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unarel32 01-04-2016 07:59 PM

ID the oil leak?
 
I came home to what looks like an oil slick under the front of the car yesterday. It's actually shaped almost like a rectangle the size of the front half of the oil pan...This was the first day in my new garage so it's likely nothing new but rather I just noticed how bad it is. I've had a small leak that I figured was the valve cover for a while, but been busy until lately so I just down and took a few pics tonight. I plan on driving the car up on ramps tomorrow to get a closer look.

I checked the oil level with the key on, and it says 'OK'. I last changed the oil about five months/2k miles ago. For what it's worth, I backed the car into the garage today and placed cardboard under it, and it's completely dry five hours later.. Please check out the pics on google drive! Thank you.:confused:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwW...ew?usp=sharing
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waldig 01-05-2016 08:01 AM

Re: ID the oil leak?
 
Transmission connector - old news. The o ring fails, i did a write up on it, easy fix. Woody:p

onehundred80 01-05-2016 09:06 AM

Re: ID the oil leak?
 

Originally Posted by unarel32 (Post 856100)
I came home to what looks like an oil slick under the front of the car yesterday. It's actually shaped almost like a rectangle the size of the front half of the oil pan...This was the first day in my new garage so it's likely nothing new but rather I just noticed how bad it is. I've had a small leak that I figured was the valve cover for a while, but been busy until lately so I just down and took a few pics tonight. I plan on driving the car up on ramps tomorrow to get a closer look.

I checked the oil level with the key on, and it says 'OK'. I last changed the oil about five months/2k miles ago. For what it's worth, I backed the car into the garage today and placed cardboard under it, and it's completely dry five hours later.. Please check out the pics on google drive! Thank you.:confused:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwW...ew?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwW...ew?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwW...ew?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwW...ew?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwW...ew?usp=sharing

You show us pictures that look like the transmission pan to me,
the engine probably still has the plastic shield under it?
So Waldig is correct again, I would add pictures directly to the post instead of posting to a third party site, some people cannot be bothered to go to those sites.

Fix it like this.

unarel32 01-05-2016 01:23 PM

Re: ID the oil leak?
 
Thank you gentlemen. I really appreciate the help. It's pouring rain so I haven't put the car up today, will look into the parts first! :)

bledrew 02-09-2016 01:44 PM

Re: ID the oil leak?
 
I just had the oil and filter changed a few days ago. Yesterday the check oil light came on. Took it back to have it checked. Turns out there was a hairline crack in the aluminum oil pan running vertically down from the middle bolt. It had been noted as a small lead around the bolt. The tiny bit of oil completely concealed the crack. The pan had not be whacked or damaged in any way. Now they're trying to find a replacement. Having the valve cover gaskets replaced at the same time. Costly, but essential to protect my baby. Sigh.

pioneer4x4 02-09-2016 01:47 PM

Re: ID the oil leak?
 
Are you certain it was there before? Any chance they smacked it putting it on the lift or something?

kingdavid54 02-09-2016 02:05 PM

Re: ID the oil leak?
 

Originally Posted by bledrew (Post 858863)
I just had the oil and filter changed a few days ago. Yesterday the check oil light came on. Took it back to have it checked. Turns out there was a hairline crack in the aluminum oil pan running vertically down from the middle bolt. It had been noted as a small lead around the bolt. The tiny bit of oil completely concealed the crack. The pan had not be whacked or damaged in any way. Now they're trying to find a replacement. Having the valve cover gaskets replaced at the same time. Costly, but essential to protect my baby. Sigh.

:rolleyes: pardon me if I seem skeptical, anyway the pan will be certainly cheaper from Mercedes then it will be from Chrysler.

bledrew 02-09-2016 02:30 PM

Re: ID the oil leak?
 

Originally Posted by kingdavid54 (Post 858867)
:rolleyes: pardon me if I seem skeptical, anyway the pan will be certainly cheaper from Mercedes then it will be from Chrysler.

I actually had to go take a look at it to believe it. Sure enough. I'll have them check MB for the part as well. Sigh.

kingdavid54 02-09-2016 02:48 PM

Re: ID the oil leak?
 

Originally Posted by bledrew (Post 858870)
I actually had to go take a look at it to believe it. Sure enough. I'll have them check MB for the part as well. Sigh.

