Here is some interesting news...
It seems Chrysler is shutting down four assembly plants and may have to shut down 12 if a parts problem isn't resolved.
Here is a link -
http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/pro...204&id=8135647
Here is a link -
http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/pro...204&id=8135647
If the Challenger doesn't save Chrysler, they're done I suspect. I think even that may not save them because of the Gas issue. They should have done the Challenger project 5 years ago. Last night during the Super Bowl, Chrysler was supposed to have started a new ad campaign called "New Day." I guess they had to pull out at the last minute because they couldn't afford the ad slot. Pitty, they are hurting badly!
Originally Posted by cgocifer
If the Challenger doesn't save Chrysler, they're done I suspect. I think even that may not save them because of the Gas issue. They should have done the Challenger project 5 years ago. Last night during the Super Bowl, Chrysler was supposed to have started a new ad campaign called "New Day." I guess they had to pull out at the last minute because they couldn't afford the ad slot. Pitty, they are hurting badly!
Chrysler has a commercial out for the new Town & Country Van, which is pretty funny.
The mom tells her husband and kids ‘Lets all go fro a ride in the new Town & Country!’ as if that’s cool
. The really funny part is they get excided and listen to her (LOL). Who gets excited about a drive in a mini van (a chrysler mini van at that), its not looking good for Chrysler.
The mom tells her husband and kids ‘Lets all go fro a ride in the new Town & Country!’ as if that’s cool
Originally Posted by batchain
I agree about the bad timing of the Challenger. I can't see $40k car with a gas hungry V8 generating a whole lot of sales.
Originally Posted by Maxwell
going down in flames like AMC
I bet GM will buy it for a song one of these days.
Time to dust off the 426 and 427 blocks, put injection and current electronics on them and go racing. There won't be a need for blowers.
Well, on the bright side, the Mustang has been selling well. People have been waiting in line for the Challenger. Some people have plucked down 19 grand just to have the right to buy one! This probably is due to the first run limited avail. though. A bunch of rich dudes hoping to be the first on the block. Once the regular cars hit the show rooms, sales may halt unless they come out with a hybrid or something.
Originally Posted by cgocifer
Well, on the bright side, the Mustang has been selling well. People have been waiting in line for the Challenger. Some people have plucked down 19 grand just to have the right to buy one! This probably is due to the first run limited avail. though. A bunch of rich dudes hoping to be the first on the block. Once the regular cars hit the show rooms, sales may halt unless they come out with a hybrid or something.
GM buy Chrysler? or Ford? LOL, I doubt it. GM isn't exactly raking in the dough. They aren't gonna be buying anything. I wouldn't be surprised if Honda bought them though.
Originally Posted by cgocifer
Well, on the bright side, the Mustang has been selling well. People have been waiting in line for the Challenger.
Maxwell thanks for the chuckle!
Originally Posted by Maxwell
going down in flames like AMC
I bet GM will buy it for a song one of these days.
funny you said that.. I read an article in Hot Rod (I think) magazine about an AMC revival. They just had a bunch of drawings, but they looked pretty cool.
First, I feel bad for all the people laid off but they will find jobs elsewhere I'm sure, and for a much better managed company.
Second, I'm REALLY GLAD that the plastics supplier is shutting down. That is the first step in making a quality product. It's like everything they made was Shore A99 hardness. Ever seen the "Timex Indiglo" gauges on the Sebring? I felt like I was looking at a $3.00 watch!!
My guess is that the next thing to go is the engine, transmission and other driveline plants.
The upholstery, power and electrical, body panels, etc weren't so bad.
Second, I'm REALLY GLAD that the plastics supplier is shutting down. That is the first step in making a quality product. It's like everything they made was Shore A99 hardness. Ever seen the "Timex Indiglo" gauges on the Sebring? I felt like I was looking at a $3.00 watch!!
My guess is that the next thing to go is the engine, transmission and other driveline plants.
The upholstery, power and electrical, body panels, etc weren't so bad.
Originally Posted by woodlands1
It seems Chrysler is shutting down four assembly plants and may have to shut down 12 if a parts problem isn't resolved.
Here is a link -
http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/pro...204&id=8135647
Here is a link -
http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/pro...204&id=8135647
What that article fails to point out is that Plastech has been underdelivering the parts they promised. Last friday Chrysler had enough of dealing with them and went to go get their tooling from Plastech, only to have Plastech deny them their own tooling! These are tools Chrysler paid for and owns! Kind of like someone taking the keys to your Crossfire and not giving them to you.....you're going to be pi**ed!
As a sidenote.....some limited production is not an entirely bad thing for Chrysler......a little more time to clear some more cars off the dealer lots.
Just pay the Chrysler CEO his "parachute" money and he will be on his way (like he did at Home Depot) Lots of new minivans piled up at all the local Chrysler and Dodge dealers!
