Hi all,

Is there anyone in the UK can take a look at a problem with my XFire?

Symptoms:

Starts from cold first time, everytime

Once warm key in, turn, turns over but doesnt start - key out, turn, turns over but doesnt start, key out, turn, turns over but doesnt start - key out, turn, turns over and starts. Sometimes I can feel some movement on the clutch pedal before it fires, like its freed something. Sometimes it will start on the second attempt, sometimes it takes 3 or 4 tries.

Note:

Mine will also start (both from cold and warm) without being in first gear.

I would rather try and get a knowledgeable XFire enthusiast to take a look than trust a garage.

Willing to travel up to 100 miles (ish) from Preston. I'm not asking this question to get something done for free, more than happy to pay good money for your time etc - just want my pride and joy fixing, properly

P.S. If you're happy to service the car whislt its there even better. Again, happy to pay for this and will bring all the parts which you recommend.

 

Sounds like mystery no start-problem. Need to resolder some points. Might also be the crank positioning sensor. use the search and you'll find a lot on these two topics.

 

Thanks for this, its appreciated.

Hopefully someone will be along soon who can take a look at the XFire and rectify this fault for me

 

Try re-soldering the two points. if the problems still continue I would buy a new crank positioning sensor. thats what I needed to do for my old N/A.

 

Since it's a stick, could be the lock-out switch on the clutch. Switch keeps you from starting it in gear with the clutch engaged. Starting and running rough, cranshaft position sensor, no start at all, or quits when warm and no starting at all, RCM. Relay Control Modul. Bad solding on it's circuit board. There are threads on here that discuss these issues if you care to use the search feature and see which one closely describes your problem. Good luck, as I would come take a look at it, but cost might be a problem....lol

 

Why bother to take the key out? To reset just turn to 'off' and retry.
Also the car will start in any gear and neutral as long as the clutch is depressed.


If the engine turns over (cranks) then it is not the clutch lock out switch. The clutch lock out prevents the engine from turning over, otherwise you could run someone over just using the starter motor.
I would try the crankshaft position sensor replacement for a start, it is not the classic for this but it could be a variation of the symptoms and a spare CPS is not a bad thing if it does not work. The camshaft position sensor also may be a problem.
Are any codes set? That would be the very first test I would do, the check engine light may or may not be on.

 

Hi all,

Thanks for the suggestions, they are really appreciated.

I've read just about every single thread on here relating to similar issues to mine but can't find something definitive. That's why I'm asking for the help from someone with lots of knowledge about XFires

Mine doesnt run rough, or ever fail to turn over - just the exact symptoms Ive described in the first post.

 

I have edited my post above.

 

Hi,

I thought manual XFires only started when 1st gear was engaged with the clutch depressed?

 

Maybe in the UK, but not here in the Great White North.
Personally I think the safest would be that it had to be in neutral and with the pedal depressed, or just in neutral to start the engine. If the clutch failed or if your foot slipped when you are starting the car in gear it could launch with the possibilities of dire consequences.
I'd check for codes as a first step to solving the problem. Not much fails without leaving a code.

 

I dont have anything to check the codes with, I'm a complete novice when it comes to mechanics, I need help!

 

Take it to a shop that can read the codes for you, a friendly garage may do it for nothing if you are lucky. Or find a person on this forum to do it for you.
For a plane ticket I could be there Tuesday am.

 

If only Easyjet did transatlantic!!

 

Avoid the Chrysler dears for code reading, they will charge £120 + Vat to do this which only takes 10 mins max.
Look on net for your nearest Bosch Lucas agent they are all over the country. They will charge
£25 + Vat for the same thing.
They will read the fault codes collected in the cars memory chip, and print these for you, and tell you what they mean. They will then delete the codes from the car, and then give you the chance to experience/repeat the fault again, and then read the code again to prove that the repeated code is the issue. Now you have a chance of getting fixed without wandering in the dark. Then ask them for a quote to fix it
When you have got that bit sorted, if you need a service PM me!

 

Cheers Steve - good advice. Once sorted will contact you re the service

 

[quote=onehundred80]Maybe in the UK, but not here in the Great White North.
Personally I think the safest would be that it had to be in neutral and with the pedal depressed, or just in neutral to start the engine. If the clutch failed or if your foot slipped when you are starting the car in gear it could launch with the possibilities of dire consequences.

I always start with the clutch depressed but it will start without touching the clutch