Crossfire Coupe A place to discuss Coupe specific topics.

Radar Detectors

Thread Tools
 
  #21 (permalink)  
Old 10-26-2014, 08:43 AM
ala_xfire's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Lineville, AL
Age: 79
Posts: 12,783
Received 153 Likes on 141 Posts
Default Re: Radar Detectors

Originally Posted by nickwe21
I guess Passport is the way to go. I will look into it, read some reviews check out prices and maybe I'll buy one!
It would be pretty cool to have that GPS feature though as in my rural area I always get tons and tons of false alarms. It's not like you could really speed there anyways since the traffic is pretty bad but it just gets annoying when it goes off every 10 seconds.
Why do you get tons of alarms in a RURAL area ?
Why can't you speed in a RURAL area ? Too many tractors and hay wagons on the road ?
Where are you located anyway ?
 
  #22 (permalink)  
Old 10-26-2014, 10:10 AM
pizzaguy's Avatar
Administrator
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
Age: 64
Posts: 13,457
Received 885 Likes on 689 Posts
Default Re: Radar Detectors

Originally Posted by Goldwing
Secondly, any trooper with a knowledge of radar detectors (and they all do) would just set up next to one of those false alarms and use it to mask his signal. Gotcha. Even when I am pretty sure it is a traffic warning using K or Ka to trigger sign illumination, I still slow down since a clever trooper could be lying in wait, hidden by the radar you expect. They have a ton of these on the PA Tpk.
My Escort 95000i is smarter than that. It remembers and displays the frequency of the signal (to within 1 megahertz). As you approach the area of the false signal, it won't alert on the false signal, which is usually X Band. Should there be another signal there, it will alert on it and display the 'new' frequency. Being a "radio nut" this is what is kinda fun about the Escort - some counties are using Xband for their microwave hops between tower sites and with the Escort with me, I can tell what tower sites are doing so (which has nothing to do with police radar, it's just interesting because I work in the Land Mobile industry).

But as you and Doc have pointed out, radar detectors are less effective today, with officers using instant on radar - but they are not INEFFECTIVE, mine has alerted on many a small-town officer (usually small town officers) sitting somewhere watching traffic.
 
  #23 (permalink)  
Old 10-26-2014, 12:41 PM
oledoc2u's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: IN
Age: 70
Posts: 14,576
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
Default Re: Radar Detectors

Another war story and Pizza Mark, will relate to this more since he understands the systems. Having time on our hands, and radar detectors becoming so popular years ago, we decided to have some fun. Being a small community, we placed a car at the start of a 30 mph zone we were having trouble enforcing. His unit was left on. People obviously slowed down until they would get a mile down the road, and even though they still were receiving a signal, they knew they weren't being pursued and would speed up. We did this for a few weeks. People became accustomed to this and would return to speeding ignoring their detectors and the officer. I used my plain car with the use of instant on feature to start enforcing the limit by setting up a mile down the road. The detectors were useless since they were receiving a signal already. It didn't take long that no one would speed on that 3 mile section of road.
 
  #24 (permalink)  
Old 10-27-2014, 08:28 AM
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: St. Augustine,Florida
Age: 66
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: Radar Detectors

I had a escort. I always thought it was just something to play with, never trusted it. My thoughts are never be the fastest car, just follow him at a safe distance.
 
  #25 (permalink)  
Old 10-27-2014, 05:20 PM
RED DOG's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Key Largo FL . . . The fabulous Florida Keys
Age: 75
Posts: 2,876
Received 28 Likes on 25 Posts
Default Re: Radar Detectors

I drive ALOT of miles and if I'm not running with my radar detector I feel like I'm driving "blind". Using a radar detector is not about being able to speed with immunity from speeding tickets. If you're out there running way too fast in the left lane it's only a matter of time before you get picked off (and you deserve to be picked off). A good radar detector provides situational awareness. Radar detectors help to make you a more alert driver, make you aware of your surroundings and keep you from running faster than the flow of surrounding traffic.

Historically travelers had to protect themselves from armed highway robbers. These days the police have become the armed highway robbers. A good radar detector can only help to keep you from being the one "chosen" to have your pockets fleeced.

My opinion is not intended to offend anyone (Doc). I have great respect for the highly trained and dedicated law enforcement officers who put themselves at risk to protect and serve the public. It is only when they are misdirected to prey on the motoring public for the thinly veiled purpose of collecting revenue that they can become little more than armed highway robbers. Just my humble opinion.
 

Last edited by RED DOG; 10-27-2014 at 05:40 PM.
  #26 (permalink)  
Old 10-27-2014, 05:30 PM
Big Daddy's Avatar
Forum Regular
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Age: 60
Posts: 336
Received 12 Likes on 6 Posts
Default Re: Radar Detectors

I had purchased a radar detector before I drove my car home from the point of purchase in Florida and the only thing it detected were State Troopers as they passed me on I95 and (i kid you not) cows in farmers fields...
 
