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Originally Posted by Holycrap
135i's are bad ***. They run away at hwy speeds. Trap 120+ with ease.
they trap 103-107 stock, I dont know where you are getting this 120+ since they are a long away from that. 120+ stock trap speeds are reserved for high end sport cars (z06, zr1, 911 turbo) not a 135i, 1m etc
 
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they trap 103-107 stock, I dont know where you are getting this 120+ since they are a long away from that. 120+ stock trap speeds are reserved for high end sport cars (z06, zr1, 911 turbo) not a 135i, 1m etc
Sorry i forgot to add one word. Modded. Not long Long away at all. Just a few bolt ons and it will put most srt-6 to shame on the hwy.
 
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Sorry i forgot to add one word. Modded. Not long Long away at all. Just a few bolt ons and it will put most srt-6 to shame on the hwy.
The 135i makes for a nice sleeper, but the N54 is highly overrated. You need meth to make any real power.

As for the M3, don't make any major mistakes, like a smokey burnout when you take off, and you'll win easily. Next get a pulley and tune then come back when you beat a E92 M3.
 

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How did the race go? Chuk & I had an M3 chasing us down in our two XF's one night on the way back from a cruise in. I was whipping his butt due to superior driving technique thru some tight turns near our house in the NA. When we got to a straight away he decided to tangle with Chuk in the SRT. His 2 buddies in the car with him were egging him - in a very short distance the M3 driver realized that he overpaid for hp. Chuk said the buddies were busting M3 dude's chops at the next stop light hard core.

The SRT is a sleeper in its own way - most people don't know the difference between the NA & the SRT. Of course as soon as they hear that supercharger whine, a sinking feeling hits their stomach.
 
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The 135i makes for a nice sleeper, but the N54 is highly overrated. You need meth to make any real power.

As for the M3, don't make any major mistakes, like a smokey burnout when you take off, and you'll win easily. Next get a pulley and tune then come back when you beat a E92 M3.
The non meth ones run similar times to ours but almost always trap higher. Its true those guys are addicted to meth.I encountered one at the track and i was ahead by half a car will about 80 and then It was started to gain hard. 6 speeds > slow shifting 5 speed auto.
 
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Vaya con cuidado , posiblemente el motor 32AMG sea mas poderoso que el 3.2 6L del M3 , pero cuidado porque el bastidor del M3 le aseguro que es considerablemente mejor que el del Crossfire .


No le aconsejo hacer carreteras viradas si no quiere ver como el M3 le da una paliza.
 
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Vaya con cuidado , posiblemente el motor 32AMG sea mas poderoso que el 3.2 6L del M3 , pero cuidado porque el bastidor del M3 le aseguro que es considerablemente mejor que el del Crossfire .


No le aconsejo hacer carreteras viradas si no quiere ver como el M3 le da una paliza.
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Be careful, possibly the most powerful engine is 32AMG that 3.2 6L of M3, but be careful because the frame of the M3 I assure you that is considerably better than the Crossfire.


Roads do not advise tacking unless you want to see how the M3 gives a beating.
 
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The non meth ones run similar times to ours but almost always trap higher. Its true those guys are addicted to meth.I encountered one at the track and i was ahead by half a car will about 80 and then It was started to gain hard. 6 speeds > slow shifting 5 speed auto.
I don't put as much faith in trap times anymore. I run 12.7@ 110 with 306whp (my trap says I should be close to 350whp).

That's the thing about the N54, they need meth or major cooling upgrades if they're pushing more than about 380bhp. There's a reason Dinan will deny warranty coverage on their stage 3 tune which only brings you from about 350bhp to 398bhp.

The N54 is a capable motor, but so was the LT1 once you worked out the problems. From what I've seen it has major cooling and fuel issues that have to be rectified, and even then you need to upgrade the turbos if you plan on pushing more than 400whp, unless you want to run meth everywhere you go.

