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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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I see 3-4 a day, but usually the same ones over and over.

Yellow Roadster
Base Roadster
Black Limited Roadster x2 (one red interior, one vanilla)
Aero Blue Limited Coupe
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 10:10 PM
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fireamx thats one way to look at it. 75,000 does seem like a lot. But thinking on a day to day experience point of view. Think about how many 300s you see on the road every day, or Toyota Highlanders, or Honda Civics, and then think of how many Crossfire's you see. Thinking of it that way the XFire most definitely seems rare. I am lucky if I see one Crossfire in a week.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by irwin
hey if the magnum is gone doesnt it share the same chasis as the 300 and charger???? this doesnt seem right at and the new challenger is supposed to be built on a modified charger chasis.... that must be wrong. any hardcore mopar guys know the answer to this?
The Magnum was produced on the LX platform, remember the dodge intrepid, chrysler concord & eagle vision those were LX platform cars. The LX platform was pretty good for its time, but without upgrading as with everything its become a bit outdated.
The new Challenger is to be produced on the same platform as the chrysler 300 which is also the same platform as the charger. The magnum was a pretty hot looking wagon, it just never caught on enough to sell in decent numbers. hope this answered your question.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 04:36 AM
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NY Times
November 2, 2007

Job Cuts at Chrysler Go Even Deeper Than Expected

By MICHELINE MAYNARD
DETROIT, Nov. 1 — Over the last two years, the three American auto companies have vowed that their plans to slash nearly 80,000 jobs and close more than two dozen plants would be enough to transform them into leaner and nimbler competitors.
But the housing downturn and soaring oil prices have forced Chrysler and General Motors to make another round of surprising cuts, with no guarantees that these will be the last.
On Thursday, Chrysler announced it would eliminate 11,000 hourly and salaried jobs in the United States and Canada, and cut shifts of workers at five plants. The decision comes on top of a plan, announced in February, to eliminate 13,000 jobs and close a factory in Newark, Del.
Taken together, Chrysler will be reducing its 2006 work force of about 80,000 employees by 30 percent.
General Motors also recently said that it would eliminate shifts at three assembly plants in Michigan. The moves, announced after G.M. union workers approved their new contract, will most likely cut 3,000 jobs, though G.M. has not confirmed the total. Two years ago, G.M. announced 30,000 job cuts as part of a broad revamping.
“It does take one’s breath away to realize that the auto industry in the U.S., having gone through so much turmoil and so many rounds of cuts, is going through them yet again,” said Michael Useem, a professor of management at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania.
The recent wave of cuts shows that the United Automobile Workers contract — passed after brief strikes at G.M. and Chrysler, and now under negotiation at Ford — has offered little protection against the sagging auto market, despite union leaders insisting they got the best deal they could for workers.
The experience at G.M. and Chrysler is bound to make Ford workers more insistent on job guarantees. They may be difficult for Ford to offer, unless the U.A.W. agrees to deeper cost cuts in other aspects of the contract.
Chrysler’s new chief executive, Robert L. Nardelli, blamed sagging auto sales for the company’s steps. Chrysler developed its earlier plan in a stronger car market, Mr. Nardelli said, while still under the wing of Daimler, its former German parent.
Now, given the economic uncertainty, auto sales this year are expected to be the weakest since 1998. And Mr. Nardelli said the soft environment is expected to continue through next year.
“The market situation has changed dramatically,” he said in a statement.
Chrysler also said Thursday that it would retire four models, including the convertible version of the PT Cruiser and two models, the Dodge Magnum and Chrysler Crossfire, that were it developed during its failed merger with Daimler. Chrysler said the eliminations were based on suggestions from dealers.
The cuts at the automaker were twice as deep as some had expected and came with little warning to the factories affected by them.
“This is a huge shock for us,” said Basil E. Hargrove, president of the Canadian Auto Workers union.
The Canadian union represents workers at plants in Windsor and Brampton, Ontario, where shifts will be cut. Other factories to lose shifts are in Belvidere, Ill., Toledo, Ohio, and two plants in Detroit. Chrysler said some of the work might be restored when it introduces new models.
The U.A.W. did not comment. But one dissident union leader, Gregg Shotwell, said Chrysler’s actions threatened to create general distrust and divisiveness within the union.
Union leaders “certainly deserve to be distrusted because they misled people,” said Mr. Shotwell, whose group, Soldiers of Solidarity, campaigned against the versions of the U.A.W. contract that passed at Chrysler and G.M. “This has opened up people’s eyes.”
The cuts are an example of the new way of doing business at Chrysler, bought in August by Cerberus Capital Management, a private equity firm. Since then, the new owners have hired Mr. Nardelli, the former Home Depot chief executive, as well as James Press, a Toyota executive who is now a Chrysler’s president.
Professor Useem said the steps showed Cerberus would not hesitate to take quick action that might take months or even years at other automakers.
“Private equity is much better equipped to take the Draconian cuts” than public companies such as G.M. and Ford, he added. “It’s in their DNA to be able to make these kinds of decisions. They don’t owe anything to anybody.”
Many industry analysts have said that Cerberus’s turnaround efforts are intended to ready it for another global alliance or possibly a sale, although Mr. Nardelli has said he intends to run Chrysler as an independent player.
Long term, however, Chrysler can only survive with low costs and respectable profits, a formula that its two Detroit rivals also are trying to carry out.
The cuts are putting the U.A.W.’s president, Ron Gettelfinger, in a difficult political position. After all, he backed Cerberus despite warning that private equity owners would “strip and flip” Chrysler.
With the cuts announced Thursday, “that’s stripping,” said Gary N. Chaison, professor of industrial relations at Clark University in Worcester, Mass.
Yet, Chrysler’s owners may not have much choice. On Thursday, the company said its sales in October fell 12.5 percent on an adjusted basis compared with 2006. For the year, Chrysler sales are down 3 percent, and it ranks as the country’s fourth-biggest auto company, behind G.M., Toyota and Ford.
Chrysler has long depended heavily on big pickups, sport utilities and minivans for the bulk of its sales, shifting its lineup only recently to build more small cars and small sport utilities, as well as crossover vehicles, which are S.U.V.’s based on car underpinnings.
Thursday’s announcement showed that even plants building some of its newest and more-efficient models were not immune from cuts. The Belvidere factory, for example, builds the small Dodge Caliber.
Chrysler reiterated plans to build the Dodge Journey, a crossover, as well as the Dodge Challenger sports coupe, marking the return of the muscle car. It also said it would build hybrid-electric versions of two S.U.V.’s, the Dodge Aspen and Dodge Durango.
Nick Bunkley contributed reporting from Detroit and Ian Austen from Ottawa.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by +fireamx
But when you consider GM only built 76,371 Fieros between 1984-88, just how rare is the Crossfire really?
I think your production numbers for the Fiero are way low. According to Wikipedia, they made over 136,000 in 1984 alone. Total production was about 350,000 cars.

