Yet Another AMG Brake Upgrade How-To
Yet Another AMG Brake Upgrade How-To
FOREWARD:
When I set out to undertake this project, I wanted to experience it for myself. That is, to go at it as if it had never been attempted, to appreciate it the way those who've pioneered the upgrade have. (Read: Sucker for punishment)
That aside, I've learned quite a bit and I don't [yet] regret taking the harder route.
Also, this guide assumes a general knowledge of brakes, bleeding and installing hardware. This is not intended to be an exhaustive step-by-step build.
As others have done, I'll be upgrading the stock 2x4 piston calipers for a set of SLK55 AMG 6 piston/4 piston clampers. The factory rotors will go from 330mm (13.0") to 345mm (14.6") up front, and 300mm (11.8") to 330mm (13.0") for the rear.
(Thanks to RED DOG for the calipers, and Rudy for the brackets.)
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Tools Needed
Floor jack and jack stands (easier than having your buddy hold up the car)
(3/8" or 1/2") 10mm Caliper Bolt Hex Socket (impact compatible recommended)
(3/8" or 1/2") 18mm Socket (impact compatible recommended)
(3/8" due to clearance) 5/8" standard depth socket (rear caliper mounting bolts
5mm Hex Key (front rotor retaining screw)
Torx T30 bit (rear rotor retaining screw)
Torx T40 bit for front pad wear sending unit coupler
Torx T45 bit for front caliper mounts
Brake Bleed Kit (part Advance Auto Parts #AC3310)
Dremel with cutting wheel or angle grinder
Impact gun
Fresh DOT 3/4 brake fluid (LOTS!)
Brake cleaner or Carb cleaner
Loc-tite (blue)
Parts Needed
Replacement brake pad wear sensors (stock ones become brittle and are prone to breakage when removing). Mercedes part #210-540-1117
Custom caliper brackets (front). You can get these from Rudy (rcompart) on these very forums.
Front axle set of 345mm rotors: R1 Concepts (slotted and drilled, variants exist)
Pads: Centric Posi Quiet (Semi-Metallic)
Rear axle set of 330mm rotors: GENUINE brand via CARiD
Pads: CENTRIC Posi Quiet (Semi Metallic) 10409840
Laminated, SS-braided brake lines (brakes are off, why not):
Front Pair
Rear Pair
Set of wheel spacers (with longer bolts), 10mm, front axle (if you plan on reusing stock SRT wheels):
The description states these are for rear fitment only, however I've run them with no issues on the front. I am by no means telling to to attempt the same; do so at your own risk.
10mm Eibach Pro Spacer Kit
Important Notes
* Stock dust shield will require some modification. [front and rear]
* The stock bracket bolts will work without augmentation. [front and rear]
* The rear wheels and calipers are a direct fit.
The Install
As we've seen before, these clampers are certainly much larger than factory and well, larger than most. Truly something to behold.
As it says above, you will need to trim your dust shield to get these puppies into place. Here you can see the special mounting bracket bolted into the spindle. The exact cuts (which are simple) are seen below.
Here's a quick mock-up with the caliper bolted back into the bracket. Note that the stock SRT-6 rotor is still in place here and is obviously not compatible.
Can't hazard a guess as to why the front and rear rotor retaining screws are different, but here's a respective shot for reference.
This is where your 5mm Hex key and T30 Torx come in. I adapted my bit with a 1/4 ratchet as the rear axle screw was a bit snug.
When I set out to undertake this project, I wanted to experience it for myself. That is, to go at it as if it had never been attempted, to appreciate it the way those who've pioneered the upgrade have. (Read: Sucker for punishment)
That aside, I've learned quite a bit and I don't [yet] regret taking the harder route.
Also, this guide assumes a general knowledge of brakes, bleeding and installing hardware. This is not intended to be an exhaustive step-by-step build.
As others have done, I'll be upgrading the stock 2x4 piston calipers for a set of SLK55 AMG 6 piston/4 piston clampers. The factory rotors will go from 330mm (13.0") to 345mm (14.6") up front, and 300mm (11.8") to 330mm (13.0") for the rear.
(Thanks to RED DOG for the calipers, and Rudy for the brackets.)
———————————
Tools Needed
Floor jack and jack stands (easier than having your buddy hold up the car)
(3/8" or 1/2") 10mm Caliper Bolt Hex Socket (impact compatible recommended)
(3/8" or 1/2") 18mm Socket (impact compatible recommended)
(3/8" due to clearance) 5/8" standard depth socket (rear caliper mounting bolts
5mm Hex Key (front rotor retaining screw)
Torx T30 bit (rear rotor retaining screw)
Torx T40 bit for front pad wear sending unit coupler
Torx T45 bit for front caliper mounts
Brake Bleed Kit (part Advance Auto Parts #AC3310)
Dremel with cutting wheel or angle grinder
Impact gun
Fresh DOT 3/4 brake fluid (LOTS!)
Brake cleaner or Carb cleaner
Loc-tite (blue)
Parts Needed
Replacement brake pad wear sensors (stock ones become brittle and are prone to breakage when removing). Mercedes part #210-540-1117
Custom caliper brackets (front). You can get these from Rudy (rcompart) on these very forums.
Front axle set of 345mm rotors: R1 Concepts (slotted and drilled, variants exist)
Pads: Centric Posi Quiet (Semi-Metallic)
Rear axle set of 330mm rotors: GENUINE brand via CARiD
Pads: CENTRIC Posi Quiet (Semi Metallic) 10409840
Laminated, SS-braided brake lines (brakes are off, why not):
Front Pair
Rear Pair
Set of wheel spacers (with longer bolts), 10mm, front axle (if you plan on reusing stock SRT wheels):
The description states these are for rear fitment only, however I've run them with no issues on the front. I am by no means telling to to attempt the same; do so at your own risk.
