First time at the track tonight...
Took the car to the track tonight.
Car has the following:
K&N Drop in Filters
Sprint Booster
Continental All Season Tires (I think the Michelins would've helped a LOT)
Conditions:
90* dropping down to 87* or so
85%+ humidity - enough to allow the windows to fog up by the end of the 1/4 mile, and it was getting foggy outside, car getting almost wet, etc...
Times:
Best time was a 13.2 @108 - only got it once, did it launching in 1st with traction control turned OFF - it was my third to last run, and tried it two more times to get a 13.6 and a 13.5. Other than this one run, I never got over 104 mph trap speed for whatever reason. I really feel like I left a LOT on the line with the 60 fts.
I must've ran a 13.7 @ 103 7 or 8 times - would definitely dial it in at that if I was bracket racing. Put it in 'D', hold the rpms at 1K, release the brake and mash the gas - 13.7x @103.7 every time!
Notable Competitors: (good to gauge track conditions)
350Z - exhaust, intake, chip - 14.8 best time
5.0 Mustang Coupe - exhaust, cold air, gears - 14.7
01 Mustang GT - 5spd - exhaust at least, not sure what else - 14.8
06 Mustang GT - 5spd - exhaust at least, not sure what else - 15.0
Ram Air Trans Am - ran him once heads up, and it was my 2nd best run at 13.5, got him by a .1. He had full headers back exhaust, drag radials, and lids. Killed him off the tree and would walk away each time he shifted...he ran a few 12.9s earlier in the night and said his car dropped more than 2 tenths when the fog rolled in with the same good launches as the 12.9's came on.
240Z - turbocharged (T28?) - 14.7
240Z - 100mm turbo 8.4 @ 165 mph
C5 ZO6 - seemed mostly stock - ran a few 13.0's and 12.99, ran a 13.4 against me when I ran a 13.5, close!
Timeslip:

It was fun...
SQ
Car has the following:
K&N Drop in Filters
Sprint Booster
Continental All Season Tires (I think the Michelins would've helped a LOT)
Conditions:
90* dropping down to 87* or so
85%+ humidity - enough to allow the windows to fog up by the end of the 1/4 mile, and it was getting foggy outside, car getting almost wet, etc...
Times:
Best time was a 13.2 @108 - only got it once, did it launching in 1st with traction control turned OFF - it was my third to last run, and tried it two more times to get a 13.6 and a 13.5. Other than this one run, I never got over 104 mph trap speed for whatever reason. I really feel like I left a LOT on the line with the 60 fts.
I must've ran a 13.7 @ 103 7 or 8 times - would definitely dial it in at that if I was bracket racing. Put it in 'D', hold the rpms at 1K, release the brake and mash the gas - 13.7x @103.7 every time!
Notable Competitors: (good to gauge track conditions)
350Z - exhaust, intake, chip - 14.8 best time
5.0 Mustang Coupe - exhaust, cold air, gears - 14.7
01 Mustang GT - 5spd - exhaust at least, not sure what else - 14.8
06 Mustang GT - 5spd - exhaust at least, not sure what else - 15.0
Ram Air Trans Am - ran him once heads up, and it was my 2nd best run at 13.5, got him by a .1. He had full headers back exhaust, drag radials, and lids. Killed him off the tree and would walk away each time he shifted...he ran a few 12.9s earlier in the night and said his car dropped more than 2 tenths when the fog rolled in with the same good launches as the 12.9's came on.
240Z - turbocharged (T28?) - 14.7
240Z - 100mm turbo 8.4 @ 165 mph
C5 ZO6 - seemed mostly stock - ran a few 13.0's and 12.99, ran a 13.4 against me when I ran a 13.5, close!
Timeslip:

It was fun...
SQ
Chi-town,
What intake did you purchase?
What kind of weather are you expecting this weekend?
We are supposed to dip into the 50's next week at night, but I'm not sure if it will be dry air or not.
All day yesterday was dry, and as soon as I got to the track the SE wind kicked up and started bringing the humid air off the gulf...bummer.
I will be swapping the K&N's for the stockers next time, see if they make a difference - and would also like to try it WITHOUT the sprint booster.
I was surprised how much feathering was required to keep this thing from just lighting up the rear tires. It seems to hook much better on the street (which I thought would be the opposite).
I didn't do any burn-out either, just a quick spin to clean the tires.
SQ
What intake did you purchase?
What kind of weather are you expecting this weekend?
We are supposed to dip into the 50's next week at night, but I'm not sure if it will be dry air or not.
All day yesterday was dry, and as soon as I got to the track the SE wind kicked up and started bringing the humid air off the gulf...bummer.
