XF Roadster - soft top fabric problem caused by constructional fault
XF Roadster - soft top fabric problem caused by constructional fault
I decided to cancel my account in the german Crossfire forum.
The user Hardy_black initiated this topic on ther german Crossfire forum and asked me to open this thread in this forum.
Now it's time give to turn over to Hardy_black
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http://www.chrysler-forum.com/thread,threadid-44840_Verdeck.html
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The user Hardy_black initiated this topic on ther german Crossfire forum and asked me to open this thread in this forum.
Now it's time give to turn over to Hardy_black
Here you'll find this topic in the german Crossfire forum:
http://www.chrysler-forum.com/thread,threadid-44840_Verdeck.html
Best regards
Markus
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Re: XF Roadster - soft top fabric problem caused by constructional fault
have there been any reports of any rips, tears, or leaks due to this cosmetic problem? if not, this is something that is just part of the top folding in on itself. imho it is not something to be concerned about; until the top's fabric fails. my top has the same crease, to me its not a big deal. the marks are on both sides of the top too from folding in on itself and no one seems to have a problem with that being the case.
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Re: XF Roadster - soft top fabric problem caused by constructional fault
List of cars outside germany:
1. bmorgan - 05 SRT Roadster
2. DKAwildcat - 08 Roadster
3. Pizzaguy - 05 Roadster Limited
I can say that I am not too concerned - but my car sits in the garage almost ALL of the time with the top up/closed, so "damage" caused by having it in the storage area will take a LONG time to manifest itself.
I will be VERY interested to see if you get ANY cooperation out of Chrysler. I am not a BIG fan of their products, but then again, I am not a big critic of them, either.
1. bmorgan - 05 SRT Roadster
2. DKAwildcat - 08 Roadster
3. Pizzaguy - 05 Roadster Limited
I can say that I am not too concerned - but my car sits in the garage almost ALL of the time with the top up/closed, so "damage" caused by having it in the storage area will take a LONG time to manifest itself.
I will be VERY interested to see if you get ANY cooperation out of Chrysler. I am not a BIG fan of their products, but then again, I am not a big critic of them, either.
Re: XF Roadster - soft top fabric problem caused by constructional fault
You can add mickey5469 to the list 05 Ltd with 70,000 miles noticed problem about 2 years ago
went underneath the crease and with about a 3"long black duc tape, crisscrossed about 6 times i.e. vertical l then crossways + then multiple times * ending up with a 3" diameter circle of tape
about 6 layers thick which was strong enough to cause the fold outside the
original crease
cannot notice at all on the outside and after a while don't notice
from the inside
can't distinguish any further wear on the original crease did not used any glue only the original adhesive held it in place have replaced it twice
in three years but only takes about one minute
went underneath the crease and with about a 3"long black duc tape, crisscrossed about 6 times i.e. vertical l then crossways + then multiple times * ending up with a 3" diameter circle of tape
about 6 layers thick which was strong enough to cause the fold outside the
original crease
cannot notice at all on the outside and after a while don't notice
from the inside
can't distinguish any further wear on the original crease did not used any glue only the original adhesive held it in place have replaced it twice
in three years but only takes about one minute
Re: XF Roadster - soft top fabric problem caused by constructional fault
This is not my car, but today I went to a local Chrysler Dealer in Toronto who has a 2008 SSB/Nav LTD for sale with 37,000 kms. I wanted to put the top up to see how easily it operated like and what it looked like (material/condition etceteras). That vehicle has the EXACT same crease in the EXACT same spot that is pictured in this thread! Where the spot is, the material does feels physically weak and vulnerable to an easy tear. Other than needing tires, probably brake pads, it is perfect. Albeit, some lucky owner is going to purchase the car and want their name added to the list.
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Re: XF Roadster - soft top fabric problem caused by constructional fault
First thanks to all for answers and comments.
Please feel free to add yourself to the list if your Roadster is also affected.
At the moment we have 22 Roadster owners reporting the problem in germany.
Until now we don't have a soft top that was teared, or had a leakeage.
But in some cases the fabric is really really weak.
So it seems that it's only a matter of time until you'll some get a real problem.
Normally a soft top should last for more than 10 years without any special care.
Some of our Roadster users also use a gaffa-tape (very strong duct tape) to keep the top from wrinkling. But that's only a temporary solution, because the duct tape loosens after a while, especially when you have wet and moisty weather. Not every car is garaged. Some are daily drivers - even in winter time.
Thanks and regards from germany
Markus
List of cars outside germany:
1. bmorgan - 05 SRT Roadster
2. DKAwildcat - 08 Roadster
3. Pizzaguy - 05 Roadster Ltd.
4. mickey5469 - 05 Roadster Ltd., 70k miles
5. Franc Rauscher
6. IBLUBYU - 05 SRT Roadster, 22k miles
7. autumnmass - 07 Roadster, 12k miles
8. tri_zombie - 05 SRT Roadster
Please feel free to add yourself to the list if your Roadster is also affected.
At the moment we have 22 Roadster owners reporting the problem in germany.
Until now we don't have a soft top that was teared, or had a leakeage.
But in some cases the fabric is really really weak.
So it seems that it's only a matter of time until you'll some get a real problem.
Normally a soft top should last for more than 10 years without any special care.
Some of our Roadster users also use a gaffa-tape (very strong duct tape) to keep the top from wrinkling. But that's only a temporary solution, because the duct tape loosens after a while, especially when you have wet and moisty weather. Not every car is garaged. Some are daily drivers - even in winter time.