  #27 (permalink)  
Old 10-27-2014, 05:37 PM
RED DOG's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Key Largo FL . . . The fabulous Florida Keys
Age: 75
Posts: 2,876
Received 28 Likes on 25 Posts
Default Re: Radar Detectors

Originally Posted by Big Daddy
I had purchased a radar detector before I drove my car home from the point of purchase in Florida and the only thing it detected were State Troopers as they passed me on I95 and (i kid you not) cows in farmers fields...
I hope you put it away before you crossed the border into Canada. Think about this . . . if "they" really wanted you to slow down to improve safety on the roadways, why would they make radar detectors illegal in Canada? Clearly they DON'T really want you to slow down . . . They want you to be defenseless so they can easily take your money!
Oh . . . like sheep to the slaughter . . .
 
  #28 (permalink)  
Old 10-27-2014, 06:17 PM
oledoc2u's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: IN
Age: 70
Posts: 14,576
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
Default Re: Radar Detectors

The law makers took away detectors in DOT certified trucks long ago. It was deemed for safety reasons. This was done during the 55 mph days. Speed limits for big trucks is growing across the nation to 70 mph again, and detectors aren't really needed. Most of us still use CB radios, and monitor where the officers are. As I stated earlier, on open roads I rarely enforced anything under 15 over, and most troopers are like that. But, with the growing limit now at 70, I would say that has shrunk to 10 over, so running 80 in a 70 isn't going to get you stopped for the most part. But anything over, and you are toast. Now, in smaller jurisdictions, you better be down to 5 over or less. I always concentrated on the guy in a hurry, weaving in and out of traffic, hauling *** if you will. Passing on the right, tailgating, flashing lights, honking horns....if that is you? Grab your ***. That is who they are looking for. I won't say there aren't those who love to run speed traps. We were on the national register as a speed trap here in Cicero, and probably still are. You can probably thank me for that. WE have a section of road with out side walks, where the speed limit is 30 mph. We try to keep people to under 40. And we were writing a lot of citations as it is a popular short cut. Speed limits are there for a reason, and traffic studies are done to justify those limits. Studies include number of accidents, number of vehicles traveling the road at peak times, and intersections, whether residential or commercial, etc, etc. There will always be the cat and mouse game of speeding, just do it where there isn't a lot of heavy traffic and you should be fine. Cops only enforce areas they are assigned to, and usually for a good reason.
 
  #29 (permalink)  
Old 10-27-2014, 07:12 PM
Big Daddy's Avatar
Forum Regular
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Age: 60
Posts: 336
Received 12 Likes on 6 Posts
Default Re: Radar Detectors

Originally Posted by RED DOG
I hope you put it away before you crossed the border into Canada. Think about this . . . if "they" really wanted you to slow down to improve safety on the roadways, why would they make radar detectors illegal in Canada? Clearly they DON'T really want you to slow down . . . They want you to be defenseless so they can easily take your money!
Oh . . . like sheep to the slaughter . . .

I returned the unit to a Walmart just before entering Canada...and most cops here now use laser so no need for it. Wish there was something we could use to even out the odds
 
  #30 (permalink)  
Old 10-27-2014, 07:13 PM
nickwe21's Avatar
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,068
Received 80 Likes on 69 Posts
Default Re: Radar Detectors

Originally Posted by ala_xfire
Why do you get tons of alarms in a RURAL area ?
Why can't you speed in a RURAL area ? Too many tractors and hay wagons on the road ?
Where are you located anyway ?
Haha sorry about that I meant to say in the city. I'm located in St. Pete Beach Florida and tons of false alarms up and down the beach as well as in Tampa. I used to love my radar detector heading on I-275 towards Miami and down alligator alley. It used to beep a long ways before the state trooper ever appeared on the side of the road.
Sorry for the confusion. I knew I shouldn't post after a few beers
 
  #31 (permalink)  
Old 10-27-2014, 07:22 PM
nickwe21's Avatar
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,068
Received 80 Likes on 69 Posts
Default Re: Radar Detectors

Originally Posted by oledoc2u
Another war story and Pizza Mark, will relate to this more since he understands the systems. Having time on our hands, and radar detectors becoming so popular years ago, we decided to have some fun. Being a small community, we placed a car at the start of a 30 mph zone we were having trouble enforcing. His unit was left on. People obviously slowed down until they would get a mile down the road, and even though they still were receiving a signal, they knew they weren't being pursued and would speed up. We did this for a few weeks. People became accustomed to this and would return to speeding ignoring their detectors and the officer. I used my plain car with the use of instant on feature to start enforcing the limit by setting up a mile down the road. The detectors were useless since they were receiving a signal already. It didn't take long that no one would speed on that 3 mile section of road.
Sounds like what your co-workers have been doing on my island for a while. First they set up one of those signs that electronically display your speed limit and whether you need to slow down. This was there for about 4 weeks and obviously set off every radar detector passing by...then out of nowhere they set up a speed trap shortly after that measuring sign and I'm sure lots of folks got "screwed". On the other hand, the sign had been there for a while and said "slow down" when going over the limit so it's kinda like "I told ya so"
 
