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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 10:49 AM
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Question Tire Rotation

Some advice needed here. Can anyone tell me how or if the tires can or should be rotated on the crossfire. Most vehicles recommend front to back however that would not be practical with different size wheels. Is there any benefit from left to right ??
 
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 10:55 AM
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The owners manual recommends a left-right rotation.

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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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Aren't the tires directional? Meaning if you switch left to right, your tread will be backwards.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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Certainly true on some such as Goodyear F1's.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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And I can tell the Mich. Pilot sports are rotational too, so you can't rotate them.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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Here's something to consider - especially for autocross people...
Directional tires grip better going forward than they do going back - better traction when accelerating etc.
I don't know if they still do it nowadays, but once upon a time they used to have the front tire rotation going the wrong way (put the LH tire on the RH side... vice versa).
This gave better traction when braking.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Romio
And I can tell the Mich. Pilot sports are rotational too, so you can't rotate them.
Not true...we've been through this once before. There are no rotational arrows on the sidewalls...only the word 'outside' stamped there. If it's on the outside on the ride side...it will be on the outside when you put in on the left side.

If the side to side rotation gives you an additional 500 - 1,000 miles (or more), then I think it is worth it considering the cost of the tires. Just my .02...
 
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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The Michelin Pilot Sport is a directional tire. The Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 that came on Crossfires is not a directional tire and can be rotated side to side.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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But look at the tread, there is grooves they go from the middle out, but if you switch, the outside would hit first then go in. Aren't the grooves designed to give you better traction and shoot water on the road away? If you turn them around, then water will be push to the middle of the tire.

 
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Romio
But look at the tread, there is grooves they go from the middle out, but if you switch, the outside would hit first then go in. Aren't the grooves designed to give you better traction and shoot water on the road away? If you turn them around, then water will be push to the middle of the tire.
Looking at the tread doesn't matter. Look at the sidewall. If its a unidirectional tire you will see:

"<-- Rotation"

Clearly stamped there.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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OK maybe it's not stamped, but you can't say what i just showed you about the tread isn't true.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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The way I have directional tires rotated is to have them dismounted and remounted on the other wheel...
 
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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31k on my p-2's and still wearing even, ok petty even, I count turns, right now I'm 72 right turn up on left turns. My tyres are stamped outside with a tread pattern that would be reversed when "swapped" plus the rotation would also be reversed. Has anyone got a price on remounting and balancing?

I need go do some left turns see ya.


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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tjames.bell@gmail.com
The way I have directional tires rotated is to have them dismounted and remounted on the other wheel...
ok that makes sense. that would be the only way to do it right.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Irafatsar
31k on my p-2's and still wearing even, ok petty even, I count turns, right now I'm 72 right turn up on left turns. My tyres are stamped outside with a tread pattern that would be reversed when " swapped" plus the rotation would also be reversed. Has anyone got a price on remounting and balancing?

I need go do some left turns see ya.


Mikey
For pricing you kinda need to get a hook up from someone you know or make good friends with someone at a tire shop so you can get it done cheep. Discount tire charges $156 to dismount, remount and balance not worth the little extra mileage that you will get!!
 

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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by tjames.bell@gmail.com
For pricing you kinda need to get a hook up from someone you know or make good friends with someone at a tire shop so you can get it done cheep. Discount tire charged $156 to dismount, remount and balance not worth the little extra mileage that you will get!!
badda bing.


BTW only one week to coachella. Party time.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bobs
Looking at the tread doesn't matter. Look at the sidewall. If its a unidirectional tire you will see:

"<-- Rotation"

Clearly stamped there.
I'm starting to realize that there is no sense in trying to explain it to these guys...just like the guy in Canada who swears his car is front wheel drive. They have already convinced themselves that what they think...is the way it is and no one else, including the manufacturer, or even God, is gonna tell them otherwise. Education is impossible these days.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tjames.bell@gmail.com
…Discount tire charged $156 to dismount, remount and balance…
Damn! Which Discount did you go to? I would try another one. That is way high. You should be paying a max of $60 bucks for all 4. Do you have the OEM sized wheels?
 
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by msheredy
Damn! Which Discount did you go to? I would try another one. That is way high. You should be paying a max of $60 bucks for all 4. Do you have the OEM sized wheels?
Whoops I put "charged" I meant to put charges. The Discount Tire in Killeen TX gave me that quote when I was looking to do it I now have a friend that does it for me at another place for free.
 
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