that's a good attitude! When I want to beat everything I come across...I jump on my GSX-R.

 

Well you got to remember that there is always someone who is faster than you. I have not always had that kind of attitude but I have more or less come to respect my car more for what it is. If you say your car is faster than mine I will most likely believe you. No sense on drag racing on public streets and endangering other peoples lives. If I'm on a drag strip and your car can beat me and I know it, I will still race you for the fun of it..... it won't hurt my feelings cause you beat me.

 

"We used to do this sort o braggin' face to face over our open hoods.
Then we would slam them down and go prove or lose."

Boy did this statement bring back memories! I can remember have'n to stop at the gas station on way out of town to our marked quarter to buy a quarters worth of gas to race on. Loser paid the winner a quarter at the end. Talk about put'n your money where your mouth is!

 

I am not upset, or saying my car is faster than anyone else's, I am simply tired of people who have invested zero time or money into unlocking the car's potential lecturing us about what it can do because they have been to the track a few times in a stock car.

 

I understand what you are saying. You invested considerable amounts of money in your car and your annoyed at the possible fact that someone might of had a good run on the track. I'm not saying your wrong but I'm not saying your right. I think anything is possible. MuscleFan is a good example of that. I remember seeing his post on his times and I was quite impressed.

 

And you think you know about cars and racing? ROFL. I have raced many cars and broken multiple records. and you? I would love to see what you have accomplished. Dont give me that I enjoy road racing, etc. If you enjoy road racing and not intending to drag race, then STFU and dont make any comments on drag racing since you obviously lack of knowledge when it comes to it. Yes you sure can squeeze a 20hp on an 8 cylinder car easier than a crossfire. But I dont think i have mentioned anything about making more pwer is easy with the crossfire. I think you need to re-read my post, or are you having trouble reading? Damn public schools. I am pretty sure I have said that it is a lot easier to cut down some tenths from a 14 second car. and it is the case.

200 to the wheels would be around 230-235hp at the crank. Are you telling me that a highly modified crossfire only gains about 15 - 20hp at the crank and that is it? I am pretty sure I can dig through my PMs and find a PM which a member told me he made around 275 at the crank with his modified crossfire. If I am not mistaking, he had cams as well.

Just because I havent modified a crossfire doesnt mean I dont know anything about them. I know physics and I KNOW drag racing. The way the car performed stock, should hit 13s modified N/A. Period.
You can't drive your car, and you take the credit off from the car. The car can perform, but can you? It appears not since you are all defensive on my comment that a modified N/A crossfire should see 13s.

Again, this is a bench talk and it will always be. If you want, I can drive your modified crossfire, run a 13 sec and throw you back the keys. Just let me know.

I think you are trying to feel better about your driving abilities by defending a modified ccrossfire is a 14 second car since you couldnt get her into 13s.


ttyl

 

Defensive much?

I did not say a single personal thing about you, kept it all about the cars, but saying I can't drive my car, don't know anything about cars and telling me to STFU when I posted something questioning what you say can be done, but never have and never will is a little harsh. And do not get your upbringing confused with mine, I attended private religious schools for 12 years before attending a top ranked university to learn about physics, electronics, computing, and engineering. You said you knew plenty about physics, which program did you graduate from?

You don't even own a crossfire and continually tell people how awesome you can make one, but don't have the money, then it is you I tell to STFU. I am here, have a nice car and DO NOT talk **** about what time it COULD run because I choose not to race it down a straight line for 1/4 mile. I am not saying I have a 13 second car, because I don't, what I am saying is that you should do a little homework before talking like that to someone who has been around this stuff for a while.

Since you know so much more than me, I would like you to show me some CAMs for an NA please. LMFAO

If I remember correctly you had no idea what a CDV was before I educated you about them.

I am done arguing with someone who obviously knows EVERYTHING about everything and has the record to prive it. Once you get yourself a crossfire and get it to 275HP let me know, until then, I am done being insulted by someone who obviously has no class and feels a need for personal attacks.

 

No you obviously don't understand what I am saying Cody, I do not race my car 1/4 mile and no desire to do so. I have no idea what it will run, but I have invested money into making it faster and do know what other friends have gotten out of their XFs. I am glad he had a great stock run and am happy for the guy, I honestly have no idea what my car would run, but I doubt if much faster than stock at the moment, but power shifting through those gears and dropping the clutch at 4K just to get a little gain is abuse on the car I am not willing to inflict.

My point is that it is easy to say what could happen, but unless you put your money where your mouth is, I have no desire to hear it.

 

This whole thing is getting blown out of proportion. Do you guys even realize you two were talking it up at the last G2G? I bet you guys don't even realize who you are talking to.

