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Old Jun 4, 2018 | 03:55 PM
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I have a 2004 coupe just did wires and plugs Bc the car had a mis and was throwing multiple misfire codes, The misfire codes are gone but now it’s back firing thru the mass airflow I can here what sounds like a pop that’s happening here and there. Also the car is running rough and trying to stall out the rpms are under 500 rpms. Can’t figure this out help. I did new wires new plugs, replace fuel filter, some vacuum hoses, new mass air flow. And also the exhaust is getting really hot fast I’m thinking maybe clogged cats?
 
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Old Jun 4, 2018 | 06:18 PM
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Maybe you got a couple of plug wires backwards?. Loose vacuum line? Did you change the MAF sensor or clean it? You shouldn't be under 500 RPMs at any time. Idle , in gear , should be between 600 to 750.
 

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Old Jun 5, 2018 | 06:36 AM
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Steve thanks for the reply. None of the wires are crossed, believe me that’s the first thing I checked. The MAF is brand new, I wanted to eliminate that right away so I replaced it. The vacuum lines are all secured and on. The car has 120k on it I’m wondering if the cats are clogged because it kinda seems like a exhaust backfire, and it’s only happening when the rpms drop really low, why I think that is because the exhaust is getting hot fast which doesn’t seem right to me. I was trying to find a post about anyone having a misfire with bad cats but couldn’t. So as of right now I have a misfire, no codes, rough idle to the point it stalls out or try’s too, I don’t know if that backfiring is happening because the car wants to stall or what, but I am gonna try to run a scan to see what all the sensors are telling me.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2018 | 08:11 AM
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Did you remove the the MAF housing when you changed the sensor? Have you pulled your RCM an looked for pitting on the relays contact surfaces? Let us know , what you get out of the scan.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2018 | 11:31 AM
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I replaced the housing not just the sensor, if that’s the housing ur talking about? The pcm I pulled when I first got the car which was in December and redid the solder just in case Bc when I bought the car the skreem module was bad and didn’t know what it was at first. I got a good deal on the car Bc of the skreem and the prior owner didn’t know what was wrong with it. It was a dream car for my mom so I purchased it for her to repay her for all the years of hell I put her thru .
 
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Old Jun 6, 2018 | 05:19 PM
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Thank you for helping Steve figured it out!! Wait until you here this.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2018 | 06:36 PM
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Sounds like a plug wire (or two) on the rong plug(s). I'd check that first.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2018 | 07:05 PM
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Thanks for your help but figured it out today as I started digging into it further. Lets just say if ur not mechanic don’t try to fix car related issues. So I did a soap and water test the other day to see for vacuum leaks and replace hoses and I noticed some silicone which I thought was silicone and heard a bad intake leak, so I replaced the map sensor today and started moving somethings to realize that so called silicone was actually jb weld and there a huge hole patched on the intake manifold actually cracks all over the intake manifold. The mis I thought I had was actually a real bad intake leak causing to much air to be sucked and causing a mis and bad fire. Someone did great mechanic work!!! Off to find a intake. Will post pictures of the intake when I pull it out.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2018 | 07:54 AM
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JB Weld can fix anything short of a failing marriage, and might even work there if properly applied.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2018 | 10:20 AM
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Glad you found the source. If you cant find it locally or on fleabay , let us know. We'll give you some suggestions on where to locate one...
On a second thought , look at the hole to see if it was, tapped at some point. Maybe you could rethread an plug the hole. Got any pics?
Or like George said , applied properly, JBWeld is some good stuff.
 

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Old Jun 7, 2018 | 12:47 PM
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Will post pics when I pull it out the hole is 4in x 4in hole, patching isn’t gonna help. I found one for 175.00 used just have to have it shipped.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2018 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff C
Will post pics when I pull it out the hole is 4in x 4in hole, patching isn’t gonna help. I found one for 175.00 used just have to have it shipped.
Holy Moly , I was thinking 3/8" hole...
 
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Old Jun 7, 2018 | 01:08 PM
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You would need some of that stuff that makes a screen door work as a boat bottom.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2018 | 01:14 PM
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Flex seal lol
 
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Old Jun 7, 2018 | 02:12 PM
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Always consider asking Rob At Needswings- he has the inside on many parts and suppliers, and has helped many others. Woody
 
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Old Jun 14, 2018 | 08:02 PM
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Here is the notorious jb weld intake manifold thanks again guys for your in put and help, I have to rebuild the injectors and then I will let you guys know how it runs.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2018 | 08:14 PM
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JBWeld is not THAT good....
 
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Old Jun 14, 2018 | 08:38 PM
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I know lol as you can tell.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2018 | 02:16 PM
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Another genius at work, LOL
 
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Old Jun 15, 2018 | 06:56 PM
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Steve it’s all back together runs better then ever. Someone’s gonna be a happy camper just in time for summer.
 
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