performance. Straight line guys hardly ever do because the car is doing most of the work for them.

Attack me if you will but my little S2 with 220 hp has been quite happy beating cars with much more horsepower all over the back roads of CT. I don't do stop light racing as it wouldn't be fair to me.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 07:32 PM
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Porsche speed limited to 150 anyway, Mustang 150? Not on my watch. Hehe. Live rear end Specs say 140 top end.

http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z...T/default.aspx
 
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