Just for my own curiosity how many times have you had the oil changed in that car and how many times has the check oil level light came on? How long have you owned the car how many miles are on it? Have you had any other oil related problems with your car ? Are they going to pay for the oil pan and labor?

pioneer4x4 02-09-2016 03:17 PM

Re: ID the oil leak?
 

Originally Posted by kingdavid54 (Post 858867)
:rolleyes: pardon me if I seem skeptical, anyway the pan will be certainly cheaper from Mercedes then it will be from Chrysler.

Junkyard, or parts car, if they will separate from a working engine.

bledrew 02-09-2016 03:25 PM

Re: ID the oil leak?
 

Originally Posted by pioneer4x4 (Post 858877)
Junkyard, or parts car, if they will separate from a working engine.

Thanks. just found one. I guess this is my baptism of fire. I sure appreciate all of the input from folks on here. Also, glad I didn't yet sell my mint 1998 Caravan Sport that served me for years hauling an ailing spouse to and from the doctor. I may just keep it. On it I couldn't get the haze off the headlight, so I bought a replacement set for $150. Looking at replacements for my Crossfire had me sit down real quickly. Got these haze free this time with cost being a big incentive.

Bill

unarel32 02-09-2016 04:22 PM

Re: ID the oil leak?
 
I was able to fix this in one night with the info I found on this board. Thank you guys, especially Waldig. You're part of a great community.

waldig 02-09-2016 05:08 PM

Re: ID the oil leak?
 
Information is what its all about, glad you are on the mend, Enjoy W:D:Ddy

JimmieC 02-10-2016 10:13 AM

Re: ID the oil leak?
 
I have for sale an upper and lower oil pan and oil level sender. I will be out of reach until Tuesday 14 Feb.

Travish 02-10-2016 10:52 AM

Re: ID the oil leak?
 

Originally Posted by JimmieC (Post 858957)
oil level sender.

Is this new?

JimmieC 02-15-2016 12:06 PM

Re: ID the oil leak?
 
From a 40,000 mile Engine I lost because I did not yet have a pully scatter shield bt Late Model 21. Phone 210 648 5779.

pizzaguy 02-15-2016 12:59 PM

Re: ID the oil leak?
 

Originally Posted by bledrew (Post 858880)
I couldn't get the haze off the headlight...... Looking at replacements for my Crossfire had me sit down real quickly. Got these haze free this time with cost being a big incentive.

Bill

Dont waste your money, you can restore them easily. I got some wet sand paper and Mequiar's PLastX and in about 1/2 hour, mine looked new again. Yea, I missed the lower right, went back and did that - but it was too dark to get a picture! :)
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cro...e5667cd767.jpg

pizzaguy 02-15-2016 01:09 PM

Re: ID the oil leak?
 

Originally Posted by bledrew (Post 858863)
Having the valve cover gaskets replaced at the same time. Costly....

Again, waste of money. The vavle cover gaskets are probably not hte issue, it's the seal in the RTV between the breather and valve covers that leaks. While it is nto a bad idea to change the gaskets as well, the real issue is the RTV-type crap they use between breathers and covers.

I am no mechanic, but I did mine myself - have not put them back on cause it is COLD here in North Georgia and my car sits in an unheated stall! :)

Here is the re-sealed breather-to-valve-cover assembly, again, have not put it back on the car:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cro...19b6684257.jpg

I am no mechanic, and can tell you that this was not a hard job at all.

pizzaguy 02-15-2016 01:11 PM

Re: ID the oil leak?
 
Summary: Don't pass up a chance to do it yourself - working on the car (when it does not cost $100 an hour for someone ELSE to do it) can be great therapy! Sure beats going to the office, I can tell you THAT!

Stick around here, friends, we will save you enough money to finance your next vacation!

Dicky46 02-15-2016 01:42 PM

Re: ID the oil leak?
 
Had my leaks repaired last week by a small shop in new Baltimore Mi that Rob from needs wings referred me to. They work on Mercedes and BMW's it was just the seals around the breathers atop the valve covers. Scraped all the old Sealant off and did a real nice re-seal job. Less than 250. Could have saved money has Mark did, but trust me, when I finish with they will leak worse than when I started. So for me, money well spent!!


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