I've been reading threads and articles on car magazines about the Xfire being under powered, but if you take a look at this site (http://www.exoticcarsite.com/0-60-qu...mile-times.htm) and compare other cars to the Xfire you should find that you're driving a pretty good autobile with good performance and besides does a half second faster really matter that much to spend 40 grand or more on a car that goes 1 second faster and how many times have you seen someone driving an exotic car here in the state over the speed limit. Also car magazines always complain about the xfire performance but they always seem to over look the low hp performance in some mercedes,audis, porsche and their favorite BMW.

 

people have to dawg on it since it is an american car and a chrysler NO NO NO BAD BAD BAD.


This is good because if it were a MB badge i would not be able to afford it lol.

 

Wow, I was one of the people that thought my car seemed a little weak on paper. But this info changes my perspective.

 

Too bad the list doesn't go beyond the '05 models.

 

I always thought it would have been nice if Chrysler used the 3.5 engine with, what, another 20-40 hp. But I find the n/a engine to be snappy and I've had mine to 140, so it has adequate power and more than enough to get my license revoked. The SRT6 is a beast, and still a bargain compared to sports cars with equivalent performance.

 

I went down a rat hole and imported the data to a spread sheet. I posted it here - the list of cars the Crossfire SRT and N/A beat is pretty impressive. (link is small PDF sorted by 0-60 time)

Updates - Major clean up of the spread sheet and generated PDF files.

 

I personally would like another 50hp from my coupe, but I wouldn't consider it underpowered though either. The problem is that for the MSRP (mine had a sticker of 37k), it was just a very poor buy for the performance. My old GTI with a sticker of 22k was as fast, if not a touch faster and it had more features, like standard HID lights. And then you have sport compacts like the Mazdaspeed 3 and Cobalt SS turbo which are also much cheaper and much faster.

And then there are the cars the CF competes against. The 350/70z is at least a second quicker in the quarter mile and the Z4 coupe is also a fair amount quicker. The thing to remember is that magnitude of change between various measures of acceleration may not seem like a lot on paper. I mean 1 second is a very short amount of time. But the power and grip required to move a vehicle through the quarter mile 1 second quicker than another vehicle is significant. So you WILL feel the big difference between the car that runs the quarter in 15.0 and one that runs it 14.0 flat. The same holds true, generally, for 0-60.

A couple tenths doesn't mean much to me, but once a car is over half a second quicker, things are noticable quicker. But I don't think most owners bought the crossfire because of its performance. It's just a very interesting vehicle. In reality, I think the crossfire is more appropriately classed as a GT car than a true sports car.

 

It's a matter of perspective. I got mine for the low prices they sell for today. Not bad - a car that can peel back the skin on a number of Ferraris for under $15K - what's not to love!

I was a little surprised a couple months back when dicing with an old Ferrari 308 GTS and had no trouble keeping up and even leaving him behind. I don't think the guy liked it much...

Of course along comes an Aston Martin and smokes my fat a$$. Gotta know your limits

 

That's not really a fair comparison. The ferrari's you're talking about are 20+ yo cars. You could say that the crossfire is faster than any street car built prior to 1950, but so what? The VW I own is faster than my crossfire, so I must be driving a supercar!

308s and mondials aren't really that fast by any stretch of the imagination. But, like the crossfire, they are still cool cars. Owning either car isn't about speed or performance, but feel. Heck, compare the stock tire selection and size of a 308 versus any version of the crossfire.

Yeah, that's definitely true. The stock crossfire isn't really about blowning the doors off of anything. It's more about the personal enjoyment of getting behind the wheel.

 

What is the sense about bragging about you beat this or that car, its quite simple, a fast car gets beaten by a faster car. Taking those cars around a track may give you something to brag about, but only if you beat a driver as good as you in an equal performance car. Likewise at the drag strip.
In races like Le Mans we do not have the faster car drivers bragging about beating the slower class drivers.
Surely getting the best from a car is reward enough. Coming last in situations like this is no shame, crying about it is.

 

I didnt know the acura mdx was that fast haha. I think you deleted a number.

 

Nope. the source document has the same info in it. The one they tested must have been one with an aftermarket VTEC badge on it

 

I think my point was missed. Point was for $15K here's a car that performs well and looks good. By todays standards you would pay more for a good 308 and personally I don't think it's as good looking.

Another reason that the 308 was easy to keep up with or pass could have been because the driver didn't care to play around. Probably more grown up than all that.

The point I was making was that the car is a relative bargain (for me anyway), holds it's own very well in looks and relative performance.

The data is all subjective. I wonder if anyone is getting a stock N/A from zero to 60 in 6.4 seconds? I've never even tried. For me it's not about drag racing performance, its about the overall package. Except for the iconic styling of the Jag I used to have, I'd take the Crossfire over it in ever other way.

 

I'm completely satisfied with the performance of both of my cars. The Limited runs about as well as an RX-8 and the SRT is comparable to a Porsche Cayman. The Crossfire looks better than both. Sure, there are faster cars out there but aren't there always?

 

Your signature says it all - for the price of a Cayman or half of an entry-level Aston Martin you got one of each! I rest my case.

 

Yep...and I love 'em both!

 

I was with you until you said the XF looks better than the cayman. Still a much better value no doubt.

Dh

 

To me, the Cayman just looks like yet another 911 variant. It doesn't look bad. It's just...common. The Crossfire is much more distinctive.

 

My point is and was that lots of cars perform like the Crossfire. There isn't anything particularly unique or special about the performance of this car. I could buy a used mk1 Audi TT 225 coupe for the same price as your car and it would be faster than both the crossfire and the 308, while offering awd and a slightly more practical configuration. What I'm saying is that what you think is part of what makes the crossfire unique really isn't very unique. Not to mention, on the audi, it's fairly easy and inexpensive to raise the power level, which is harder to say about the crossfire and can't at all be said about the 308.


That's true. There are also other bargains that offer a similar level of performance to the crossfire.

Does it really matter? I think the packaging and the story of the crossfire are the best aspects. I kind of wish the car, overall, was more engaging to drive to be honest. It's a little bland in my experience, which to me explains why it never sold that well and why the resale on these isn't very good.