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Old Sep 13, 2017 | 12:08 PM
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Hi all,

I'm about to change my Xfire NA oil. Reading the numerous posts, I've always seen to use 8 quarts of 0W40 or 5W40 to refill.

But in the technical doc (2005_Crossfire_SRT6_Service_Manual.pdf, page 0-5), it's 11.8 qts. I'm probably misinterpreting the figures, but what's wrong ?

BTW, is EGX the engine code for the 3.2L (non-SRT) ?

Thanks a lot.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2017 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by crossvic
Hi all,

I'm about to change my Xfire NA oil. Reading the numerous posts, I've always seen to use 8 quarts of 0W40 or 5W40 to refill.

But in the technical doc (2005_Crossfire_SRT6_Service_Manual.pdf, page 0-5), it's 11.8 qts. I'm probably misinterpreting the figures, but what's wrong ?

BTW, is EGX the engine code for the 3.2L (non-SRT) ?

Thanks a lot.

Put in 8 quarts and check the dipstick. I will bet your pretty well up on the level (full) on the dipstick. Many say 8 1/2, many (like me) use only 8 quarts to full. Good luck, and have fun!

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Old Sep 13, 2017 | 02:08 PM
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👍 yep, same for me, 8 qts.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2017 | 04:32 PM
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Default Re: 3.2L NA oil capacity

Originally Posted by crossvic
Hi all,

I'm about to change my Xfire NA oil. Reading the numerous posts, I've always seen to use 8 quarts of 0W40 or 5W40 to refill.

But in the technical doc (2005_Crossfire_SRT6_Service_Manual.pdf, page 0-5), it's 11.8 qts. I'm probably misinterpreting the figures, but what's wrong ?

BTW, is EGX the engine code for the 3.2L (non-SRT) ?

Thanks a lot.
Most here use Mobil oil, there are alternatives though.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2017 | 02:09 PM
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I bought 2x5L 5w40 MB229.3 of Elf oil, it should be OK.

But I still can't explain the difference between 8 qts (around 7.5 liters) and the amount stated in the service manual.

Any hint?
 
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Old Sep 14, 2017 | 02:14 PM
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Some engineer,, took length, width, depth, an decided it would hold 8.5 QTS. an forgot there was a crank submerged in there as well.
8qts seems to work best. See what you think.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2017 | 02:35 PM
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Weird. In the Saab WIS, pretty accurate.
Swedish more accurate than german ? :-)
 
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Old Sep 14, 2017 | 04:42 PM
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Default Re: 3.2L NA oil capacity

Originally Posted by crossvic
I bought 2x5L 5w40 MB229.3 of Elf oil, it should be OK.

But I still can't explain the difference between 8 qts (around 7.5 liters) and the amount stated in the service manual.

Any hint?
This is a European car and capacities are quoted in litres. In Canada we officially use the metric system and I put in 8 litres. The 8 litres is the official engine oil capacity. You have to drain it well and it just comes above the full mark. No sweat. Some places in the manuals give less oil to fill the engine.
The US is one of the few countries left that use that old system, and they get confused with this hornery metric system as they do with spelling the English language.
 

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Old Sep 14, 2017 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by onehundred80
The US is one of the few countries left that use that old system, and they get confused with this hornery metric system as they do with spelling the English language.
AIN'T is a wurd an 14mm is 9/16" or at lest that rench fets...
 
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Old Sep 14, 2017 | 10:23 PM
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Just keep pouring oil in until it is FULL to the top of the filler neck. 20W50 works best in V6s, too.
Avoid synthetic oils and I'd leave the filter out too, no filter promotes better volume of flow.


crossvic:
Welcome to the forum, from Asshatville - population, ME.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2017 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by pizzaguy
Just keep pouring oil in until it is FULL to the top of the filler neck. 20W50 works best in V6s, too.
Avoid synthetic oils and I'd leave the filter out too, no filter promotes better volume of flow.


