Worth Repeating!!!

 

I'm just stating what I know is factual. Simple as that.

 

Okay Vegas, I'll take the bat this time but I just wanted to ask a few questions of our newest "GUEST" to our house...

¥ Why do these people come here and just start out bashing things?

¥ Why don't they ever post something about themself in the profile section?

¥ And why don't they invite us to their house to play?

Okay... I'm ready!!!

 

Good questions AZ - but you asked for it!!!
But to answer your questions - because they are TROLLS and they are RUDE :!:

 

OUCH!!! I know, but it was worth it..... :wink:

 

It's funny. Everyone bashes the XF story vs the 350z the 30k car that runs with a mustang gt which 10k less. What else is funny noone second guesses my destroying of the 350z track with my mach 1. At least you 350z owners know you dont stand a chance against that. When i 1st saw the 350z i loved it. That feeling was crushed when I first drove one. I was like thatsall the power it has? Thats no better than my mustang gt. I feel the same way about the 350z as i do the XF. They are both 50 hp shortof stardom.

 

A Mach1 and a 350Z aren't realistic for a comparitive, unless you only drive straight lines, I don't. Look around, see the reports, and the performance of the two cars, and its not the same. The Z wasn't ever intended to be a straight line car, although you can drive it like that, just like the Crossfire, its for turns, but it has adequate straight line power.

The Mach 1 is an American muscle car, I have driven it before, hard, its a monster straight line car from the factory. But thats about it. The shifter feels vauge, the steering, well, different, the brakes, well, different, its just not my cup of tea.

And about your statement about being 50HP short of stardom, is that what you say to yourself when talking about having a Stang' and not having an F-body? (kidding)

 

I haven't trolled, and have no intention of doing so, nor have I done a thing thats disparaging here.

 

You were not the one I was referring to! :wink:

 

Gotcha I like reading about other cars, and knowing whats going on with them thats why I am posting here.

 

But at least you admit the Mach 1 rapes 350z's. And the mach 1 was the best hanlding solid rear axle car i ever had. And as far as i wish it was an f-body ha! I've beaten lightly modded ws-6s against my mach 1 with a kandn and snorkel removed. Check my album i've owned quite a few cars. A couple f-bodies to boot. The only stock f-body that would pull on my mach one would be a Firehawk such as i had or a equally equipped SS. And my 03 cobra was untouchable. Speaking of 03 cobras and up why would you buy a Z over a Cobra? You can pick up a cobra for what you can a z. And dont say handling because they are close. Well closer in handling then the 350z stands a chance in a straight away against a cobra :lol:

 

What my fellow Z enthusiast said, these cars are designed for different things and it isn't a fair comparison because of the Mach 1's more powerful output. The Z in my opinion is a car capable of doing very well at different factors of racing with the capacity to do even better when modified. The GT for instance is more than one whole liter larger than the Z and possesses two more pistons. There should be no wonder why the Z cost 10k because despite it lesser-sized engine it is fully capable of whoopin on most Mustangs (again, Grand Am Cup Series Points speak for themselves last time I check for manufacturers standings) I don't know the exact specs of the Mach 1 but im pretty sure if you put one up against a Z on a road course with some twisties, the Z will give you a run for your money. Mustang owners, as well as most American muscle car enthusiasts stritcly base value on power-to-dollar ratio which in this day in age is absolete. If it wasn't, numerous automotive critic magazines and t.v. shows wouldn't have raved about the Z's great value.

 

Blur, just wondering... did they ever get that chassis/tire problem fixed??? Heard you guys were going through tires pretty quick???

 

Trolls? Why? Because we post the truth to clear out the BS? Im sorry, but there's no way a Crossfire is even close to a Z in terms of performance. Think about it... 287HP vs what? A measly 210HP? Both cars weigh nearly the same. It's pretty much common sense as to which one is faster.

As for the looks argument, Z wins once again hands down. My sister saw a crossfire on the road the other day (maroon type color) and made a comment on how ugly it looked. I tried to convince her that it looks decent, but she disagreed.

