Hello all,

Just to let you Canadian know that Upsolute chip tuning is available in Toronto, Canada. If interested, visit us at www.10xtuning.com

Gary

 

Thanks, I think I got your card already from a contact.
Haven't decided if I want to go that route; have to justify dollars spent vs h.p. gain.

I went to the Upsolute site and noticed that there is no data base info on the Xfire.
Also, the PT Cruiser h.p. specs; is that at the wheel horsepower?

 

Hi,

The Crossfire is basically similiar to the Mercedes SLK320 as it uses the same engine, chassis, ECU, etc... Basically for the Crossfire with the Upsolute chip, it's 18-20HP gain and 20-22lb-ft torque gain withpower increase throughout the whole powerband. At the same time you get smoother and quicker throttle repsonse and better gas mileage with performace!

For the PT Cruiser, they can only chip the Diesel version which is available in Europe. For gasoline models here in North America, they use different types of ECU which we cannot chip yet.

Gary

 

Thanks for your reply;

I would imagine that this chip has been programmed on the basis that it would be installed in a factory spec car in every way. What happens when you have modified your engine or exhaust in some way. I have converted to full dual exhaust and have played with air intake to allow less restriction. Does this have a negative affect on the horsepower/torque gains you stated?

 

Well, power gains does not stack up. For example, the chip adds 15hp, the exhaust adds 8hp, the intake adds 7hp which totals up to 30hp, but this is not true. It would maybe be more like 22hp with all the mods.

The ECU's are able to readjust fuel trim by up to a difference of 25%, so it will be fine with the mods you specified. You should be worried when you go with more extensive modifications like camshafts, port & polish, etc.. and a custom program is recommended

Gary

 

That is what I mean when I stated that I'm not sure that dollar spent would justify the added h.p. gained. I'm speaking from the point of what I have done now and then adding the chip.

The exhaust was changed primarily for the better sound and to free up the exhaust side. The air intake change is inexpensive and helps free up the front intake side. Based on what you have said, the added chip might add 10-15 h.p. at most in my case.

I will still be keeping this under consideration for the spring.

 

Well, the chip will at the same time improve throttle response and also improve gas mileage as well.

 

Just checking if any of you guys in Canada is interested in a groupbuy for Upsolute chips? I'm currently running a groupbuy for Mercedes models, I'll see if I can combine the Crossfires with the Mercedes, since it has a Mercedes chass/engine/ecu afterall...

Gary

 

Gary:
If, for some reason, the dealership has to flash your chip, does it still continue to work with the hp gain or does it revert back to the stock Xfire tuning? I think I already know the answer but it costs nothing to ask, to be sure.
Also, I will be in Edmonton in August and I know that you have a dealership there also, so, does the possible group discount apply to only your location or is it to all members in all locations.

 

Hi Bob,

The dealership can reflash the Upsolute program back to factory program. We will reflash it back to Upsolute for free if it ever happens. That is why Upsolute chips are undetectable by the dealerships with their diagnostic tools, because they can be reflashed and we use all factory chips for reflashing.

We are located in Toronto and the groupbuy pricing will only be valid through us. You can always ship your ECU to us. We provide free next day return shipping as well.

Gary

 

Gary:
Thanks for the straight answer, I appreciate it! Is the ECU the same as the ECModual in the manual as it doesn't mention anything about an ECU? Is it just a pull out to disconnect and if shipped to you, what should it be insured for, in case it goes into mail haven?
As long as I am asking all these questions, here's two more! When and if I install a super charger, will this chip "play well with others?"
What would the member price be?

 

The ECU is located inside a black plastic box near the passenger side fender. The lid is held by 2 clips. Just unclip the clips and inside you will see the ECU. There should be 5 plugs attached to the ECU, just unplug it all and ship it to me. It's best to pack it in a anti-static bag (the ones you get from buy computer hardware).

About the insurance, we had no problems with lost packages ever, but if you want to be on the safe side, insure it for around $800-1000 as a new one is around that price. Remember to ship it with tracking available via Fedex or UPS.

The chip will not work well with a supercharger as the ignition timing is advanced too much and will cause knocking and detonation which will lead to engine damage.

I'm waiting for a reply from the headquarters to see if I can include the Crossfires into the Mercedes groupbuy. If they are ok with it, the groupbuy pricing will be $540cdn installed. We provide free next day return shipping if needed. We will ship the ECU out back the same day we receive it if possible, if not it will be next business day.

Hope I answered all your questions.
Gary

 

Gary
So it is the Powertrain Control Module that we are talking about. They don't call it an ECU in the manual. I will probably take you up on it but I am waiting for nicer weather so I can run a base line on my Xfire. This way I can see the benifits of any modifications. I bought a GTech Pro to test it out.
Thank You again!
PS: At that price and the exchange rate, the US members would probably benifit too.
Thank You

 

The powertrain control module should be the transmission computer. Mercedes usually calls it ECM (Engine Control Module).

If you are interested, I can put you on the list. The headquarters just replied and said they will include the crossfires into the Mercedes GB as well. I have around 4 guys in the Mercedes GB now, so it will take probably around a month to get enough guys.

I'm gonna start a new thread for the GB.

Gary