when you need to remove oil from the engine, transmission, or gear box at the rear, how do you do it?
sucking it with a pump like this? or just letting it flow by gravity?
what is your experience?

thanks

 

I use this sucker :
https://www.nationaltoolwarehouse.co...RoCYwoQAvD_BwE

 

The MityVac unit is a good one. I've got a similar siphon pump, but have never used it on the Crossfire. Wait - Let me correct that previous statement.

After I performed an oil change quite a few years back, I filled the engine with what I thought was 8.5 quarts of new oil, attempting to get the 8 liters required for an oil change. Shortly after, wife & I went to a XFire ToD Weekend event. While driving those NC/TN roadways, the high oil level warning kept coming on. This occurred off & on all weekend. When I got back home, I siphoned out about a 1/2 quart of oil. High level warning never came back on. From that point on, I only pore 8 quarts of oil in the engine during an oil change.

Anyway, back to the original thread subject. I'm sorta "old school". Whenever I perform an oil change, I like to "drain" the oil rather than siphon out the oil. Guess I just like crawling around under a car on my back! Actually, this technique gives me the opportunity to perform a cursory inspection under the car for any leaks and/or potential issues (e.g., worn boots on the steering linkage) that would need to be addressed.

 

I slightly warm up the engine, run the driver side wheels onto short pieces of 2 x 4 and suck the oil out of the dip stick tube, I let it sit over night and suck the remaining oil out. Meanwhile the filter is loose and has been sitting in its bore draining.
The result is most of the oil is removed and the filter is reasonably dry.
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My 2005 s take 8 quarts and the 2004 takes 8.5 quarts. Maybe they changed something but not the manual. Anyway I always put in 8 quarts and check / ad as needed.

 

Great techique! Especially, providing sufficient time for the filter to drain back into the engine before removing it. It is nice to have the filter on top of the engine; but if not careful, removing it can make a mess!

 

The only way to remove oil from the differential is with a suction. It won't gravity flow out unless you lift the car with a crane hanging it from one end.

 

I use the same.

 

Another post says to warm up the oil with a drive and then carefully loosen the fill plug to make sure it will come out. Then carefully remove the drain plug.

 

Brilliant!

 

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Sometimes, ppl overthink everything, even oil changes. Does ANYONE really think an ounce or five (of old oil) really matters to a motor? It is all arguably minutia to think a small amount of used oil would have an effect on an intricate heavy duty steel and aluminum machined automotive motor massed produced even today. Geeeze…. Imagine how much ppl obsessed over the old cast/steel machined loosely fine machined bearing'ed motors of yesteryear? Sure, todays engines are slightly more in close tolerences but they are hardly designed to stand the fires of a volcano, nor the cold emptiness of deep space! Get real!


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And geeeze George, you are rambling. What does the above have to do with oil changing?

 

I understand George's comment above, and it is somewhat a rambling but nothing that is offensive to anyone. For me, the various techniques shared in this thread have been interesting to review. While I don't think I am going to change how I perform an oil change, learning how other owners take care of this preventive maintenance on the Crossfire is thought provoking.

 

I drain mine as I stated because that way I can get 8 litres into the car with no problem, others say they get the overfill signal, not me I can tip 8 litres in without stopping.

The reason they cannot is because some of the old oil is caught in the engine in various places.
These engines are all the same and will take the full amount of oil if drained properly, so I do a good drain. Not like some shops who pull the plug or suck it out and immediately start adding the fresh oil when the oil flows to a trickle, it is amazing how much oil will come out after it has slowed down to a trickle.

 

George, ppl are going craycray about the little bit of oil left in the motor (always doing it from the bottom, never sucking it out of the dipstick tube, leaving it drain all night), like it is detrimental to a clean motor that will ruin it over months or years. Most of the replies here are about getting that last little bit out. That's what it has to do with oil changing, guess I should have rambled on a little more but it seemed obvious to me.



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found a video on changing oil, that is so well presented, so many details that i havent seen anywhere, that i would like to bring.

https://howtune.com/articles/93-chan...sler-crossfire

enjoy!
i wish that were videos so well made for any other subjects too.