I will be swapping the K&N's for the stockers next time, see if they make a difference - and would also like to try it WITHOUT the sprint booster.
I was surprised how much feathering was required to keep this thing from just lighting up the rear tires. It seems to hook much better on the street (which I thought would be the opposite).
I didn't do any burn-out either, just a quick spin to clean the tires.
SQ
Looks like your track experience was just about the same as mine 2 most recent ones. I can't help but think the car has more in it. You can see by my signature what my best time was. I am running the Michelin PS2, so don't give them too much credit. The two fastest stock times that I know of were both put down with the Conti All Seasons. I would like to know how your car just decided to through down a 108 Trap for no apparent reason. I've never done that. EVERY run I've made has been between 103 and 105. My last 2 times out the weather was just as bad as you experienced. HOT AS HELL and HUMID as a swap. I truly believe the car can put down a 13.0 in good dry cool air. Too bad the tracks around here close the end of October. I was planning on having that good air my last time out, but it was still 88 degrees on October 7th. The average temp for this time of year is only about 68-70. So yeah, we have a drought and summer won't go away. I'm used to turning the heat on by Halloween and the AC is till running, BAH! Hopefully I'll get lucky and get one more chance to run in cool weather...
Originally Posted by ShawnQ
Chi-town,
What intake did you purchase?
What kind of weather are you expecting this weekend?
We are supposed to dip into the 50's next week at night, but I'm not sure if it will be dry air or not.
All day yesterday was dry, and as soon as I got to the track the SE wind kicked up and started bringing the humid air off the gulf...bummer.
I will be swapping the K&N's for the stockers next time, see if they make a difference - and would also like to try it WITHOUT the sprint booster.
I was surprised how much feathering was required to keep this thing from just lighting up the rear tires. It seems to hook much better on the street (which I thought would be the opposite).
I didn't do any burn-out either, just a quick spin to clean the tires.
SQ
What intake did you purchase?
What kind of weather are you expecting this weekend?
We are supposed to dip into the 50's next week at night, but I'm not sure if it will be dry air or not.
All day yesterday was dry, and as soon as I got to the track the SE wind kicked up and started bringing the humid air off the gulf...bummer.
I will be swapping the K&N's for the stockers next time, see if they make a difference - and would also like to try it WITHOUT the sprint booster.
I was surprised how much feathering was required to keep this thing from just lighting up the rear tires. It seems to hook much better on the street (which I thought would be the opposite).
I didn't do any burn-out either, just a quick spin to clean the tires.
SQ
NeverEnough,
I too was wondering what I did differently to get a higher trap speed.
One thing I noticed is that it seems the car shifts to 2nd (on its own) almost immediately and continues to spin if you aren't really light on the pedal.
The time I ran the 108, the car stayed in first (I feathered better I guess?)...then hit second and didn't spin. This is reflected in my 1/8 mile times, but my 60 ft is still bad due to 1st gear spin. BUT, the car didn't spin so much in 1st that it shifted to 2nd immediately...maybe that's the difference?
Chi-Town, keep us posted!
Are you all doing burnouts? Or just a quick blip to clean the tires?
SQ
I too was wondering what I did differently to get a higher trap speed.
One thing I noticed is that it seems the car shifts to 2nd (on its own) almost immediately and continues to spin if you aren't really light on the pedal.
The time I ran the 108, the car stayed in first (I feathered better I guess?)...then hit second and didn't spin. This is reflected in my 1/8 mile times, but my 60 ft is still bad due to 1st gear spin. BUT, the car didn't spin so much in 1st that it shifted to 2nd immediately...maybe that's the difference?
Chi-Town, keep us posted!
Are you all doing burnouts? Or just a quick blip to clean the tires?
SQ
Originally Posted by Chi-Town SRT/6
Well, i'm not really sure I should let the car outta the bag but I am going to have my needswings intake tomorrow morning. I begged Rob for it before this trackday on saturday and he kindly obliged. I have a VERY good feeling I could hit high 12's stock so this intake should be a nice addition. It is supposed to be in the 50's-60's early morning on saturday so that should make it very interesting in the srt/6.
WTF!?! EDITED FOR CONTENT THAT MAY BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR SOME VIEWERS...
Last edited by NeverEnough; Oct 18, 2007 at 12:25 PM.
Originally Posted by NeverEnough
ummm, you got a Needswings intake???
WTF!?!
Rob's in trouble... If he's gonna be like that, maybe I should let his "other" secrets out of the bag... Double CROSSED again it would seem... I guess I should stop being the "nice" guy.