Do you actually think the Z doesn't get looks? My friend gets nothing but compliments and "nice car!" remarks from girls just walking down the street... it's insane. I'm sure you guys get compliments, too. But you need to realize that your cars are not the only ones that get compliments.

As for the Mach1 guy, yes the Mach 1 is a more strip capable car. Best handling solid rear axle? The Z will wipe the floor with the Mach1 on a road course, sorry. LS1 F-Bodies, stock vs. stock, like it or not, are faster than Mach 1s. You probably ran into some bad drivers. There's stock F-Bodies that trap 109-110 in the 1/4 mile. Best trap speed for a Mach 1 I've ever heard of was a 106.

And why not choose a Cobra over a Z? Maybe it's because of the horrid build quality. Maybe it's because there's millions of mustangs on the roads already. Maybe they actually want something that can handle. There's reasons like that and many more. Why not choose a Cobra over your Mach 1?

 

Yes sir, they did.

As far as I know, it was just the tire problem. Someone on my home forum suggested a chassis flex thing, but none of us has experienced this. It would be odd considering the Z's chassis and entire fram is shared with other vehicles in the Nissan Corporation including hulky SUV's! I have an '04 and all of the problems have been fixed, my car is flawless (with out patting my self or my car on its back lol). The only thing I need to change as far as my tires are concerned are the rears from showing off lol. Other than that, nuthin wrong.

 

Really, what are they, mid 13 cars out of the box?
Heh funny, well, I don't know if you are familiar with SCC, but they took a 350Z, left the stock suspension on it, but swapped the front and rear swaybars, added bigger rims and tires, (street tires) and the car pulled 1G on the skidpad. They have never been able to do that on a car with that few of mods. I know, for a fact a swap like that on a 03 Cobra can't match it. I know that the stock track Z outslaloms, outbrakes, and simply outhandles a stock Cobra, I know that for a fact. Shoot, go to an SCCA event an compare an 03 Cobra to a Z, well, not really all that close. Again, they are different cars, no bones about it. I just don't car for American ergonomics, or rather lack thereof. and you know what I am talking about when I speak of the shifter placement on a 'Stang.


But I digress, its an exercise in futility to continue, 'cause we all know of something faster than what we have now.
Refer to my previous statement.

 

I really think its a hit or miss thing, shoot, I have over 13k on the odometer on my car (2003) and, knocking on wood, not a single tire issue with mine on these horrible (140 treadwear rating) Bridgestone RE40's.

 

*Hugs XFireKilla*

Very well said XFire. I was gonna say the same thing as far as clearing out the b.s. It is only human nature to get defensive when an outsider comes and has non-positive things to bring to the table. I just really despise it when people make such blatant extravagancies. However, as you may have noticed, I didn't delve too deep as far as the Z vs. Mach1 comparison because of my little knowledge on that Mustang. However, we all know that an 4-way independent suspension does mean the world when it comes to handling and will always be superior to any sort of solid axle (which is another reason why Mustangs are so capable in the drag) As far as getting a Cobra or any Mustang for a Z, a guy once asked me that in person. Pretty much all the things XFire said I said to him but in a very polite manner. Mustangs are just a dime a dozen or even more, and yes, I highly value handling and MUCH better build quality. I also have a Sentra I have been working on. It still has its stock motor and I used to race it alot! 160,000+ miles on it and still runs strong. What can I say, I love Nissan.

 

Sam,

I was JUST wondering about this. Did they happen to use Cusco sway bars. I'm very happy with mine but if I can get the oens that could get me to 1 whole G lateral that would be great when I go to Buttonwillow. Perhaps they weer Hotchkis, 350EVO, Tanabe, JIC? Also, what rims and tire size did they use. I plan on going with some Volk 19's in the future.

 

Yup, it was Hotchkis swaybars, rims, BBS mesh 19x9 Front AND rear, I don't remember the particular street tire though, let me see if I can find the article.