Took delivery of my Xfire Thursday night
Thursday night I leased #20277 which is a 2004 Alabaster/Cedar coupe. The color combination is absolutely gorgeous. The dealer had this one on the showroom floor for months and luckily they still had it when I finally decided to buy.
I absolutley love this car. I'm amazed at all the looks and comments I've gotten from people in the few days I've owned it.
This is the first new car I've bought locally. I've always gone to LA or the coast, since here they like to hassle you and charge over sticker. It was an extremely easy and positive experience; in less than 3 hours after the initial phone call, I was driving away.
Of course that experience didn't last... today when I was out taking my car for a walk, the dealership calls to say I need to resign my lease because they made a mistake. They want to charge me 20 cents per mile over the limit instead of the 15 cents on the contract I have.
The Crossfire continues to amaze me. Everything from the subtle design cues to how well it drives. The only thing I am disappointed about, is all the somewhat harsh reviews the car got. I love the interior and I happen to think it has plenty of power. Had it not been for the negative vibes, I might have joined the Crossfire club sooner!
Steve
I absolutley love this car. I'm amazed at all the looks and comments I've gotten from people in the few days I've owned it.
This is the first new car I've bought locally. I've always gone to LA or the coast, since here they like to hassle you and charge over sticker. It was an extremely easy and positive experience; in less than 3 hours after the initial phone call, I was driving away.
Of course that experience didn't last... today when I was out taking my car for a walk, the dealership calls to say I need to resign my lease because they made a mistake. They want to charge me 20 cents per mile over the limit instead of the 15 cents on the contract I have.
The Crossfire continues to amaze me. Everything from the subtle design cues to how well it drives. The only thing I am disappointed about, is all the somewhat harsh reviews the car got. I love the interior and I happen to think it has plenty of power. Had it not been for the negative vibes, I might have joined the Crossfire club sooner!
Steve
Don't re-sign anything... some dealers have been known to do this type of thing. This ploy has even been reported on various consumer programs. You signed papers and that's it.
Conrats on your car... you'll enjoy it!!!
Conrats on your car... you'll enjoy it!!!
you do not have to resign. Once dealer signs contract it is a done deal. He is stuck with it. He is supposed to be knowledgeable enough to not make a mistake. You have three days to get out of a contract providing you do not take the car. Do not resign. Tell him you like the deal and will keep it as is.
A deal is done when you signed all the papers .....................Don't resign.Did u get 15000 ayear $299 monthly 39mos.. if not re negotiate!Thats' what the dealer has here in ventura!
Originally Posted by dirtboy
I got $299/mo 39 mo 39,000 miles.
I will start ignoring their calls or maybe I will tell them I will resign if they up my mileage!
I will start ignoring their calls or maybe I will tell them I will resign if they up my mileage!
I don't know about CA, but here in MI, you also signed a piece of paper that says you give the dealer the right to correct any errors made. This would include the need to re-sign the lease paper. If that is the case, you will have to re-sign. Anyways, the lease contract is with the leasing company (chrysler financial), not with your dealer...You would have to prove in court that you only would have entered into the lease if the overage was 15cents a mile. I think that would be hard for you to 'prove', since the $299 is probably what you convinced you todo the lease (along with the beautiful car). BTW, don't worry about the reviews...If you listened to all the critics...you would be driving a Honda Civic Hybrid and never go see a movie.
Originally Posted by dirtboy
Of course that experience didn't last... today when I was out taking my car for a walk, the dealership calls to say I need to resign my lease because they made a mistake. They want to charge me 20 cents per mile over the limit instead of the 15 cents on the contract I have.
This reminds me of when I bought my '93 Eagle Vision. A couple of months later I get a bill from the dealer for another $100 or so for the registration. I looked over my purchase agreement looking for language indicating I was obligated to pay anything after the deal, couldn't find it so I called them asking me to point me in that direction. The lady on the phone just got all huffy and essentially said "Well if you don't want to pay, don't!!". I said "It isn't that I don't want to pay, I just want you to tell me where I agreed to pay and then I'll pay, I just don't see it." She just got all huffy again and I didn't pay. Screw them.
