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HDDP 10-14-2007 11:07 PM

SRT6 Engine Transplant
 
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Here's the only thing that I found interesting, so far, while transplanting the SRT6 engine into my track car...

alfdoc 10-14-2007 11:44 PM

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If you didn't already know, charge air coolers are common on turboed and supper charged engines. They cool the compressed air from the turbo or the supper charger before it enters the intake, which makes the engine produce more power. :cool:

ShawnQ 10-15-2007 07:28 AM

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I think he is likely referring to the manufacturer, Garrett, and Hecho En Mexico..?

I'm sure HDDP knew there was an intercooler on it...

SQ

MI1XFIRE 10-15-2007 08:26 AM

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I'm sure is referring to the Made in Mexico. :rolleyes:

Maxwell 10-15-2007 09:00 AM

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it even looks like it was made in Mexico, look at the funky welding, lol looks like it was done with a mig.

LantanaTX 10-15-2007 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HDDP
Here's the only thing that I found interesting, so far, while transplanting the SRT6 engine into my track car...

Are you swapping an SRT-6 engine into a n/a car?

Coyote 10-15-2007 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by HDDP
Here's the only thing that I found interesting, so far, while transplanting the SRT6 engine into my track car...

Hmmm, knew there were "other" parts in this car, but Mexico? Didn't
see that coming. Seems the SRT-6 is truly a diverse vehicle. So, why
do some of my more "progressive" friends give me crap about "all the
gas I burn". Isn't diversity itself a laudable goal? Oops... wrong forum
for that... sorry. :(

Coyote

malcb 10-15-2007 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Coyote
Hmmm, knew there were "other" parts in this car, but Mexico? Didn't
see that coming. Seems the SRT-6 is truly a diverse vehicle.

Coyote

As a European car that's not very suppressing.

American cars = mostly US parts, Japanese = mostly Japanese.

European makers take all sorts of bits from their group of companies and mix and match. Parts from Garrett and other worldwide manufactures (Eaton etc) often end up in European cars because the better (and cheaper) specialist parts are found in the North America.

Ford Europe have Ford, Land Rover, Volvo (also Jaguar & Aston Martin) to chose parts from.

VW have VW, Seat (Spanish), Skoda, (also Maybach & Lamborghini).

BMW started making cars by selling a licensed version of an Austin and did own Land Rover.

That said that I think the diesel engine in the Dodge Caliber over here if from Japan and the Diesel PT Cruiser has a MB diesel.

As to Garret manufacturing in Mexico - is a common trend world wide, make the product where the raw material is, particularly with things like aluminum, by doing it they can add value and make the most of the resource. The Chinese are catching on that making cheap items in China say an aluminum saucepan using manpower, materials and energy, is not in China's long term interest, far better make a more valuable item and get more income.

LantanaTX 10-15-2007 03:12 PM

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The engine in my Mini Cooper S was made in Brazil.

ShawnQ 10-15-2007 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LantanaTX
The engine in my Mini Cooper S was made in Brazil.

Yes, he is doing the swap into the race-prepped crossfire he has...

SQ

HDDP 10-15-2007 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ShawnQ
I think he is likely referring to the manufacturer, Garrett, and Hecho En Mexico..?

Correcto el mundo amigo. :D

I have this engine torn apart right now and it's quite interesting... One of the big HP problems I see is the charge air cooler "intercooler" is smack dab wedged in the middle of the V block (the hottest part of the engine) under the supercharger with 5/8" thin wall, un-insulated aluminum tube feeding re-circulated hot water from the engine coolant overflow tank. So, I'm having to do some re-engineering on the charge air cooler to increase the tube size to 3/4" insulated heat sink tube with a custom coolant tank and 3.5" x 6.5" x 18" heat exchanger from Bell Intercoolers and a 6.9 gpm Johnson marine pump. And also going to insulate the intercooler from the heat of the block when it's reinstalled.

ShawnQ 10-16-2007 06:35 AM

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HDDP,

Do you see any feasible way to move the heat exchanger out from between the 'V', and into cooler air?

I assume that if you plan to leave it there, then you've thought out all of the options, and decided on the most cost effective way to do it to provide best bang for buck.

I'm new to 'foreign' cars, but other than this one, the only other cars I know of that had their intercooler so close to the engine were the SVO Mustangs and T-Bird turbo coupes. Even those were 'off' of the 2.3L and actually stayed fairly cool.

SQ

x'ed 10-16-2007 01:09 PM

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man i can't wait to see this car when its finished.

HDDP 10-17-2007 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ShawnQ
HDDP,

Do you see any feasible way to move the heat exchanger out from between the 'V', and into cooler air?

I assume that if you plan to leave it there, then you've thought out all of the options, and decided on the most cost effective way to do it to provide best bang for buck.

I'm new to 'foreign' cars, but other than this one, the only other cars I know of that had their intercooler so close to the engine were the SVO Mustangs and T-Bird turbo coupes. Even those were 'off' of the 2.3L and actually stayed fairly cool.

SQ

I'll take some photos of the interconnect between the SC and the Charge Air Cooler, but I don't think there is a feasible way to remove it from the V... There are some ways to insulate the system and reduce the heat... I'll try to document this as I progress... But the coolant system is really stupid...

I have ordered a Bell heat exchanger that is 3.5"d X 6.5"h X 18"w that will fit in front of the OEM radiator without intruding on the airflow to the radiator. Also bored the ports of the charge air cooler from the OEM 5/8" to 3/4" and ordered custom heat sink tube from cain industries to plumb the SC cooling liquid from a custom aluminum cooling tank that will be pumped by a 6.9 gpm marine impeller pump...

HDDP 10-30-2007 04:09 PM

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Well, it's getting closer to install and nearly reassembled... I'm sure you'll notice a bit of difference in the appearance... Schrick cams installed, intakes ported & polished, Headers being built, intercooler system pats on the way...
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...9&d=1193774823
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...1&d=1193774823

ShawnQ 10-30-2007 04:14 PM

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Looking good man! Polishing is a PAIN.

Did you have a chance to look closely at the headers?

It appears that they are cast, with a sheet metal heat shield around it...is this true? Or are they true tubular design?

Keep us posted on the intercooler mods you make.

SQ

HDDP 10-30-2007 04:46 PM

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The manifolds are removed since this photo and will never see this engine again :p And yes, they seem to be sleeved with an outer shell...

HDDP 10-30-2007 04:50 PM

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And here are some photos ot the Charge Air Cooler...

HDDP 10-30-2007 05:05 PM

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And here's the SC after a little work... Still not finished though :(

ShawnQ 10-30-2007 05:19 PM

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Excellent pics again!

Did you modify the pulley, or just took a pic of it? I've never really looked too hard at my S/C as I'm worried that I'll start digging around and messing with it (and subsequently my warranty).

Keep us posted on your header design.

SQ


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