Thanks and regards from germany
Markus
List of cars outside germany:
1. bmorgan - 05 SRT Roadster
2. DKAwildcat - 08 Roadster
3. Pizzaguy - 05 Roadster Ltd.
4. mickey5469 - 05 Roadster Ltd., 70k miles
5. Franc Rauscher
6. IBLUBYU - 05 SRT Roadster, 22k miles
7. autumnmass - 07 Roadster, 12k miles
8. tri_zombie - 05 SRT Roadster
Re: XF Roadster - soft top fabric problem caused by constructional fault
Originally Posted by bigblock427
First thanks to all for answers and comments.
Please feel free to add yourself to the list if your Roadster is also affected.
At the moment we have 22 Roadster owners reporting the problem in germany.
Until now we don't have a soft top that was teared, or had a leakeage.
But in some cases the fabric is really really weak.
So it seems that it's only a matter of time until you'll some get a real problem.
Normally a soft top should last for more than 10 years without any special care.
Some of our Roadster users also use a gaffa-tape (very strong duct tape) to keep the top from wrinkling. But that's only a temporary solution, because the duct tape loosens after a while, especially when you have wet and moisty weather. Not every car is garaged. Some are daily drivers - even in winter time.
Thanks and regards from germany
Markus
List of cars outside germany:
1. bmorgan - 05 SRT Roadster
2. DKAwildcat - 08 Roadster
3. Pizzaguy - 05 Roadster Ltd.
4. mickey5469 - 05 Roadster Ltd., 70k miles
5. Franc Rauscher
6. IBLUBYU - 05 SRT Roadster, 22k miles
7. autumnmass - 07 Roadster, 12k miles
8. tri_zombie - 05 SRT Roadster
9. Oledoc2u - 05 SRT Roadster
Please feel free to add yourself to the list if your Roadster is also affected.
At the moment we have 22 Roadster owners reporting the problem in germany.
Until now we don't have a soft top that was teared, or had a leakeage.
But in some cases the fabric is really really weak.
So it seems that it's only a matter of time until you'll some get a real problem.
Normally a soft top should last for more than 10 years without any special care.
Some of our Roadster users also use a gaffa-tape (very strong duct tape) to keep the top from wrinkling. But that's only a temporary solution, because the duct tape loosens after a while, especially when you have wet and moisty weather. Not every car is garaged. Some are daily drivers - even in winter time.
Thanks and regards from germany
Markus
List of cars outside germany:
1. bmorgan - 05 SRT Roadster
2. DKAwildcat - 08 Roadster
3. Pizzaguy - 05 Roadster Ltd.
4. mickey5469 - 05 Roadster Ltd., 70k miles
5. Franc Rauscher
6. IBLUBYU - 05 SRT Roadster, 22k miles
7. autumnmass - 07 Roadster, 12k miles
8. tri_zombie - 05 SRT Roadster
9. Oledoc2u - 05 SRT Roadster
Re: XF Roadster - soft top fabric problem caused by constructional fault
I've had this same problem. 2008 Roadster.
List of cars outside germany:
1. bmorgan - 05 SRT Roadster
2. DKAwildcat - 08 Roadster
3. Pizzaguy - 05 Roadster Ltd.
4. mickey5469 - 05 Roadster Ltd., 70k miles
5. Franc Rauscher
6. IBLUBYU - 05 SRT Roadster, 22k miles
7. autumnmass - 07 Roadster, 12k miles
8. tri_zombie - 05 SRT Roadster
9. Oledoc2u - 05 SRT Roadster
10) Steven 4190 - 08 Roadster 12k Miles
List of cars outside germany:
1. bmorgan - 05 SRT Roadster
2. DKAwildcat - 08 Roadster
3. Pizzaguy - 05 Roadster Ltd.
4. mickey5469 - 05 Roadster Ltd., 70k miles
5. Franc Rauscher
6. IBLUBYU - 05 SRT Roadster, 22k miles
7. autumnmass - 07 Roadster, 12k miles
8. tri_zombie - 05 SRT Roadster
9. Oledoc2u - 05 SRT Roadster
10) Steven 4190 - 08 Roadster 12k Miles
Re: XF Roadster - soft top fabric problem caused by constructional fault
List of cars outside germany:
1. bmorgan - 05 SRT Roadster
2. DKAwildcat - 08 Roadster
3. Pizzaguy - 05 Roadster Ltd.
4. mickey5469 - 05 Roadster Ltd., 70k miles
5. Franc Rauscher
6. IBLUBYU - 05 SRT Roadster, 22k miles
7. autumnmass - 07 Roadster, 12k miles
8. tri_zombie - 05 SRT Roadster
9. Oledoc2u - 05 SRT Roadster
10) Steven 4190 - 08 Roadster 12k Miles
110 itsky - 06 Roadster - 46000 miles
1. bmorgan - 05 SRT Roadster
2. DKAwildcat - 08 Roadster
3. Pizzaguy - 05 Roadster Ltd.
4. mickey5469 - 05 Roadster Ltd., 70k miles
5. Franc Rauscher
6. IBLUBYU - 05 SRT Roadster, 22k miles
7. autumnmass - 07 Roadster, 12k miles
8. tri_zombie - 05 SRT Roadster
9. Oledoc2u - 05 SRT Roadster
10) Steven 4190 - 08 Roadster 12k Miles
110 itsky - 06 Roadster - 46000 miles
Re: XF Roadster - soft top fabric problem caused by constructional fault
My Xfire roadster has a couple of spot or creases that the fabric looks to be thinned out, but no leaks or holes. I guess it would be good to add my Xfire to the list.
Mine has 8300 miles on it, 2006 LTD Roadster, 6 speed, N/A. 6X062735.
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Mine has 8300 miles on it, 2006 LTD Roadster, 6 speed, N/A. 6X062735.
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