I'm not going to believe any numbers that people throw out there about power gains unless I see a dyno sheet.

The only way to know for sure if there is any power lost or gained is if it is tested and proved on a dyno.

 

I think someone has already posted the dyno sheet for the srt6 with the sl55 pipe, it might be in the SI ecu thread, since they where the ones who did the dyno runs.

 

You are right I love the intake and I'm not blasting it by any means but I was able to create something almost the same just not running it through the front of the radiator for about $200 including a $60 K&N filter on my n/a 3.2 engine. Granted the pics I posted were rough but once i had it heat coated primer black it looked just as good. I just cant justify spending $500 for the same tube I had, an emblem, a piece to extend through to behind the grille an elbow and a filter. I feel I could make that system for $300 maybe less if I bought an $80 3 inch intercooler kit off ebay and tig welded it up myself. I wish there was the best of both worlds not dropping $800 - $1,000 for a stock air box look ,not having to do any modifications besides the m113 boxes but also not spending $500 on something that isn't worth $500. I'm sure I'm going to catch hell for saying this and by no means do i hope this drives people contributing to the after market for these vehicles away but I am personally tired of the price gouging on ecu tunes and pulleys but I'm starting to categorize this intake along with them.

 

I make an intake, single 3" aluminum tube, filter located outside the engine bay, proven gains at the track, and only $220 shipped...

 

Can you post pictures?

 

Here you go.

 

It is because the ceramic coating helps keep more of the heat in the combustion chamber instead of disbursing itself throughout the heads and block - heat in the combustion chamber makes it more efficient. It's going to produce the same head regardless but keeping more of it in the combustion chamber and then getting it out before it travels through the heads and block is why the ceramic coating makes more power.


And it was EVOSPORT that did the test on all those expensive exhaust systems that never produced more than 7 RWHP I think on BMWs.

 

How about a hood scoop.

 

Wow people have been bumping up a lot of ancient threads lately.

 

can the n/a have the same setup as most srt6...intake wise.....like instead of the single intake,can it also have the double intake setup?and correct me if im wrong but doesnt covering the radiator with filters,isn't it restricting the air flow to the radiator???????

 

Search, search, search, good sir BUT
in answer to your questions:
Yes, yes, yes & yes!

1. & 2.) The CAI from Needwings looks nearly identical between models. Highly recommended for either.

3.) Double intakes are available out there but there is some discussion as to the benefits of dual vs. singular.

4.) Yup, the filter, stuck in front of the radiator as it will be, does restrict airflow. Unless you plan on taking it to the track every weekend I would hardly worry about it.

The gain in power AND the gain in mileage easily offsets any issues with engine cooling. If an overheated engine is your concern then you can either run with a cooler thermostat and/or check the forum for members who have modified the OEM grill.

 

any one seen this video? ive lost faith in cai's
sorry to add to this post, does anyone have any evidence to counter the video, or prove that the cai helps our cars performance ? it was more of a question post , not a bashing one

 

Nice Imfo ! i run K&N filters in the boxs and have a can tune I;m very happy with how the car feels , all for cost about 300.00 . + a Borla Ex that give a nice sound

 

will k and n filters with the stock piping improve power at all? enough to justify the filter price?

 

I watched this video a few months ago and in their experiments they didn't see a noticable difference.

You also have to consider where our air filters are, since they sit on top of the engine they collect a lot of heat. So by just moving the filters you can make a difference in the intake temps.

I had a Scion TC TRD edition before my xfire and my mileage went up after I installed a CAI. with the cruise set at 90mph and no AC in the winter at 60F I got 26mpg over 700 miles.

In the summer in Kansas we had a lot of days over 100F, I once again set the cruise at 90mph and had to run my AC full blast and I got 27.5mpg and drove a total of 400 miles.

These were my findings so I'll still believe that all things considered a CAI does more good than harm.

 

does that also mean an improvement in horsepower?or is it all in our heads?

 

Tuners know that 10 degree F drop is about 1% more horse power, Video shows that. Woody

Our supercharger output is about 400 degrees, we need to cool everything to make a gain.

 

It has been verified that NeedsWings single CAI has cut an NA automatic Crossfires 1/4 mile time by nearly 1/2 sec. with no other mods. (Ask Valkryderguy "Gary")
I don't know how much H.P. it takes to cut your times by a 1/2 sec. but I'm guessing it's at least 20 or more.

 

I use a custom 3"id dual intake system and have the filters in front of the radiator. I know it gave more hp per the dyno done this spring.......but it was achieved with some other mods so all in all was worth 55 or 60 hp over the stock tune, pulley and intake. I am working on moving the air intake to the back of the engine bay and customizing a cold air filter system similar to the cowl induction on the SS chevy's in the '70's for less travel distance and hopefully cooler air without going through the engine compartment as it does now. Still in the initial stages.

 

the efficiency of the system makes or breaks the gains, sticking the filter out front like they did on the video with the collapsable accordian tube made me cringe.

i agree, lmao about that video