  #32 (permalink)  
Old 10-27-2014, 07:25 PM
Big Daddy's Avatar
Forum Regular
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Age: 60
Posts: 336
Received 12 Likes on 6 Posts
Default Re: Radar Detectors

Originally Posted by oledoc2u
The law makers took away detectors in DOT certified trucks long ago. It was deemed for safety reasons. This was done during the 55 mph days. Speed limits for big trucks is growing across the nation to 70 mph again, and detectors aren't really needed. Most of us still use CB radios, and monitor where the officers are. As I stated earlier, on open roads I rarely enforced anything under 15 over, and most troopers are like that. But, with the growing limit now at 70, I would say that has shrunk to 10 over, so running 80 in a 70 isn't going to get you stopped for the most part. But anything over, and you are toast. Now, in smaller jurisdictions, you better be down to 5 over or less. I always concentrated on the guy in a hurry, weaving in and out of traffic, hauling *** if you will. Passing on the right, tailgating, flashing lights, honking horns....if that is you? Grab your ***. That is who they are looking for. I won't say there aren't those who love to run speed traps. We were on the national register as a speed trap here in Cicero, and probably still are. You can probably thank me for that. WE have a section of road with out side walks, where the speed limit is 30 mph. We try to keep people to under 40. And we were writing a lot of citations as it is a popular short cut. Speed limits are there for a reason, and traffic studies are done to justify those limits. Studies include number of accidents, number of vehicles traveling the road at peak times, and intersections, whether residential or commercial, etc, etc. There will always be the cat and mouse game of speeding, just do it where there isn't a lot of heavy traffic and you should be fine. Cops only enforce areas they are assigned to, and usually for a good reason.

Unfortunately our speed limit for the most is 60mph with long straight roads, Most drivers will push to 70 or 69 as the magic # not to get bumped up top a larger fine. I believe that 70 should be enough with today's car (vs those made ion the 50-80's) and most new roads built over the past 2 decades have better banking and rain roll off angles to help prevent skidding and hydroplaning in most conditions. All this does not help with the lack of driver ability or capabilities. This is why in my opinion we should never have our own version of the Autobahn
 
  #33 (permalink)  
Old 10-27-2014, 07:32 PM
oledoc2u's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: IN
Age: 70
Posts: 14,576
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
Default Re: Radar Detectors

60 is a little slow for a rural interstate for sure. I don't like states like mine, that mix the limit. trucks a slower speed than cars. Michigan really sucks. 60/70.... Talk about close calls. But, no speed limit is ever going to be perfect for everyone. I don't mind detectors, so don't get me wrong. If you think they help, by all means use them. Just don't depend on them alone. Now, for a place like the Dragon, they will let you know if you have company in the area or not, so I do see them useful for those situations....
 
  #34 (permalink)  
Old 10-27-2014, 07:40 PM
Big Daddy's Avatar
Forum Regular
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Age: 60
Posts: 336
Received 12 Likes on 6 Posts
Default Re: Radar Detectors

I was surprised to the lack of CB chatter on the way from Detroit to the Dragon then to Florida then back to Canada, I cruised with the traffic and was fast enough. but saw many Troopers on the sides well hidden and yet only a few "smokie" alerts.
 
  #35 (permalink)  
Old 10-27-2014, 08:14 PM
oledoc2u's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: IN
Age: 70
Posts: 14,576
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
Default Re: Radar Detectors

since the limits have been raised to 70, most trucking companies, not mine, have limited their trucks to 68 or less. The CDL license carries points whether it is a warning or not, so most trucks aren't pushing the limit that much, and because of that, not much to talk about. Few cars have radios anymore....you just have to ask, but ask like you are in a big rig....lol My new tractor, is governed to the slow speed of 90.... darn it....
 
  #36 (permalink)  
Old 10-28-2014, 05:26 PM
Goldwing's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Holland MI
Posts: 2,753
Received 30 Likes on 26 Posts
Default Re: Radar Detectors

Oledoc, you'll have to share some of those secrets. I saw mention of using the known radar to mask a real trap twice after I mentioned it.

If I have to rant -- I wish something could be done about tailgaters, those driving way under the limit in the left lane, those that pull in and out of lanes trying to save 30 seconds and causing everyone else to slam on their brakes, etc. Someone driving 10-20 over by themselves on the open highway is not much risk, other than to themselves and the occasional squirrel or deer.

Penalizing speeders is like calling offsides in ice hockey while ignoring the slashing, tripping, and charging (see rant again). In other words, ignoring the truly dangerous and harmful stuff.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Sweet2002
Crossfire SRT6
14
12-11-2015 09:41 AM
faiz23
Crossfire Coupe
7
04-20-2009 02:59 PM
sonoronos
General
38
10-02-2008 11:42 AM
Herman Munster
Crossfire Roadster
18
08-29-2008 04:29 PM
liketheride
Audio, Video and Electronics
22
10-14-2005 06:10 AM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Quick Reply: Radar Detectors



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:03 PM.