BC,

Thanks for the info - and good luck on Sat. Hope you kick a little booty with your ride.

 

Very interesting stuff! Great thread and Cool Project. Keep us posted!!

 

I've done some thinking on the subject, and I can see where you could get more power. On turbo cars, the more lean they are run the more power they make. It's opposite of what you are told all your life but it's true.

 

Isn't it "the less timing you retard the more power you make"?

Isn't lean dangerous for turbos?

 

No timing = HP and yes too lean is a bad thing. With E85 you can run more timing thus more power. You can also turn up the boost because of the octane of 105. It would be best if I could dyno tune the car.

 

Lean is dangerous for any car............but the kind of lean he's refering to is a "safe" lean. Most turbo/boosted cars run an AFR of 10:1=11:1(some even richer) from the factory to guarantee that they will run safely. If you take that and lean it out to 12.0-12.8(max) you will run more effiiciently and make more power.

 

Just research stoichiometric ratio.

Timing does not = HP. Advanced timing allows more fuel to be introduced to the cylinders and still accomplish a complete burn. If the mixture is too rich (too much fuel) then the combustion takes longer. Too lean of a mixture causes the fuel to ignite under pressure (dieseling). There's a fine balance between a condition called "lean-roll" which is ideal, and being lean to the point of detonation.


I would think that people with enough mental power to make observations and commentary on people they know nothing about should at least be able to wrap their mind around this simple concept.

 

I don't know, looks Greek to me.

 

Did I hurt your feelings?

 

Not at all......I just have little respect for members of law enforcement with your apparent attitude.

Before you get your panties in a bunch, 3 of my family members are cops, none of them are exactly on the short list of prospective MENSA members either.

 

Take your own advise, as you said don't make statements about people you know nothing about. You can poke fun at a young kid for making a silly post but can't take a very small poke in return. I have over 20 proud years of serving my community in law enforcement. So please don't confuse this forum with my ability to perform my duty.

Now back to the topic.

 

Ya Ya.....whatever. It's called a personal observation, I'm sure most members of this site are far from "confused" by my comment.

If you look at the thread, you'll see that I was not making fun of any kid, simply commenting on a thread that went nowhere, other than downhill with comments that were in no way related to the topic.

By the way......if you're going to comment on another's mental capacity, or implied lack thereof...please know that the word is "adviCe".

 

I don't know crap about E85 fuel, so I've been staying out of this thread, just following a little. But I do have one question, does the exhaust smell like CORN . Eric, I had just assumed that you had a larger crank pulley with the #'s you have posted for 1/4 mile times. I would have never believed an SRT6 would have ran those kind of #'s with just an ECU tune. What else have you got hiding under that hood?

 

It's called a typeo, I have made many, and will make many more. You apparently have issues that are best released through a non confrontational means( I.E. computer or phone).

I never said any other member of this site was confused about anything, only telling you that you are confused. But in looking through a lot of your posts you tend to be judgmental and sarcastic. Me on the other hand, this will be my second time that I have brought it down a level on this forum. I guess you sucked me in. You must be indeed more mental, I mean smarter.

 

Good morning Steve, I thought you knew that I did not have a pulley. I would like to get one soon, but its not going to happen before the 12th. So you should beat up on me with your Renntech car. Thats ok, it will still be good to meet up with you. I just hope the weather gets better. I have been praying, just like you asked.

Oh and my car does smell a little different, kind of reminds me of the movies.

 

I have never in my life seen a enthusiast forum where members attack other members for trying something new to improve their cars performance. Bikecop is one of the very few members here that is not arrogant, he is very helpful and has run some of the fastest times on the site with the fewest mods. I think what he has done is very impressive and I wish him the best with his new setup. Why people are attacking him for his creativity and accomplishments is beyond me.

Regardless, I hope he continues to post up his track times and his future mods so I can learn from them.

 

With the #'s you are running, I would about bet it would be a side by side race. But the only thing I have to gauge 1/4 times is my little G-tech, I know they are suppost to be pretty accurate. You are posting a 12.4 and my G-tech tells me I'm doing a 12.3, I hope my G-tech is lieing to me and on a track I'll run a 12.1 or better. My 12.3's were on street tire's with the TC on, I'll have the Hoosier DR's on at the track. The best 60' times I've got on it were 2.0, I'm hoping to shave at least 0.2 off the 60' with the Hoosiers.
On a side note, I PM'ed Wayne this morning to ask him how soon he would know if it was cancelled because of weather. Mainly because I would like to drive up to at least Lafayette Friday afternoon to spend the night. If I make the full 4 hour drive Saturday morning, I'll be ready for a nap by the time I get there. It's hell getting old .

 

Interesting.....Maybe you should go back and review the thread that this started on.

You state that I was poking fun of a kid. Nothing could be further from the truth. Out of a bunch of posts by other members who were having a little fun with the guy, I made no such comments. I stated "I felt stupid for coming back" after I read posts involving racial slurs, and an in depth discussion of the proper way to make racial comments about people of mexican descent.

Out of all the posters there, you still felt the need to make commentary on my mental ability. I took this as it was, and made a similar type of commentary on this thread, after providing information relevant to this thread involving timing, and stoichiometric ratio.

You pose to me that I can poke fun of someone else, yet cannot take it back. I suggest that you might take the words that you said, and apply them to your life. A little poke here and there and you should expect it in return.

I would invite evidence of my being judgemental and sarcastic without provocation.

I eagerly await your response.

 

I have had my fair share of back and for that reason I usually just bite my tounge when other members do it because at times I am no better. But this has been going on for some time now, Apkno you are a very respected member and bikecop you new but have alot of great insight on what memebers like myself have been looking to do with E85. On that note this thread is now cluttered with junk, if you really need to keep insulting eachother can we stick to pm's.

Anyway The stock srt6 injectors are good for something like 400 hp, With a pulley installed, intake, intake manifolds (hopefully when they are finished), and other none hp gaining options (spacers) wont the injectors be over their peak if they are allready putting out 30% more for the E85? I am new to this am intrested in it, I have a buddy with an EVO who did it and another with a CRX and they gains are crazy I want to jump on this band wagon regardless of what it's doing to our enviroment or how much it cost. Just want to be 100% safe about it before I void my warrenty and mess everything else up.

 

Sorry, everyone of the side step, I am done with that.

Ok, from what I understand the system that I am using is adjustable to increase the fuel up to 29% over stock. It comes set to automatically adjust the fuel up to 12% if using e85. It can be open up and turned up manually from 6 on the dial to 10. 6 is 12% and 10 is around 25-29 %. When I tested it at the track I left it at 6 or 12% more fuel.
It ran good, but the next time I am going to play around with to see if it improves. Inmotion is sending me out two new chips with a more aggressive timimg curve. I will data log them both to watch for any negitive readings.