All in all the fastest no nitrous time for the 135i was set by ACR running 11.5@125. That's nothing to scoff at, but that was a motor where the only thing left stock was the bottom-end and it was on meth. You can achieve 11.5 in the SRT6 with far less.

One last thing, the 6-speed vs the auto, that's what the AMG Speedshift upgrade is for
 
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I don't put as much faith in trap times anymore. I run 12.7@ 110 with 306whp (my trap says I should be close to 350whp).

That's the thing about the N54, they need meth or major cooling upgrades if they're pushing more than about 380bhp. There's a reason Dinan will deny warranty coverage on their stage 3 tune which only brings you from about 350bhp to 398bhp.

The N54 is a capable motor, but so was the LT1 once you worked out the problems. From what I've seen it has major cooling and fuel issues that have to be rectified, and even then you need to upgrade the turbos if you plan on pushing more than 400whp, unless you want to run meth everywhere you go.

All in all the fastest no nitrous time for the 135i was set by ACR running 11.5@125. That's nothing to scoff at, but that was a motor where the only thing left stock was the bottom-end and it was on meth. You can achieve 11.5 in the SRT6 with far less.

One last thing, the 6-speed vs the auto, that's what the AMG Speedshift upgrade is for
Theres a local guy running 11.5's with meth and boltons. Theres absolutely no headwork needed to get these things deep in the 11's. Although my days of hwy and street racing are long gone. One could appreciate a fast hwy car. I rather trap 120 over 115 Anyday. Actually the fastest stock turbo 135i is 11.2. Boltons and meth. As much as i love the SRT-6. We cannot touch these cars mod for mod. Its only a matter of time before someone gets a 10 sec run with the stock turbos no nitrous


Article: BMS (Burger Motorsports) sets new quickest and fastest stock turbo N54 records in their JB4 powered 135i - 11.2 ET and 125 mph
 
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Was he racing a M3 or a 135? At the end of the day it's a good thing some of those 135's are so quick - you just don't want anyone to see you driving one. The just aren't good looking cars in my opinion & stand out in the BMW line up for all the wrong reasons. Ugly being number 1. I can't help laughing at how goofy looking they are - like a real car that someone chopped bits off of. I would never laugh at a M3 though - that's a serious car. Fast doesn't equal cool by the way. There is a SMART car with a Hayabusa motor in it that is stupid fast but at the end of the day it's still a SMART car.
 
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Theres a local guy running 11.5's with meth and boltons. Theres absolutely no headwork needed to get these things deep in the 11's. Although my days of hwy and street racing are long gone. One could appreciate a fast hwy car. I rather trap 120 over 115 Anyday. Actually the fastest stock turbo 135i is 11.2. Boltons and meth. As much as i love the SRT-6. We cannot touch these cars mod for mod. Its only a matter of time before someone gets a 10 sec run with the stock turbos no nitrous


Article: BMS (Burger Motorsports) sets new quickest and fastest stock turbo N54 records in their JB4 powered 135i - 11.2 ET and 125 mph
Ah, I forgot BMS took over, but that car is still not streetable (then again nor was the ACR car). It's around 500whp and running loads of meth. I really don't see how the 135i is a better car mod for mod when the SRT6 sees low-11s on less mods for less than what a Dinan stage 3 kit cost (while staying under warranty) and it doesn't need a crutch like meth to do it. You can slap a turbo on about anything with a bottle of meth to cool it and go fast.
 
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Originally Posted by Holycrap
Sorry i forgot to add one word. Modded. Not long Long away at all. Just a few bolt ons and it will put most srt-6 to shame on the hwy.
My reference for a long way away was in stock form. The n54 is a awesome engine, and yea with a few bolt ons and tune they aren't anything to sneeze at. But when it comes to larger modifications the N54 is one finicky motor. As someone else said in here the 135 is one ugly car, and still quite expensive when the better looking with the same motor 335i is available for a few thousand more.
 
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