Originally Posted by tom2112
GM buy Chrysler? or Ford? LOL, I doubt it. GM isn't exactly raking in the dough. They aren't gonna be buying anything. I wouldn't be surprised if Honda bought them though.
Bad marketing, plain and simple.
Drive = love?
Engineered beautifully?
Some other Bulls hit?
Every Mercedes, BMW, Saab, Porsche, Caddilac, add that I see for any of their "image" cars has PASSION. Listen Chrysler................PASSION. They are usually bad *** and give me goose bumps. They make me want to drive their car regardless of its practicality.
They had Celine Dion marketing the Xfire with some bulls hit song. LOL terrible.
Drive = love?
Engineered beautifully?
Some other Bulls hit?
Every Mercedes, BMW, Saab, Porsche, Caddilac, add that I see for any of their "image" cars has PASSION. Listen Chrysler................PASSION. They are usually bad *** and give me goose bumps. They make me want to drive their car regardless of its practicality.
They had Celine Dion marketing the Xfire with some bulls hit song. LOL terrible.
I forsee a difficult year or 2 coming up for Chrysler, but there are some promising things on the way. A lot of the problems that they had were because of Daimlers hubris and snot-nosed bratty attitude shutting down a lot of good projects Chrysler had in the works and trying to cut costs left and right. Factor in a massive amount of mismanagement also.
Within the next couple years look for the new Phoenix engines which from what sources say are almost revolutionary in their design. They must be good enough that Mercedes will be using them to replace a lot of their current V6 lineup with these engines, but with the attitude they have will probably take credit for everything Chrysler has done with them.
http://allpar.com/mopar/phoenix-engines.html
Also Chrysler has had a dual-clutch automatically shifted manual transmission in the works since 1998, but Daimler shut that project down in its final phrases probably because they didn't liket their red-headed stepchild, Chrysler, to one-up them (like they did with the ME Four-Twelve and a few other projects). Just imagine how advanced some of Chryslers designs could have been without Daimler putting a stop to everything because of so-called "cost" reasons. That new technology will be out in a couple years as well.
http://allpar.com/corporate/auto-man...nsmission.html
Chrysler under its new leadership is now on a campaign to increase the tweak quality and perception of its current vehicles, by doing little things here and there until they can revamp their lineup to their own standard and not Daimler's. There is no denying the relationship between the "merger of equals" (cough cough) is what brought them down to the pitiful level they are at now. It is especially infuriating to me because Chrysler happens to be the company that puts food on my family's table every day.
Hell, Chrysler had close to a $40 billion cushion in the bank before a hurting Daimler took over and stole all their money. I am a fan of Mercedes-Benz and their wonderful automobiles, but as a company I am dubious of the way they operate. It will be exciting to me in the future though with Daimler and Chrysler still working together and bringing out good things without the threat of Daimler running them into the ground any further.
Within the next couple years look for the new Phoenix engines which from what sources say are almost revolutionary in their design. They must be good enough that Mercedes will be using them to replace a lot of their current V6 lineup with these engines, but with the attitude they have will probably take credit for everything Chrysler has done with them.
http://allpar.com/mopar/phoenix-engines.html
Also Chrysler has had a dual-clutch automatically shifted manual transmission in the works since 1998, but Daimler shut that project down in its final phrases probably because they didn't liket their red-headed stepchild, Chrysler, to one-up them (like they did with the ME Four-Twelve and a few other projects). Just imagine how advanced some of Chryslers designs could have been without Daimler putting a stop to everything because of so-called "cost" reasons. That new technology will be out in a couple years as well.
http://allpar.com/corporate/auto-man...nsmission.html
Chrysler under its new leadership is now on a campaign to increase the tweak quality and perception of its current vehicles, by doing little things here and there until they can revamp their lineup to their own standard and not Daimler's. There is no denying the relationship between the "merger of equals" (cough cough) is what brought them down to the pitiful level they are at now. It is especially infuriating to me because Chrysler happens to be the company that puts food on my family's table every day.
Hell, Chrysler had close to a $40 billion cushion in the bank before a hurting Daimler took over and stole all their money. I am a fan of Mercedes-Benz and their wonderful automobiles, but as a company I am dubious of the way they operate. It will be exciting to me in the future though with Daimler and Chrysler still working together and bringing out good things without the threat of Daimler running them into the ground any further.
Last edited by No Warning Shot; Feb 4, 2008 at 06:47 PM.
Good call No Warning Shot. Most people have no idea how bad Chrysler got "raped" by Mercedes-Benz. It still amazes me that people still want to blame Chrysler for all of Mercedes's woes......Mercedes quality was going straight downhill long before they acquired Chrysler.