crossvic:
Welcome to the forum, from Asshatville - population, ME.
And use store brand or Quaker State oil, whichever is cheaper, should last you 20k - 30k miles.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2017 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by pizzaguy
Just keep pouring oil in until it is FULL to the top of the filler neck. 20W50 works best in V6s, too.
Avoid synthetic oils and I'd leave the filter out too, no filter promotes better volume of flow.


crossvic:
Welcome to the forum, from Asshatville - population, ME.
If 20w50 is best, than 75w90 would be bester'ist 😋 Welcome to The Forum.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2017 | 06:17 AM
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If 20w50 is best, than 75w90 would be bester'ist 😋 Welcome to The Forum.
Even 100W100 ? And instead of oil, just water ! Cheaper !
 
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Old Sep 15, 2017 | 06:18 AM
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Even 100W100 ? And instead of oil, just water ! Cheaper !
Use Crisco, works for everything else ( but it's best for fryin chicken )
 
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Old Sep 15, 2017 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ala_xfire
Use Crisco, works for everything else ( but it's best for fryin chicken )
Yep Crisco would work fine until the Pistons melted and the rod bearings welded themselves to the crankshaft but at least you would smell like fried chicken. 😏
 

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Old Sep 15, 2017 | 09:07 AM
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This thread has gotten completely "out of hand"!!!
 
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Old Sep 15, 2017 | 09:20 AM
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Default Re: 3.2L NA oil capacity

Originally Posted by crossvic
Hi all,

I'm about to change my Xfire NA oil. Reading the numerous posts, I've always seen to use 8 quarts of 0W40 or 5W40 to refill.

But in the technical doc (2005_Crossfire_SRT6_Service_Manual.pdf, page 0-5), it's 11.8 qts. I'm probably misinterpreting the figures, but what's wrong ?

BTW, is EGX the engine code for the 3.2L (non-SRT) ?

Thanks a lot.
On a more serious note, the 11.8 quarts (11.2 liters) you referencing above is the stated Cooling Capacity for the 3.2L V6 NA engine. The Cooling Capacity for the SRT-6 V6 is stated as 14.5 liters (15.3 quarts). The correct oil capacity with a filter change is listed below those figures on Page 0-5 of the Service Manual at 8.0 liters (8.5 quarts). The oil change with filter capacity was listed incorrectly in the 2004 version of the XFire Service Manual.
 

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Old Sep 15, 2017 | 09:26 AM
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This thread has gotten completely "out of hand"!!!
🤔 I don't know! I think there's room for a little bit more 😏
 
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Old Sep 15, 2017 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dedwards0323
On a more serious note, the 11.8 quarts (11.2 liters) you referencing above is the stated Cooling Capacity for the 3.2L V6 NA engine. The Cooling Capacity for the SRT-6 V6 is stated as 14.5 liters (15.3 quarts). The correct oil capacity with a filter change is listed below those figures on Page 0-5 of the Service Manual at 8.0 liters (8.5 quarts). The oil change with filter capacity was listed incorrectly in the 2004 version of the XFire Service Manual.
The OP lives in Lyon, France and has made a simple mistake in his interpretation of the Service Manual. I wonder how many of you could make sense of even a simple French document.
I think he deserves better from all of you.
Elf is a major oil company in Europe, you may have seen the name on some F1 cars.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2017 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dedwards0323
On a more serious note, the 11.8 quarts (11.2 liters) you referencing above is the stated Cooling Capacity for the 3.2L V6 NA engine. The Cooling Capacity for the SRT-6 V6 is stated as 14.5 liters (15.3 quarts). The correct oil capacity with a filter change is listed below those figures on Page 0-5 of the Service Manual at 8.0 liters (8.5 quarts). The oil change with filter capacity was listed incorrectly in the 2004 version of the XFire Service Manual.
You're right, I was reading the wrong line. Indeed, this is 8.0 Liters for the oil capacity. The table on page 0-5 is a little misleading at first sight. Double check next time ;-)

And Elf is a major petrol operator in Africa and oil provider throughout Europe, subsidiary of Total (major european petrol company).
 
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