I think the Crossfire will be MUCH rarer as we go along. If that helps resale value that is just a bonus as far as I am concered. It is fun to own a car that gets strangers talking to me and asking about it. Hopefully the Mercedes mechanicals will help us keep them running for many years.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Sidez
exactly how i feel...

It is funny that there are no more than 400 Graphite Srt-6 coupes and there is one other one like mine in my 2sq mile town...
Sidez,
Where did you get the number "400"? If thats true, that is GREAT!!
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by rje_nc
I think your production numbers for the Fiero are way low. According to Wikipedia, they made over 136,000 in 1984 alone. Total production was about 350,000 cars.

I think the Crossfire will be MUCH rarer as we go along. If that helps resale value that is just a bonus as far as I am concered. It is fun to own a car that gets strangers talking to me and asking about it. Hopefully the Mercedes mechanicals will help us keep them running for many years.

Bob, you're absolutely correct, I researched that number for another thread and came up with 76,371 cars total (which seemed awfully low at the time). As it turns out, that was just one years production for I believe 1985.
I'm really glad you pointed out my mistake, because now I'm satisfied the Crossfire will NEVER be a commom sight on the highway. Which when you think about it, is kind of sad since they look so darn good.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 07:40 AM
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well fireamx you will always be a tad bit rarer, having one of the only xfires with a hoodscoop!
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by LantanaTX
It is too bad you can't take these to a Mercedes Dealer for warrenty service. the independeant I found to help me with some ECU programming was shocked when I opened the hood of my car. He had never been under the hood of a Crossfire. He made all his other techs stop what they were doing and come take a look. They all laughed and said it was 100% SLK320 under the hood and they would feel comfortable working on anything on the car.

I myself will be buying a servicing CD and only use a mechanic when I can't do it myself.
Where is the shop you mentioned? I am an ASE master tech myself but MB has kept so much of their products proprietary that even I can`t get the information I need on this car to be able to feel comfortable with the electronics.

I see you`re in Lantana. I worked right up the street from you on 407 at Christian Brothers Automotive until March when I transferred to the new store at Alliance.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 08:44 AM
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I knew the day would come. Take good care of your cars because the parts cost may increase quite a lot. I'm still hooked on this car so it's a definite keeper.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by WrenchJeff
Where is the shop you mentioned? I am an ASE master tech myself but MB has kept so much of their products proprietary that even I can`t get the information I need on this car to be able to feel comfortable with the electronics.

I see you`re in Lantana. I worked right up the street from you on 407 at Christian Brothers Automotive until March when I transferred to the new store at Alliance.
Krause's on Mill Street in Lewisville. They are behind the NAPA store. Robert Krause is who I am dealing with. He seems like a computer techy and has both the MB and Auto logic systems for Mercedes. He even told me he had all the engine maps for other countries. You may want to stop by. I drive by your shop all the time. What's your name and I will stop in and say hi. do you have a Crossfire?

Oops I see you no longer work there.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by mrobinso
well fireamx you will always be a tad bit rarer, having one of the only xfires with a hoodscoop!
Maybe not for long Mr.O. I've already heard from several forum members who want to duplicate it.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by LantanaTX
Krause's on Mill Street in Lewisville. They are behind the NAPA store. Robert Krause is who I am dealing with. He seems like a computer techy and has both the MB and Auto logic systems for Mercedes. He even told me he had all the engine maps for other countries. You may want to stop by. I drive by your shop all the time. What's your name and I will stop in and say hi. do you have a Crossfire?

Oops I see you no longer work there.
I know Krause`s. At Christian Brothers we sent all of our european cars to them. You have picked a good shop. They do great work, are knowledgeable and honest.

And yes I have a black `05 srt6 coupe but am working at I-35 and Western Center now.
 
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