I think your right. He really started to peter out around 115 mph.

 

It had the scoops.

 

Then I don't feel so bad. I felt that I could have been further ahead of his car then I was around 80mph.

 

well, coming from vettes, Z-28s, I have seen 150 in them many times over the years, but my speedo in the XF was at 160 in 9/10th of a mile from a standing start...that my z's nor vette's could do. I had just installed the code 3 pulley...now that I have a tune, the limiter is raised to 190, but no where to try it out. This little car is more stable than my old muscle cars by far...except for the Z06, this little car is a sleeper for sure...now the new vette...that is the only car I would give up my little xf for...that is an awsom car...

 

It depends on how good you are at racing a car. You should be able to beat that year and model Transam (stock) off the line up until you hit around 60mph then you might be a nose ahead or even..but you should be ahead at 135-145mph. If your Limited is modified,not stock. Anyone in the forum that has a similar modification like TVT will tell you it really makes a huge difference in performance. I also have a 98 M3. I love the Beamer, but I enjoy driving the Limited more. Really get a bang for your buck in terms of HP per $. After driving an SRT6 I was sold. I 'll be getting that next. Do a few mods and go against anything out there.

 

Amen. If your a driver of fast cars past and present then, and only then will you know what this car can give you in HP per dollar. If you only take your car out of the garage once in a while or you drive your car with no HP modifications, then you are doing nothing more then going from point (a) to point (b) and enjoying the drive in the country.
That's fine, but some of us like to drive these cars like they want to be driven..with the foot down on the pedal and to the limit on those winding country roads. This car can handle that blind folded. Having owned many,many sports cars in the past 30 years the Limited holds up to the best of the bunch. Be nice if it had a 6 speed tranny though. I mean a good 6 speed tranny.

 

I find the results of your race completely plausible. A 2001 Trans Am weighs 3,500 pounds. The Crossfire 3,060. 440 pounds difference.

A Crossfire with 268 horsepower has a pound/horsepower ratio of 11.5.

A Trans Am with 310 horsepower has a pound/horsepower ration of 11.3.

The difference is neglible and so were the results of the race.

Remember, a Lotus Elise (2,000 lbs) with 190hp can beat a stock SRT-6 to 60mph.

 

Your absolutely right. Pound/horsepower ratios is an excellent way to show what is possible. Of course the rest is up to many variables like road conditions,driver,car,etc. Very good point.

 

The Trans am had CRAZY torque.......past that I think it was all close.

 

Actually that was the name of that driver.

 

Manually shifting your auto stick is for fun but it will likely make you slower since your not going to hit your shift points exactly when the automatic would and you will likely shift a few rpms below and a few rpms above meaning your not going to be consistant. A guy running a 6 speed will have a higher time but he wont run that time every time and the auto will always be within a tenth of a second. Test it out though if you feel your times can be better shifting on your own.

 

You guys,

i don't want to disprove anything. i just feel that this is too far out to be accurate. even with 265+HP and 265+TQ the LS1 trans ams were capable of cracking the 12 second 1/4 mark bone stock.

It could have been a LT1 series transams, those were also available with hood scoops. This was a possibilty.

I know with a bad driver they can be beaten, i had a buddy with a 94 LT1 Camaro Z28 who lost a few times to a Civic Hatch with a B16 Swap. not a whole lotta car to beat.

If you won, good. i just dont want everyone here to think they can run a vette or a LS1 Camaro, and win. because it generally won't happen.

Hell, when i had my Z28 i raced a Turbo RSX on the Hiwghway, and beat him to 140. IMO, that should never have happened.

Thanks,

Justin

 

In case you newbie guys are unaware if you pull the auto-shift lever all the way to the left to 1st gear and release the lever. It will auto-shift at RED LINE through all 4 low gears on it's own. No need to anticipate shift points !

Just my Dos Centavos

 

Actually your right except.. In addition to the HP mods I also have a sprint booster. If your familiar with how these operate (plenty of info on this forum if you do a search) it would have been better to use "drive". When I reached 60mph let up on the gas and slam it.
With a sprint booster and the TVT flash settings this seems to work better. Putting the car in auto shift and starting off in first then flooring it worked with the sprint booster only in first gear. After that the computer took over the shifting. I know Rob over at NeedWings keeps his on autostick in 1st. Then he floors it and lets the car shift. Of course this is at the track and he has a beefed up SRT6 without a sprint booster installed. Many of the forum members have their own opinions about what the sprint booster does and doesn't do. In any case I don't want to debate the sprint booster. It is what it is. I didn't have the control to do anything when floored. Just sit back and look over at the other car and hope for the best. Although there was plenty of power left to continue to 140mph plus. I seriously doubt that he could have hit 140 or 150 plus mph. He was a good car length behind me when I hit 120mph.

 

Well being as I used to be a Firebird/Trans Am guy before I got into 2.2 Turbo Dodges the Limpest 4 gen ram air was a 305 horse job back in 96-97. They were rated a low 5 second 0-60 probably a mid to low 14 second car (good six speed drivers being in the high 13's) depending on manual or auto (driver if it's a manual) given the weight difference it sounds like this is the TA you probably ran across and would be a close race down low and one that you'd win the longer it went on because of gearing if he didn't get you in the quarter. Still a pretty good feat to beat a car 90 horsepower your senior when both cars were stock regardless of mods after, shows your getting after it.

 

Good info. It was a 2001-2003 transam.

 

here's you answer...



actually it's a little more in-depth than that - IIRC the WS6 package is the handling package so different axle ratios and suspension set-up as well as the Ram-Air hood

 

That's the car. I remember the hood scoops. Especially the rear fin/spoiler.Also the red was a little different then other firebirds I have seen. Maybe a special edition color? Looks like the Limited with the extra HP with modifications and weight ratio can be a capable opponent. I would imagine now that he felt worst then me. I felt like I could have done better then nose to nose for awhile. Don't feel so bad now. Thanks for taking the time to find that photo.