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Default Re: Weird electrical issue that fried the fan wire, and causes to run for a while the

Originally Posted by pizzaguy
Based on a fourty year career in component-level electronics with an emphasis the first 28 years on automotive electronics, I disagree. It takes ONE heavy spike on the 12 volt feed to destroy a module(s). In 2016, I went to put up my top with the engine not running, the spike in the system from that big motor in the pump cutting out JUST ONCE, took out my airbag module.
What do you base your "Should" statement on?


First, that is one module, there are many others. Second, if the SKREEM fails, even with the "SKREEM delete", you are still going to have an issue. The "SKREEM delete" is not a total delete, it's just a mod that makes the ECU not ask the SKREEM for permission to start. You still would have no remote lock/unlock.


Easy.
1) With a cold engine, start car with A/C off. Fan must not run.
2) Turn A/C on, fan should run slow, about 100 rpm. Fan must run slowly.
2A) Turn the A/C off and observe that the fan stops. (Engine must be COLD, needle must be well below 1/2 mark for steps 1 and 2.)

Now do either 3 or 4:
3) Let engine heat, when temp needed gets to just above 1/2, the fan should start moving and speed up such that the needle never moves past the mark that the fan started moving.

4) Find the little gray wire going into the FCM, this is the bi-directional data line to the ECU.
4A) Cut the gray wire with wire cutters.
4B) These two things must happen:
.... The little "Radiator light" on the instrument panel comes on.
... THe fan, in about 15 seconds, ramps up to "warp speed" so fast and loud people look and wonder what you are doing.


If all the above happens, the module is fine. Until you cut the gray wire, the radiator light should not come on.

5A) Shut engine/key off.
5B) Using wire strippers and a "pink/red butt splice", splice the gray wire back together.
5C) Start engine.
5D) The radiator light" should not come on, and the fan should should not run unless the engine has heated up to about 1/2.

If all the above checks out, the FCM (Fan Control Module) is fine.
Thank you for all the advice and I definitely, will heed your warning, by no means I'd want you to think that I was questioning it. You are a 100% right about a spike in voltage. But in this Crossfire, I think every airbag was deployed except for the steering wheel one (very difficult to find a cedar-colored one) and the passenger side is deactivated with the key in the side of the door (so I'll never have to replace the dash). Also the other module that you mentioned I believe the one in the trunk for the pneumatic system and the convertible roof was water damaged I pieced together a board I never got it working right so I just lower the top manually every once in awhile.

I was just experimenting a little bit just to get the car into a more secure area so I could work on the rest comfortably.

I'm going to do the test that you said with the gray wire. I found a fan control module really cheap for like 30 something bucks free shipping and a new fan for 90 bucks.

When I change all that out I'll let you guys know the results.

Thank you again for all the time, the effort and the solid advice I truly do appreciate it.
 
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