 

I realized who it was, hence the offense at the personal attacks, this is a place for cars.

 

I never claimed to know more about crossfires than you or anybody else here. However, It appears I do know more about how the car itself perform and capable of what.

by the way, i AT LEAST ran the car at track before to see what she ahs to offer and taking that, guess what she could potentially offer.
How about you? what have you run in your modified crossfire to come over here and reverse my claim? Oh wait, you have never even run your car at a 1/4 mile and you say that they arent a 13 second car N/A? That is just comical ! LOL!

Since you have never run the car at a 1/4 mile before, your argument on the car's straight line performance is invalid.


Cody, it is true, we were talking at a meeting, and for some reason John just decided to jump on me out of the blue in thread due to a claim I have made, instead of kindly expressing his opinion. I am a respectable, nice person and people around me know that. However, I also dont take any kind of crap from anyone. Be nice to me, and I will be nice to you back.

P.S. This is not the only car I have claimed something and were given crap or laughed at.

06 GT stock 13.4@103mph when everyone was running 13.8 to 14.2s and I was told that low 13s werent possible.

99 stock trans am 12.98@106mph, when everyone was running 13.3s to 13.8-9s. When I mentioned that i could squeeze a 12 sec. out of it, i was laughed at.

03 stock cobra 12.70@113mph short shifted to second at 3500rpm due to tire spin. When everyone was running low 12.9s to 13.2-3s. When I claimed a mid 12 second, I was laughed at and were given crap.

03 pullied cobra 11.34@121.9mph. When everyone was running 11.9s to 12.2s. When I claimed that pullied cobra should run low 11s. I was given the worlds biggest crap, and the very next day, I posted this video:

YouTube - 2003 cobra

07 stock mustang GT with 3.31 gears. 13.45@102mph. I said I could run 13.4s with this one as well like I did with the 06, and surprisingly the same crowd who use dto give me crap on my "unrealistic" claims, did not give me any crap and They were glad they didn't because I backed up my claim once again.

and I say, with nothing but intake, catback and tune, I will run 12s with. I have been given crap by a few so far, and we will see when tracks open.

I am not talking out of my *** here. I am talking because I have ran the crossfire and saw how she performed stock. It is not a rocket science. The car trapped 97mph stock. with mods it should do 99-100mph which equals to a pretty much 13 second run.

 

I think you both are respectable people and I do think you should both stop arguing over something that isn't that big of a deal. Like Boiler said "this is a place for cars". No need to get personal. We can debate our cars in a more manner able way. I'm not going to say who started what cause that will just bring in a whole other argument. I know you both respect each other just being Crossfire owners. We are a big family here and you guys should think of this as a big brother, little brother fight......you guys might be angry as heck right now but deep down you guys still like each other.

 

This thread should have gone something like this...

Guy 1 - "I just ran a 14.2 - 1/4 mile in a NA XF. I think with some slicks I could get into the 13's."

Guy 2 - "I think you'd be surprised that the slicks won't give you what you think they will".

Guy 1 - "Oh, well if I ever get a set of slicks I'll give it a try and see and I'll post the slip".


But the way it went down was worth the two bags of popcorn I had reading it!

 

exactly......

 

Did I forget to tell people here how I was outrunning a cop doing 200 MPH on the highway. All of a sudden a burst of fire came out my tailpipe and I took off into the air like a rocket ship. I landed in the next state and took me 2 days to drive back home. SORRY I DON'T HAVE THE TICKET TO PROVE ALL OF THIS HAPPENED BECAUSE I OUTRAN THE COP!

Here is my point....

PROVE IT UP and show me a slip! Otherwise it didn't happen.

Muscle and Boiler... ease up there!

 

Oh and here it is the PM I was talking about.

This Xfire owner was making 285hp at the crank N/A. now tell me a 285hp, 3000lbs car isnt a 13 second ride.

Here are the screen shots of our PMs.

 

I have read the last ten or so posts and had to check....I thought this p!ssin' on a flat rock crap only happened in the politics section.

You guys are easily as mean and nasty.


I still say, post time slips or it didn't happen. The rest is just puffin'

BTW a simple weight to Horsepower doesn't equate to laptime. Our cars launch terribly. It's apparently all in the wrist?

 

So now you are posting another forum members private message to you just to prove up a point. Makes you think twice before sending you a PM! You may plaster it all over the net.

 

umm.. there was no calssified conversation going on in those PMs. So, I dont know why are you all hurt over it. But just don't send me a PM to be safe.

 

This is all a part of growing up. Eventually you boys will become men.