Heres the deal people! I own the auto crossfire and my wife just bought the auto RX8. I havent drove the rx8 yet but what car do you think would come out on top racing wise? Read Below before responding:

Interesting info:

350Z 6spd 287hp @ 6200 RPM
274lbs torque @ 4800 RPM
0-60mph in 5.4 sec

RX8 6spd 238hp @ 8500 RPM
159lbs torque @ 5500 RPM
0-60mph in 5.9 sec

The above info is just to show you how much power these rotary engines can produce, I didnt think they were that fast. Atleast from their specs, its kinda close to the 350Z even tho the Z has a big difference in hp and torque.Now view the important stuff below:

Crossfire Auto 215hp @ 5700 RPM
229lbs torque @ 3000 RPM
0-60mph in ????

RX8 Auto 197hp @ 7200 RPM
164lbs torque @ 5000 RPM
0-60mph in ????

Ok now the difference in the 350Z and Manual RX8 was 49hp and 115lbs of torque. Theres only a 18hp and 65 lbs of torque difference between the auto Crossfire and auto RX8! Now everyone be real and tell me which car would come up on top???? I own a auto Crossfire and the way it looks, the auto RX8 would beat me??? Speak your Mind

 

Can't say but I think I would give the RX8 a run for its money.

I was thinking about these other two cars again last night. I still think the RX8 looks too much like the rest of the mazda family and having a 1.3 litre rotary engine still does not impress me. Your no better off having it over a normal engine. Which sounds better a 1.3 rotary or a 3.2 V6? Maybe I'll have to drive the RX8 before I start liking it but for me its got no REAL style. The 350Z is just a fast boy racers car.

SORRY IF NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE

 

Damn I messed up that poll, lol. Oh well, I'll test drive my wifes car before I really decide on anything. I like the way it looks!

 

Check in with WMichaels... he auto crosses his Alabaster auto-stick. If memory serves me correctly, he drove circles around the RX8.

One other thing... is that the HP Mazda finally decided was correct??? There was an issue with them mis-stating the true HP output of the car. So much in fact they offered their early customers a $500 gift certificate to make amends. Some were even able to sell their car back to Mazda because of it all. BTW: This is not the first time Mazda was caught up in something like this...

 

I dont know man I'll have to ask my wife!

 

the 0-60 times of 5.9s for the rx-8 stick were accomplished by an experienced driver letting out the clutch @7000 rpm. if you look at motor trends numbers, which are acquired a little differently, the rx-8 goes 0-60 in 6.5s. the manual crossfire was tested at 6.7s. not a big difference.

http://www.motortrend.com/oftheyear/...y/index13.html

note that the rx-8 auto wasn't tested. the crossfire autostick took 7.1s and is rated at the same hp as the crossfire 6 spd. take away 20% of the rx-8s hp, step on the automatic's accelerator at idle, and you will be approaching 8s. so if you are comparing 0-60 times for the 2004 models w/ automatic transmissions - there is little doubt in my mind the crossfire would win that battle.

 

Depends on the course. If you look at the various reviews and slalom/ course times the winner would vary from xfire to rx8 to boxster to s2000 to z4 to 350z.

 

But from what your stating Rob M, that means it depends on the driver! Your saying the times for the 350Z would be longer too right?

 

The numbers achieved and stated by the magazines are usually accomplished by professional drivers and mking the car launch (by popping the clutch.) THe problem lies when a regular driver tries to see how fast his/her car can go, they will generally not be able to do this and the times are much slower. The CF has such big wheels and tires, that it would be extremely ery difficult or maybe almost impossible to "launch." Which means that the 0-62 in 6.5 sec is easily achievable by almost any driver. This means that you can spank the auto RX8, and probable the manual RX8 also.
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The RX8 Auto will beat you. It has a much higher power to weight ratio than the Crossfire and a higher redline and better gearing.

 

Personally I figure the the RX8 won't do wel with an Auto tranny agains the CF. I mean you gotta keep the engine at around 8500 RPM in order get the power up there. Quite hard to do with an Auto Tranny.

Wait.. then again they have tiptronic right? Hmm...

 

Take them both to the 1/4 mile strip and put down a few runs in each. Give us the results. That way we can see 60" time, trap speeds, etc.

 

Nevermind, the Auto RX-8 is slow.

 

I could be wrong, but I beliveve the Crossfire has a higher rated HP than the auto RX8, and the RX 8 is heavier as well.

 

The auto RX8 only has 197 hp. That's all that needs to be said.

Besides... someone here said that he thought it looks like a frog. Now every time I see one I think of that a crack up. So, if your driving a RX8 and you see someone laughing in an alabater Crossfire it's me. :lol: :lol:

Our local Mazda dealers have those things lined up 2 rows deep on their lots. It reminds me of VW dealer lots in the 60s and 70s with the bugs.

 

Ok guys lets be nice here. No need to bash the car. Personally, I prefer the older turbo models of the RX7. The current styling just doesn't do it for me. I'm sure we can expect to see a turbo model in a few years. That is if they expect to move the cars off of the lot. However, much like our expected SRT6, the price will go up.

The auto transmission would outshift the RX7, no problem. Just do a little brake torquing off the line for the launch. Make sure traction control is turned off. Don't do this too hard or you'll roast the rear tires! $$$

Finally, the only real way to tell is to get these cars on the track. Real world results, not some professional who spent all day and night at a track to squeeze out that extra tenth of a second in the 1/4.

Reminds me of everyone who said the s2000 is good for a 13.8 second run in the 1/4. Ever time my friend took his to the track, 14.5's give or take.

 

I think there would be very slight variations in times with different skilled drivers but I think there could be larger variations based on the test methodologies used. For example, if one publication uses torque braking in an auto, and another does not, the times would be considerably different. Then there's weather influences, track conditions, etc., so I suppose it isn't really a good idea to draw conclusions.

Since you have both cars, you may have to conduct your own experiment.

 

I've personally seen a few 350z's click off mid 13's at the track. Most were modified, but thats what I saw in person.

 

I've seen several on the road. Good looking car, but like the X-fire better. Performance? don't know how they stack up.

 

mathematically, it would have to be the crossfire, more HP and torque and I would assume it is lighter then the RX8. But sometimes what's on paper does not transfer to real world.