10mm Eibach Pro Spacer Kit
Important Notes
* Stock dust shield will require some modification. [front and rear]
* The stock bracket bolts will work without augmentation. [front and rear]
* The rear wheels and calipers are a direct fit.
The Install
As we've seen before, these clampers are certainly much larger than factory and well, larger than most. Truly something to behold.
As it says above, you will need to trim your dust shield to get these puppies into place. Here you can see the special mounting bracket bolted into the spindle. The exact cuts (which are simple) are seen below.
Here's a quick mock-up with the caliper bolted back into the bracket. Note that the stock SRT-6 rotor is still in place here and is obviously not compatible.
Can't hazard a guess as to why the front and rear rotor retaining screws are different, but here's a respective shot for reference.
This is where your 5mm Hex key and T30 Torx come in. I adapted my bit with a 1/4 ratchet as the rear axle screw was a bit snug.
Last edited by S. Artee; 07-01-2014 at 12:25 PM.
Re: Yet Another AMG Brake Upgrade How-To
Did a fair bit of searching and found a 2-piece set for around $1,200 for a pair. Decided to go the 345mm route for starters since I wasn't sure about finding replacement friction ring screws in the aftermarket.
However, my theory at this stage is that since we're talking about 6lbs difference per on the front rotors, while the calipers are decidedly lighter, it may be a negligible difference.. Hopefully a wash.
However, my theory at this stage is that since we're talking about 6lbs difference per on the front rotors, while the calipers are decidedly lighter, it may be a negligible difference.. Hopefully a wash.
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I really wanted to keep all the images in one post for easy reference and printing, but the forum only allows 10 images per post...
Anyway, this really messes up my timeline but here's todays notes and pictures...
The parts I ordered finally came in. As I mentioned earlier to Ant, I decided to go with a 1-piece set for the front, but R1 sent the wrong ones, so those will be going back. The pads and stainless lines appear to be fine however.
I test fitted the black rotors pictured above, but they were VERY off-sized for the setup. Take the overhang pictured here and increase it by 15-20mm. Oy... -So here's the stock rotor back in place, overhangs pictured. After some consideration, I think I may just stick with the 1-piece 345mm rotors.
But this poses an interesting question, as it appears the P-30 upgrade package on the R171 SLK fitted 360mm rotors (340mm 2-piece for the C32 AMG). The question being, why all the extra rotor width, when the radii for the pad surface only reaches ~170mm from hub center?
Anyway, this really messes up my timeline but here's todays notes and pictures...
The parts I ordered finally came in. As I mentioned earlier to Ant, I decided to go with a 1-piece set for the front, but R1 sent the wrong ones, so those will be going back. The pads and stainless lines appear to be fine however.
I test fitted the black rotors pictured above, but they were VERY off-sized for the setup. Take the overhang pictured here and increase it by 15-20mm. Oy... -So here's the stock rotor back in place, overhangs pictured. After some consideration, I think I may just stick with the 1-piece 345mm rotors.
But this poses an interesting question, as it appears the P-30 upgrade package on the R171 SLK fitted 360mm rotors (340mm 2-piece for the C32 AMG). The question being, why all the extra rotor width, when the radii for the pad surface only reaches ~170mm from hub center?
Last edited by S. Artee; 01-24-2014 at 02:53 PM.
Re: Yet Another AMG Brake Upgrade How-To
So the saga continues... I've confirmed that the stock SRT wheels lack enough rear offset to mount flush to the rotor hat on the front. Basically, they bottom-out against the wide arsed 6-piston calipers.
I ordered a pair of spacers (10mm) for the front. I thought about going 5mm, but I don't think the surfaces will mate up. The parts are going on tonight, so we'll see!
I ordered a pair of spacers (10mm) for the front. I thought about going 5mm, but I don't think the surfaces will mate up. The parts are going on tonight, so we'll see!
Last edited by S. Artee; 01-24-2014 at 02:46 PM.
Re: Yet Another AMG Brake Upgrade How-To
I recently sold a set of 6/4 pots to a forum member, and I'm sure he's going to be watching this thread closely to see if the stock wheels will fit with 10mm spacers.
Pay close attention when you mock-up the spacer that if fully seats against the rotor. None of my larger spacers (15mm, 20mm, and 25mm) fit properly up front, but my 5mm spacers do. Hate for you to install the spacers, find out they don't fit, and then get refused a refund due to scratches. On the other hand, if they don't work, put them on the back and maybe 5's will work on the front. If you're going to space the fronts out, have you considered moving the rears out to match?
Have you checked fitment on the rears?
Pay close attention when you mock-up the spacer that if fully seats against the rotor. None of my larger spacers (15mm, 20mm, and 25mm) fit properly up front, but my 5mm spacers do. Hate for you to install the spacers, find out they don't fit, and then get refused a refund due to scratches. On the other hand, if they don't work, put them on the back and maybe 5's will work on the front. If you're going to space the fronts out, have you considered moving the rears out to match?
Have you checked fitment on the rears?
Last edited by grip grip; 01-24-2014 at 04:44 PM.
Re: Yet Another AMG Brake Upgrade How-To
Insofar as the caliper, yes. Haven't fit the wheel just yet. If all goes well with the spacers up front, I'll be tackling the back this weekend, and posting pics of course.
EDIT: A turn of bad fortune today, as I learned R1 does not carry a 330mm fitment. I tried running the 2004 CLK55, etc, etc... No dice. So I'll be hunting down a set, somewhere...
Last edited by S. Artee; 01-24-2014 at 11:23 PM.