Originally Posted by krusty_the_klown
I would politely invite your dealer to pound some serious sand. I think the only thing you need to worry about is whether the dealer made a "mistake", as mistake is not a defense under the law (attorneys correct me on this if I am wrong).
He even pointed out that in California, all sales are final and that I could not return the car. It's printed on the lease agreement.
Furthermore, the lease agreement says that if there is a dispute between the two parties, then the contract must go through arbitration.
I don't know who is right or wrong in this situation, nor do I think it really matters. I signed a contract and if I got screwed, then it is my fault. If they got screwed, then they should fire the people who are causing them to lose money. Nowhere in contract law does it say you can cancel a contract because you agreed to a bad deal.
Originally Posted by dirtboy
Originally Posted by krusty_the_klown
I would politely invite your dealer to pound some serious sand. I think the only thing you need to worry about is whether the dealer made a "mistake", as mistake is not a defense under the law (attorneys correct me on this if I am wrong).
well, there are provisions in most state contracting laws that prevent someone from taking advantage of someone elses honest mistake. sometimes the word "unconscionable" is used. like if the deal was supposed to be $30,000.00 but somehow got written as $3.00. i doubt a court would let the dealer void this one tho.
best for you to tell the dealer to put it in writing and you'll respond in writing. probably, they'll just pass.
dan
Originally Posted by houstondan
well, there are provisions in most state contracting laws that prevent someone from taking advantage of someone elses honest mistake. sometimes the word "unconscionable" is used. like if the deal was supposed to be $30,000.00 but somehow got written as $3.00. i doubt a court would let the dealer void this one tho.
best for you to tell the dealer to put it in writing and you'll respond in writing. probably, they'll just pass.
dan
best for you to tell the dealer to put it in writing and you'll respond in writing. probably, they'll just pass.
dan
Now on this deal, I don't how they would prove mistake. I'll be interested to see how it develops. However, I gotta believe if he relied on the info in the deal to agree to the deal, he could rescind it if the dealer prevails. It's crazy to think that someone can get a court to change the terms of a deal that I agreed to and not let me walk from it.
I've been expecting another call from them, but nothing yet. They seemed overly eager to get me in. According to the contract that I have, the only way it can be cancelled is if both parties agree.
They won't take the car back, especially since my trade in is long gone!
I imagine nothing will come of it.
They won't take the car back, especially since my trade in is long gone!
I imagine nothing will come of it.
A friend of mine bought an Accord several months ago and the dealer called her a few days later and said her credit wasn't good enough for the interest rate they gave her. They tried to get her to come in and sign a new finance contract at a higher rate. She refused and nothing else was ever said about it.
Originally Posted by lordpercy
congrats on the new motor, a contract is a contract simple.....enjoy your car and use another dealer!
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6/2/04 10am Update:
I just got a call from the same gal who called me two days ago. She asked me to come in again and I told her I am happy with my contract and I am not resigning, unless they are willing to concede something to me.
She then told me that they can't sell this contract to Chrysler Financial, so it is null and void.
I then explained to her that there is "no cooling off period" and that "all sales are final" in the state of California. I told her if she had a problem with this, she should speak to the finance writer. I told her that he went over the contract and I didn't negotiate any of the terms. I signed it in good faith and he agreed to it in good faith.
She said she'd have to talk to a manager and that she would call me back. I really hope a manager calls, because I'd like to talk to them.
I just got a call from the same gal who called me two days ago. She asked me to come in again and I told her I am happy with my contract and I am not resigning, unless they are willing to concede something to me.
She then told me that they can't sell this contract to Chrysler Financial, so it is null and void.
I then explained to her that there is "no cooling off period" and that "all sales are final" in the state of California. I told her if she had a problem with this, she should speak to the finance writer. I told her that he went over the contract and I didn't negotiate any of the terms. I signed it in good faith and he agreed to it in good faith.
She said she'd have to talk to a manager and that she would call me back. I really hope a manager calls, because I'd like to talk to them.
Originally Posted by lordpercy
congrats on the new motor, a contract is a contract simple.....enjoy your car and use another dealer!