WTF!?!
Originally Posted by Chi-Town SRT/6
Just to be fair I am getting one of the prototype ones and not the powdercoated model. I really hope I did not cause any drama.
Last edited by NeverEnough; Oct 18, 2007 at 12:26 PM.
Originally Posted by NeverEnough
bah, I told him a month ago I would powdercoat mine myself... if I could get it faster. Hell, I would have probably just polished it and called it a day.
Originally Posted by ShawnQ
NeverEnough,
I too was wondering what I did differently to get a higher trap speed.
One thing I noticed is that it seems the car shifts to 2nd (on its own) almost immediately and continues to spin if you aren't really light on the pedal.
The time I ran the 108, the car stayed in first (I feathered better I guess?)...then hit second and didn't spin. This is reflected in my 1/8 mile times, but my 60 ft is still bad due to 1st gear spin. BUT, the car didn't spin so much in 1st that it shifted to 2nd immediately...maybe that's the difference?
Chi-Town, keep us posted!
Are you all doing burnouts? Or just a quick blip to clean the tires?
SQ
I too was wondering what I did differently to get a higher trap speed.
One thing I noticed is that it seems the car shifts to 2nd (on its own) almost immediately and continues to spin if you aren't really light on the pedal.
The time I ran the 108, the car stayed in first (I feathered better I guess?)...then hit second and didn't spin. This is reflected in my 1/8 mile times, but my 60 ft is still bad due to 1st gear spin. BUT, the car didn't spin so much in 1st that it shifted to 2nd immediately...maybe that's the difference?
Chi-Town, keep us posted!
Are you all doing burnouts? Or just a quick blip to clean the tires?
SQ
I find the best "launch" is achieved by putting it in 1st, holding the brake pedal with the left foot (to stop you "creeping") and as you hit the pedal, let go of the brake. This needs to be a small sharp application of the throttle (to limit wheel spin) and when that is controlled plant the throttle into the carpet quickly. In comparison to before, it feels like I never used to get full throttle" it is so different, but so much easier to wheel spin until you get the balance right. This is with Traction control "off" and the gearbox on the "S" setting.
I also tried holding the car with the brake and holding 1,000 RPM with the gas pedal, but this was not as good and made the wheel spin more unpredictable. The above method I have found to be more easily repeatable too after practice. You really only need apply a quick 1 - 1.5 inches on the gas pedal, if you get no wheel spin, floor it...if you get a little wheel spin, let it calm and then floor it...if you get no wheel spin, try a tiny bit more gas next time. If you get loads of wheel spin, keep practicing by using a little less gas initially. Also, the overlap of gas applied and letting go of the brake it almost "non-existent" (if you have a sprint booster) it should be almost exactly at the same time.
Using this method will give you a much stronger pull in 1st and a crisp change to 2nd gear at 6,000 RPM (and not before).
Let me know who you get on with this method.
Si
I am not sure the Michelin PS2's are that great for traction. I put a set of them on my '04 cobra, and found them to have much less traction than the Goodyear Eagle F1's that came on the car stock. They were a lot quieter at lower speeds, but much louder at higher speeds than the stock goodyears, also. I can't say how the Continental all seasons compare to either the PS2's or the Eagle F1's, but I know I was very disappointed with the traction of the PS2's after seeing the traction ratings on Tirerack and expecting great things.
I'd like to see what our cars would run with some drag radials. Get some 18x10 ASA wheels and slap some 295/35 BFG's, or even better 305/35 Mickey Thompson, and I think your traction problems will be solved. Not to mention some bad *** 60 ft times and overall ET. Anyone have about a G to blow so we can find out?
I was actually considering getting some 18 inch rims (cheapest possible that would fit) and getting some drag radials put on. Firstly, the way the car is geared, its just hitting 4th gear through the finish line. Not good for 1/4 mile racing. Secondly, depending on the radius of the tire, the smaller diameter rim would help with the gearing and make the car a bit faster although I do have some doubts about that so... I'm just wondering what 18 inch rims and drag radials would fit on this thing! Haha.
Any ideas how the rear diff on these cars will withstand DR's and hard launches?
While looking at and contemplating a resonator removal, I noticed how small the pumpkin is. I'm not sure how the axles are, either.
Last thing I want to do is snap a half shaft on the line, or break the R&P.
Just curious what these things can handle.
SQ
While looking at and contemplating a resonator removal, I noticed how small the pumpkin is. I'm not sure how the axles are, either.
Last thing I want to do is snap a half shaft on the line, or break the R&P.
Just curious what these things can handle.
SQ



